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Old 03-22-2017, 04:00 AM   #76
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The Eagles select Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech. Pick made @ 7:00 AM EST
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With the 75th pick in the 2017 Orangemane NFL Mock Draft, the Cleveland Browns select: Tyus Bowser, DE, Houston

Could be a bit early for him, but I just like him as a prospect. The Browns are going to the 4-3 and I'm hoping he can turn into a pass rushing STUD. A little undersized, but I like the potential. I'm also a little thrown off today.

Bowser was looking for a huge senior season, coming off of a junior year where he started every game, making 50 tackles, 6.5 for loss, and 5.5 sacks. Unfortunately, a fight with one of his teammates resulted in his missing a month with a broken orbital bone. He overcame that setback to still garner second-team all-conference honors, leading the team with 8.5 sacks among his 12 tackles for loss in just eight games. Bowser played basketball and football over his first two years on campus. He played all games on the gridiron as a freshman (26 tackles, 5.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks) and sophomore (13 tackles, 3.5 TFL, three sacks), starting once each season.
STRENGTHS Explosive, quick-twitch athlete. Bursts out of his stance and challenges the edge. Good shoulder turn at the edge of rush and can dip and corner with very tight radius. Showed ability to play in variety of spots. Crisp change of direction ability. Took to his coaching and showed drastic improvement against the run this year. Played two years of college basketball at Houston which shows up with his footwork and fluidity when dropping into space. Has ability to pattern match tight ends. Light is starting to come on for him. Should have a big day at the combine.
WEAKNESSES Undersized on the edge. May not have the frame to carry much more weight. Can be engulfed by size. Needs to get better with hands at point of attack. Still has issues where he looks like a basketball guy learning football. Production as pass rusher doesn't match his explosive traits. Pass rush is built around athleticism and not enough around skill. Has to get even tougher and more skilled against the run.
SOURCES TELL US "His tape from last year and this year are way different. He's getting better. There will be some teams who miss him because their scouts are too lazy to keep an open mind that they will have written him off. He will be an early NFL starter. Watch." -- AFC Scouting Director
BOTTOM LINE Ascending pass-rush prospect who is still learning the fundamentals of his position thanks to a late commitment to the sport. Bowser's movement ability in space creates interesting possibilities for teams looking for a twitched-up toy to play with. Bowser lacks production, but his explosive characteristics off the edge will push him up the draft board and give him a chance to play well above where some scouts might project him.

Pick made at 8:11am CTZ
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With the 76th pick in the draft, the New Orleans Saints are happy to select Marcus Maye, S Florida. We feel Maye has the versatility to play either FS or SS. With the loss of Jairus Byrd, another FS is needed to compete with 2nd year man Vonn Bell. We also need someone who could rotate in at SS for Vaccaro. We often play a 4-2-5 so more defensive backs are always needed. We think Maye has the range, speed, instincts and cover ability to play FS as well as the size, aggressiveness and physicality for SS.

Pick made at 9:11 am PST. Ludo and AZ are OTC.
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1. Bradley Chubb, DE NC State
3A. Austin Corbett, G Nevada
3B. Marcell Ateman, WR Oklahoma State
4A. Parry Nickerson, CB Tulane
4B. Oren Burks, S/"Big Nickel"/OLB/Star Vanderbilt (MUG's No. 1 overall prospect)
5. Josh Adams, RB Notre Dame
6. Matthew Thomas, OLB Florida State
7A. Cole Madison, G Washington State
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With the 77th pick the AZ Cardinals Select

Ahkello Witherspoon, CB Colorado

Stats to know: 13 passes broken up in 2016 tied him at No. 1 in the nation.
What he does best:
  • Able to break up a lot of passes with his length and vertical leaping ability.
  • Times his jump well to break up deep passes consistently.
  • Can break up slants with his long arms that he initially lost inside on.
  • Prevents completions; his 31.8 completion percentage ranked No. 5 in the country.
  • Only surrendered 28 catches on 88 targets and one catch for every 17 coverage snaps.
  • Stays on top of routes and cuts the receivers off from the ball.
  • Stays patient in his back-pedal and lets his man declare his intentions.
  • Uses his quick feet and excellent balance to mirror wide receivers coming off the line.
  • Not as prone to biting on double moves as most young cornerbacks.
  • Communicates very well with his teammates in the secondary pre-snap.
  • Plays with a high football IQ and often knows what route combinations are coming.
Biggest concern:
  • A bit slow to re-direct if he guesses wrong which way the receiver is breaking.
  • Can struggle to break down and tackle shifty players in space, 8 missed tackles in 2016.
  • Needs to get a little physically stronger and can get outmuscled for jump balls.
  • Can struggle to stop and break back on the ball quickly on hitches and comebacks.
  • Doesn’t have the quick change of direction ability to play in the slot.
Player comparison: Richard Sherman, Seattle Seahawks
While it is a bit cliche to compare big corners to Richard Sherman, the comparison is fair in this case. The two players have similar physical profiles and skill-sets, and Witherspoon would thrive in the same role as Sherman, even though it’s unfair to expect the kind of career and production.
Bottom line: Witherspoon offers elite length at the cornerback position with his 6-foot-3 frame and 33-inch arms. He uses his long arms to disrupt the receivers route and stay on top of him. Even if he is trailing the wide receiver by a step on a vertical route his height, long arms and vertical leaping ability all combine to help him disrupt passes other cornerbacks might not be able to make a play on. His length also reduces the size of passing windows and allows him to still wrap his arm around and break up slants where he has already given up inside leverage. Opposing QBs only had a lowly 50.9 QB rating when throwing into WItherspoon’s coverage in 2016. Witherspoon’s quick feet and excellent balance combined with his length make him a formidable press corner. He isn’t winning with strength/physicality yet but when that element gets added to his game he can become an even better press corner. His range and length also make him effective in off coverage. Witherspoon is an outside press corner with impressive measurables, explosive athleticism and high football IQ. Witherspoon is a starting cornerback in the NFL who will likely get pushed down in the draft a bit due to the depth of the cornerback class this year.


Arizona is in DIRE need of a #2 opposite P2 and he will fit the bill. They reached last year on Brandin Williams (he sucks) and Bethel cannot play the spot either. Ahkello might not be great in run support, but he will make up for it by actually being able to cover guys. He will get picked on as he is opposite P2, but he will do a fine job.

Pick made at 9:19 AM PST
Shannahan is on the clock (probably for 12 hours at least)
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With the #78 pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Taylor Moton, OL, Western Michigan

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Old 03-22-2017, 10:51 AM   #81
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Cincinnati is pleased to get their #2 rated LT in this draft to pair with their #1 rated LT in this draft.

Cedric Ogbuehi is up for trade. A pair of cleats will suffice.


Wake Forest (2016): Playing LT. Skinny legs. Feet look heavy, doesn’t chop. Plays flatfooted too often, but does have some recovery quickness. Loafs way too much compared to other O-linemen, he actually looks lazy on the field. Lunges too much, when he misses, he falls on his face. Too slow on cut blocks. Beaten inside, guy just swatted his hands away. Looks pretty good in the running game usually moves people off the line. So far, has done a good job covering the arc, slides his feet well, but he oversets leaving the inside move vulnerable. Needs to work on his leverage manipulation better, bends at the waist too much, doesn’t have good balance. He’s not a fluid athlete by any stretch, but he’s not a lumbering oaf either, might have just enough athleticism to stick at LT. Needs a ton of work though on technique and probably conditioning, though he has played harder as the game has moved on. Very effective second level blocker, gets there fast enough and lands most of his blocks effectively. Good mirror on spin move. Overall, pretty good tape. Needs to work on technique, but athleticism looks good enough, and he was very good in the run game. Didn’t go against the top Wake Forest pass rushers, so might be a case of dominating crap competition.

Florida (2016): Playing LT. He’s gotten a lot better since Wake Forest. Feet are chopping now, looks like he’s on a gallon of Red Bull. Dominating through the first half in both run and pass. Even his cut blocking is much improved. He still bends a bit much at the waist, leans out with long arms, and keeps defender at bay in pass pro, but if the defenders jukes him, he’s falling over. Beaten inside, guy swatted his hands. He definitely oversets to protect against the arc rush. In the run game, he’s a boss. Does a good job moving people and is very effective at getting to the second level and landing key blocks. Handling Caleb Brantley every time they’ve gone against each other so far. Did get absolutely bull rushed on his ass by some random scrub though. His balance is just off. Overall, again, really good tape. Florida has mostly young guys on the D-line, so need to see him against an elite pass rusher, but he must have graded out really high in all areas for this game. FSU runs a pro style offense too, so that’s even more points for him.

Michigan (2016): Playing LT. Taco Charlton and Chris Wormley. Let’s get it on. Battling with Charlton early, Taco got him off balance outside and then beat him with a spin move inside for a pressure the next play. Great movement at goal line, moved the pile, RB ran right behind him for a TD. Taco tried the spin move again, this time Johnson was ready and mirrored it really well pushing him wide inside. Good second level blocking. Handling Wormley pretty easily, moving him out of the running lanes. Hunkering down against Wormley’s bull rush and giving up little ground. Good job picking up stunt. Really uprooting DT Matt Godin on the short yardage plays, Johnson is road grading. Good burst and positioning on second level blocks to seal lanes. Really working Wormley over in the run game. Pulled him around the RT to lead a sweep. Gave up a sack to Taco to end the half, but only because the QB was 15 yards deep for a hail mary. Pretty good battles going on between some good players. Having a dominating game run blocking in this one, sprung a huge run and another TD later. Had to work really hard, but held Charlton in check for the most part and shut Wormley down in 1v1s. Had a few ugly cut block attempts, needs some work. Overall, he can stick at LT in the NFL. Is a monster in the run game, and athletic enough with good reach to be effective in the pass game. Loses focus at times, whether its effort or knowing the snap count, but he’s young. I would feel comfortable taking him in the 1st Round.


Top rated player left on Cincinnati's board by a country mile. We have him ranked as the #21st overall player in this entire draft. Is young and still needs some development, but has everything you look for in a franchise left tackle. I thought his tape was eerily similar to Tayler Decker who went in the 1st round last year. Dominating, road grader at LT in the run game, he's a big reason for why Delvin Cook was so good. Has long vine arms and his footwork improved massively throughout the season. Handled Taco Charlton far better than Ryan Ramczyk did, and dominated Chris Wormley. Might need a year of development, though he could start Day 1 and learn on the job, really encouraged by how much better he got from early in the season against Wake Forest to late in the season against Michigan. Again, only 21 years old, one of the youngest players in this draft, he has elite potential. And is already borderline elite in the running game. Cincinnati can let him and Cam Robinson battle it out for LT, loser goes to RT. That will be two road grading, dominating run blocking OTs. Ogbuehi either gets traded or sticks as a swing OT. Fisher can compete at OG. What was a major weakness heading into this draft, the O-line, is now a major strength, especially for a power run oriented team wanting to return to smash mouth ball.

Indianapolis and Mediator are now on the clock!
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With the 80th pick in the 2017 Orange Mane Mock Draft (obtained from Indianapolis), the NY JETS select Pat Elflein, C, Ohio State.

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Elflein (pronounced ELF-line) naturally wanted to be a Buckeye after growing up in Pickerington, Ohio, a suburb of Columbus. The all-state pick (and four-year wrestler) was certainly coveted by Ohio State, as well. He didn't get on the field much in his first two years (redshirted in 2012, reserve with one start in 2013), but then met his promise starting as a sophomore. Elflein earned the first of his three first-team All-Big Ten seasons that year, starting three times at left guard and 12 on the right side. In 2015, he received second-team Associated Press All-American status while dominating at right guard in every game. The team needed him to move to center as a senior, and his play resulted in first-team All-American recognition from various media outlets.


Strengths Thick lower body. Team captain renown for his outrageous work ethic. Strong leadership characteristics both verbally and by example. Looks for work when uncovered. Smartly alters assignment based on flow of the defense. Always under control in his movements. Patient pull blocker who stalks his target rather than rushing the block. Plus play strength and wrestling background gives him a leg up in hand-to-hand combat against big dogs inside. Quick to roll hips into block after first contact. Drives feet through contact and uses strong hands to stick like glue to the block. Reliable and effective in down blocks. Finisher looking to make a statement at the end of the play. Has mental part down. Recognizes twisting defensive tackles and greets them with aggressiveness. Hand placement is excellent. Strikes with upward blows squarely into the strike zone as run blocker. Pass-pro punch is compact with some heat behind it. Can anchor against bull rush. Winning history on high-caliber team. Versatile; proficient and successful at both center and guard.

Weaknesses Not a ballerina with his feet. Footwork can be a little labored at times for the center position. Marginal twitch with short-area reaction time that is just average. A bit of a straight-line player in space. Struggles to come off initial block and body up against delayed, A-gap blitzers. Understands leverage but hip stiffness causes pad level to rise as play rolls along. Anticipates early bull rush and will drop an early anchor. Feet become heavy and limited, allowing athletic opponents to work around his edge and into backfield. Not always first with his hands. Gives away his chest to interior defenders with good hand quickness.

Sources Tell Us "You are getting a guy who will be great for your locker room and will get the rest of the offensive line on board. I think he could have the same fast impact on a team's running game that Zach Martin had in Dallas. Safe draft pick to me." -- NFC West scout

NFL Comparison Travis Frederick

Bottom Line Elflein is a smart, tireless worker with a winning background and experience at all three interior offensive line spots. While his feet are just average, his core strength and wrestling background could make him a favorite of teams looking for more strength at the center position. Elflein will have occasional issues in pass protection, but his strength as a run blocker and ability to play with excellent hands and plus body control should make him one of the first interior linemen to come off the draft board.


After 10 years, the Jets have parted ways with Nick Mangold. The offensive line needs an overhaul and it starts here.

The Washington Redskins are on the clock.

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Old 03-22-2017, 09:04 PM   #83
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With the 81st pick in the draft the Washington Redskins select Ryan Anderson OLB Alabama

Thick through shoulders and chest with good upper-body power. Exhibits professional approach on the field. Disciplined and married to his assignments. Stays clean. Comes into the league with NFL-caliber hand work. Ready hands at point of attack with a willingness to stick and move to avoid being swallowed by size. Sets a sturdy edge and makes a point to physically challenge tight ends early in the game. Will "dead arm" inside shoulder to alter blocker's balance and sneak around the outside hand. Relentless charge as a pass rusher and gets home thanks to his effort. Leverages runners to the sideline and rarely gives up a cut-back lane. Tackle finisher who is always hustling. Plays teammate ball over hero ball. Has experience at outside linebacker in both 3-4 and 4-3. Forced five fumbles over last two seasons.

Pick made at 10:04pm MST
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The Denver Broncos select:

Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Ohio St.

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2015: 119 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 4tfl
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With the 83rd overall selection, Houston Texans select TE Adam Shaheen of Ashland University.

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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select:

TANOH KPASSAGNON, DE, Villanova, 6'-7", 290 lbs


Villanova has not produced an NFL prospect as exciting as Tanoh Kpassagnon since the Philadelphia Eagles selected Brian Westbrook 91st overall back in 2002. Kpassagnon, whose full name is pronounced tawn-o pass-N-yo, likely will not have to wait that long.
NFL teams are notorious for falling in love with unique athletes and Kpassagnon certainly is that, maintaining track star acceleration despite packing on nearly 70 pounds of muscle over a college career that culminated with his winning the Colonial Athletic Association's Defensive Player of the Year and an invitation to the prestigious Senior Bowl.

It took time for Kpassagnon to grow into his frame and learn the subtleties of the position, which is why he redshirted in 2012 and recorded just 15 tackles in 11 games a year later. He was limited by injury as a sophomore but flashed playmaking ability, with five of his 12 tackles on the year coming behind the line of scrimmage, including 3.5 for sacks. Healthy as a junior, Kpassagnon earned First Team All-CAA honors with 33 total tackles (21 solo), a team-high 9.5 tackles for loss, a team-best 6.5 sacks, two blocked kicks, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and one interception while starting all 11 games. That just hinted at the success coming in 2016 when he registered career-highs in virtually every category, including tackles (45), tackles for loss (21.5) and sacks (11), as well as another two forced fumbles and a blocked kick.

Sure, Kpassagnon's production was inflated by inferior competition, but scouts are drooling over his blend of length, burst and power. With the Villanova coaches raving about Kpassagnon's commitment to maximizing his potential, he is a lottery ticket that could pay off big.


STRENGTHS: Blessed with a remarkable combination of size and explosiveness that simply screams NFL. Possesses an imposing frame with broad shoulders, long arms and a sculpted physique that testifies to his commitment to the weight room. Fires off the ball, routinely blowing past offensive tackles with his initial burst to the outside. Complements his speed rush with an effective counter back to the inside off of a strong jab step. Strong hands to rip through the reach of tackles, slapping them away. Good flexibility and core strength to fight through contact on his way to the backfield, including through double-teams. Prototypical wingspan for the position, using his long arms to reach out to knock the ball free from quarterbacks, disrupt passing lanes, block kicks and drag down ball-carriers while still engaged with would-be blockers. Voted a team captain and is highly respected by the Villanova coaching staff and teammates for his commitment towards maximizing his potential on and off the field. Signed with Villanova in part due to its academics. A three-time member of the CAA All-academic team with one degree earned last May in finance and another on the way in accounting. Appears to be just scratching the surface of his potential.

WEAKNESSES: Undeniably a project and one whose success has come against inferior competition. Almost too quick for his own good, too often blindly rushing upfield only to allow ball-carriers to escape past him on draws and screens. Attempts to spin away from double-teams, losing sight of the ball and effectively taking himself out of the play. Possesses an explosive burst and accelerates smoothly but tires quickly and does not always pursue laterally or downfield with the reckless abandon scouts would prefer... Struggled with a heavily wrapped thumb injury in the final game of his career for Villanova, a 10-7 loss to South Dakota State - an injury that obvious will require a close look from medical personnel at the Combine.

IN OUR VIEW: Simply put, freakish athletes like Kpassagnon don't last long on draft day, especially those with the size to play virtually any role in the front seven. Pair him with a creative defensive coordinator and Kpassagnon could join Westbrook as a rare difference-maker in the NFL out of Villanova.

COMPARES TO: Jason Pierre-Paul: Comparing Kpassagnon to Pierre-Paul, a two-time Pro Bowler, might seem like hyperbole but he too was quite raw as a one-year starter out of South Florida back in 2010. Kpassagnon has a long ways to go before warranting this comparison but few - even in the NFL - possess his combination of length and explosiveness.

Pick made at 4:40 EST

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With the 85th selection in the OM Mock Draft, the Detroit Lions select Larry Ogunjobi, DT, Charlotte. Write-up to come soon....

The Minnesota Vikings and NFLBRONCO are now on the clock -- twice!
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With the 86th pick in the 2017 NFL draft the Minn Vikings select:

David Sharpe OT Florida

with the 87th pick Minn selects

isaac Asiata G Utah

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Old 03-23-2017, 08:11 AM   #90
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With the 88th overall selection in the 2017 NFL Draft,


Taylor Moton and Antonio Garcia, I made you my b****es!

Making the selection for Mediator who is busy at one of his notorious meetings. He texted me saying he was really messed up, couldn't even see straight, and needed me to post this selection for him. I'm sure he'll do a write up later.

The NY Jets and Old Dude are on the Clock!
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With the 90th pick in the mock draft, the NY Jets select ArDarius Stewart, WR, Alabama.



Alabama's passing offense ranked 87th in the country in 2016 with only 210.3 yards per contest, but that's no reflection on Stewart's talent. He did what he could to help a freshman quarterback in Jalen Hurts, catching 54 passes for 864 yards and eight scores and rushing for 68 yards on eight carries. He was a first-team All-SEC pick despite missing three games, two to a leg injury and a third via suspension for "violating behavior rules" per head coach Nick Saban. Stewart also had an important pass play in the national championship game to keep the Tide alive in the fourth quarter. He started every game in the team's title run the previous year, making 63 grabs for 700 yards and four scores. As a redshirt freshman in 2014, Stewart was a two-game starter (12-149 receiving). After being graded as a potential second-round pick by the NFL Draft Advisory Committee, Stewart decided to declare for the draft to take care of his two children and the rest of his family.

Rationale: Jets receiving corps depleted after releasing Brandon Marshall.

The Carolina Panthers are on the Clock.

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With their 1st 3rd Round Pick, 91st Overall, the Carolina Panthers select :

Camerson Sutton - CB/Nickel/Safety/Do it all DB/Punt Returner from Tennessee



Does not fear contact at all. Throws his body into plays as a tackler and isn’t shy about using his hands violently with the receiver in press coverage.

Impressive acceleration. Lends well both to his ability to explode into the backfield on tackles for loss and recovering if he’s initially beat by the wide receiver downfield.

Shows fluidity in his hips as he can flip them back and forth when running forward or backward. Demonstrates his solid agility in coverage.

Very quick reaction skills. The moment he sees where the ball is going he fires out of his stance towards it in order to limit extra yardage.

Huge potential as a blitzer off the edge. Sudden quickness, acceleration and speed will make him an excellent option for those exotic packages.

Maintains his responsibility setting the edge on outside runs, forcing plays back inside where the help should be waiting. Doesn’t try to do too much.

Has experience and some success as a punt returner. He scored three touchdowns between 2014 and 2015. Proves both his athleticism and speed.


Size is going to be talked about. Being 5’11” isn’t a killer these days but it will show up as an issue from time to time against bigger receivers and tight ends.

Aggressiveness can work against him at times, leading some hard bites on double moves. Receivers have often beaten him cleanly in this fashion.

Lacks the feel for playing off coverage. Can often be a split second late reaction to which route the receiver will run, allowing for an easy catch or big play.

Ball skills seemed to regress from the early part of his career to the later part. Inconsistent at turning to find the football. Will lead to trouble with penalties in NFL.

Missed most of 2016 with a bad ankle injury. Not the best type for a cornerback to suffer and leads to speculation of whether his smaller body can handle NFL physicality.

Pro Comparison: Malcolm Butler

Another shorter cornerback who plays like he’s so much bigger. Butler was a surprise in 2014 but he was always an athletic, physical and determined corner who played sticky coverage. His trademark ability? Reading where the football is going and exploding to the point right as it arrives. Sutton has many of those same exact qualities. Not to mention similar physical dimensions.

Projection: 2nd-3rd round

If Sutton had been able to stay healthy in 2016, there is a strong possibility he’d have been considered for the 1st round. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case. Combined with a strong class, he’ll likely fall to somewhere in the middle of Day 2. That means some team will likely get a top 32 talent who can start immediately on defense and provide addition punt return value.

Pick made 10:19am PST, 1:19pm EST.
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With the 92 pick the dallas cowboys select WR Dede westbrook Oklahoma university

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Green Bay selects.....Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson.



STRENGTHS Athletic big man. Shows good movement skills for interior lineman. Operates in twisting, stunting defensive front at Clemson. Good lateral movement and agility creates problems for reach-blocking offensive linemen. Comes off the ball ready to punch and land first with his hands. Has closing burst down the line of scrimmage to challenge running backs looking to make back-side cut. Will stop his pass rush and activate hands in the passing lane when he sees quarterback begin wind-up. Played both nose and 3-technique at Clemson. Substantially more effective player if kept fresh in a rotation. Shows good awareness and recognition against screens.
WEAKNESSES Top-heavy with excess weight around midsection topping leaner lower body. Struggled to grow roots and stand up for himself against Alabama's powerful double teams. Pad level rises as snap progresses. Powerful guards can get under his pads and turn him out of the gap. Quality of play diminishes rapidly when fatigued. Needs to get early advantage as pass rusher or he won't be a factor. Missing quality counter moves as a rusher. Needs more aggressiveness at point of attack and shed blocker earlier. Motor runs hot and cold. Needs to show more explosive, sudden elements in his game.

NFL COMPARISON Sylvester Williams

BOTTOM LINE While Watkins has had a productive, successful career at Clemson, it is hard to isolate the area of his game that he will call a definitive strength in the NFL. Watkins is athletic and may have rotational appeal to teams that covet active interior linemen. His top-heavy frame limits his anchor at the point of attack and if his motor isn't revved up, he gets put on skates too often against power. Watkins has some talent and his traits are NFL-worthy, but he could end up being a Day 3 selection who will need to play at a more consistent level in order to become a factor as a pro.

Pick made @ 3:44 pm

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With the 94th pick in the 2017 OM Mock Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers proudly select:

Jake Butt, TE, Michigan

Height: 6'05"
Weight: 246 lbs.
Arm: 32"
Hand: 10"
40 yard dash: DNP
3-cone: DNP
Short shuttle: DNP
Vertical jump: DNP
Broad jump: DNP
225-lb bench: DNP

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Strengths: Has NFL size and steps up big in the passing game. Strong hands are like magnets. Can snatch and secure at the catch point. Tough and reliable when working in traffic. Fearless in the middle of the field and understands how to protect himself and the ball while there. Slick with hands. Has slap move to free himself off line of scrimmage and able to create separation at top of his route with sly push-offs. Sinks into space and chews up zone coverage. Play attributes will help him win in the red zone. Effective in intermediate work adjusting routes according to defensive positioning. Competitive after catch with ability to add to his yardage through force. Team co-captain.

Weaknesses: A little cumbersome getting off the line and into his routes. Very average athleticism. One-speed runner without many gears. Lacks speed to threaten vertically. Upright into and out of his breaks. Acceleration out of his cuts can be slight. Separation often comes from rub routes and scheme. NFL linebackers should be able to stick him in coverage. Limited catch radius. Grabby as a blocker and takes questionable angles up to second level. Allows physical outside linebackers to set strong edges against him. Needs more commitment and work as a run-blocker on NFL level.

Bottom Line: In-line tight end with strong, natural hands and the toughness to make a living in the middle of the field as a chain-moving safety blanket. While he's shown ability to operate as an intermediate target as well, he might lack the athleticism and separation to uncover against NFL safeties and some linebackers in man coverage. Butt must improve greatly as a blocker to reach his potential as a Y tight end. However, his ability as a reliable, productive target should earn him an early starter's nod with a chance to become a solid pro.

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With a name like Butt, you've got to be tough.

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5:46 p.m. New York
4:46 p.m. Chicago
3:46 p.m. Denver
2:46 p.m. Los Angeles
1:46 p.m. Soldotna

The Atlanta Falcons and Arkie are now on the clock....

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Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama
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With the 96th pick in the 2017 Orangemane Mock Draft -

The Superbowl Champions select -

Chad Hansen, WR, California


Hansen was a late bloomer who didn't stand out on his high school team until his senior year. Idaho State was the only school to make a scholarship offer, so off to Pocatello he went -- for one year. He started 11 games there in 2013 (45-501, three TDs) before sitting out the following year as a transfer to Cal. Hansen contributed in his first year in Berkeley (19-249, TD), and then again surprised the Pac-12 with a second-team all-conference effort in 2016. He ranked third in the FBS with 9.2 receptions a game, and fourth with 124.9 yards a contest (92-1,249), while also scoring 11 times despite missing two games with an ankle injury.



Maneuvers around route redirection in space and keeps his route on time. Works back to the throw. Has some talent after catch on wide receiver screens. Drive off the line and into his routes is consistent no matter which level he is going to work. Good awareness near sidelines. Able to drop his feet in-bounds when crowded against the boundary. Plays with good strength and physicality when mugged in his routes. Has fluid, powerful strides to burst past cornerbacks on vertical routes. Natural ball-tracker. Plus body control for ball adjustments in any direction. Hands are strong and can secure in traffic. Didn’t have to run much of the route tree, but showed willingness to work the middle. Gives physical, extended effort as run-blocker punching into cornerbacks frame and locking out. Able to make first tackler miss and accelerate into open field.


Upright off the snap and into his routes. Is eventual into breaks and allows cornerback time to gear down and transition back to the ball. Can be jammed up by strong press corners. Doesn’t create enough consistent separation with his intermediate routes. Route work at Cal was basic. Will face his share of contested catches on the pro level. Allows throws to crowd his frame. Needs to get better at using body to shield throws from defenders.

SOURCES TELL US "I'll bet you he will turn into a hot name during the draft. He's kind of unassuming when you see him in person, but he's a really competitive guy who plays bigger and faster than he might test. Coaches are going to love him." -- West regional scout for AFC team

BOTTOM LINE Hansen has good combination of size and speed for the perimeter with an ability to climb over the top of cornerbacks and win the deep ball. He has average separation quickness when asked to work the first two levels, but he has the hands and strength to handle contested catch situations. An ascending prospect in draft circles who should hear his name called on Day 2 (Rounds 2-3) of the daft with a chance to become a WR2.

Selection made at 18-36 ET - Miami (LDJ) are now OTC

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With pick 97, Miami Dolphins select OL Ethan Pocic.

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With every other NFL team snaking Carolina of their precious prospects, the Panthers use their second 3rd Round pick - 98th Overall, to select :



STRENGTHS Has experience at wide-9, 5-technique and as an outside linebacker. Frame filled out at a rapid rate over last few seasons at A&M. Coaches believe he can add and sustain even more muscle. Has length and average quickness to dart into gaps and breach the flow of the play. Has tools to become better edge setter with more strength. One year of defensive line play makes him moldable for NFL coaches. Has decent bend-and-rip rush move. Has shown ability to get skinny and wedge between double-team blocks. Flexible upper body along with coordinated work between hands and feet suggest future improvements as interior rusher. Effort player who hustles his way into tackles.

WEAKNESSES Still learning to play lower and drop anchor at the point of attack. Will get bounced around and widened out of the gap by size. Needs weight work to supplement average contact balance. Washed down by redirect blocks too easily. Needs to become more commanding and authoritative with his hands. Pad level too high and too welcoming for opposing blockers. Appears to have lost a little foot quickness with addition of weight over final two college seasons. Needs to prove he has toughness to play as a 3-4 defensive end.

SOURCES TELL US "Daeshon Hall is a name that is going to get hot. I didn't think he had starting potential when he was an outside 'backer. Now that he's bigger and stronger and playing with his hand down, I think he's a different player. I see him as a second-day (Rounds 2-3) guy." -- AFC scout


BOTTOM LINE Possesses the physical traits, versatility and effort to become an intriguing Day 2 selection, but teams might have to wait on Hall as he is still learning to play with a hand on the ground and needs to continue adding mass to his frame. Hall is nothing special as an edge rusher but has the talent to become an interesting interior rusher as a 3-4 defensive end. If he has enough ruggedness to handle full-time work in the trenches, he could become an eventual starter. The arrow is pointed up, but overdrafting the traits could prove to be a mistake.

Panthers pick submitted at 7:51pm PST/10:51pm EST.

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With the 99th pick in the 2017 OM Mock,

The New York Giants selectJordan Leggett, Tight End, Clemson

Jordan Leggett has large, tremendous hands and a knack for making the big play. Leggett is not an elite athlete at the position, but he is one of the best football players as a tight end in the draft. He finds people to block, he gets open, and makes big plays when his team needs them, especially at the end of games. He is reliable and productive and a good addition to the Giants' receiving corps, after earlier missing out on trading up for OJ Howard.

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