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Old 05-01-2017, 11:32 AM   #3151
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That was another one of those "What the hell is everyone clamoring over him for" picks for me.

Didn't understand Noah Brown, Eiljah Qualls, Jerry Ugokwe(literally had no idea who the **** he was), Trey Edmunds, Alvin Kamara nor Glen Antoine picks or hype.
man watch his footwork. Amazing for a RT. Guy is a stone wall in pass pro.
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Old 05-01-2017, 11:33 AM   #3152
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Let me say I'm glad I'm not the only one who was terrible so you guys might let me participate again next year.
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Old 05-01-2017, 11:41 AM   #3153
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man watch his footwork. Amazing for a RT. Guy is a stone wall in pass pro.
I understand him as a player, I like him. But it's similar to watching a wrestling match if you will.
Some fans love to watch Brock Lesnar, he's a big guy, throws people around and dominates a match. Most of his matches are not going to be the type you view as a classic though.

If you watch a guy like AJ Styles, he's smaller, he is not going slam guys around and power move you.
But he can work a match, he brings out the best in every opponent he faces and he is an artist in the ring.
He can have classic matches with anyone and they stand up over time.

Collins is like Brock Lesnar to me, he's a nice attraction but not my cup of tea.
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I like him but he's nothing special. Doesn't wow me.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:12 PM   #3154
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That was another one of those "What the hell is everyone clamoring over him for" picks for me.

Didn't understand Noah Brown, Eiljah Qualls, Jerry Ugokwe(literally had no idea who the **** he was), Trey Edmunds, Alvin Kamara nor Glen Antoine picks or hype.
Antoine looked like Wilfork a little bit on Tape. The NT position just doesn't hold much/any value at the draft. Won't be repeating that mistake on the next team I draft for. Probably the Rams, unless Joker is intent on keeping them.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:26 PM   #3155
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Antoine looked like Wilfork a little bit on Tape. The NT position just doesn't hold much/any value at the draft. Won't be repeating that mistake on the next team I draft for. Probably the Rams, unless Joker is intent on keeping them.
For NT you have to be a Danny Shelton or Phil Taylor type to get drafted fairly high these days.
So many teams play sub packages(****, sub packages are more base personnel than traditional defense)that the NT is taken off the field for passing downs to generate a better pass rush.

We see every year that guys who are graded as very good DT's fall in the draft if they cannot pass rush. Brown, Goldman, Ridgeway and etc.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:30 PM   #3156
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I cannot wait to see how Malik Jefferson does this upcoming season. He's either going to be in the mix for the top 4 or he'll be talked about as having a down year and talked about in the top 15-20.

They finally moved him to his natural OLB position and he should Von Miller level beast this season for Texas.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:12 PM   #3157
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That was another one of those "What the hell is everyone clamoring over him for" picks for me.

Didn't understand Noah Brown, Eiljah Qualls, Jerry Ugokwe(literally had no idea who the **** he was), Trey Edmunds, Alvin Kamara nor Glen Antoine picks or hype.
Scribe, if you didn't know who Ugokwe was you're just a flat out hater.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:18 PM   #3158
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Scribe, if you didn't know who Ugokwe was you're just a flat out hater.
I had to look him up. Thought I had to look up 4 others as well but I just had 1 person's name spelled wrong, 3 others I had simply forgotten they were on my list.
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Having trouble tracking down the following potential UDFAs, any help is appreciated.

LB Stevan Taylor
FB Nate Iese
QB Brady Gustafson
LB Nyeem Wartman-White
DE Khari White-ALexander
K Nick Weiler
DE SeVon Pittman
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WR Deon-Tay McManus
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LB Kylie Fitts
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QB Ryan Higgins
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WR Jamari Staples
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RB De'Shawn Jones
LB Nick DeLuca
WR Devin Borders
CB Tavian Lott
WR Garry Brown
WR Derek Griffin
RB Khalid Abdullah
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QB Matt Johns
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RB Joseph Yearby
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Sigh.... this is why it sucks that we don't have access to the medical from the combine.... I thought I was lucky to land him in the 5th, but instead he went undrafted AND unsigned.


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Sigh.... this is why it sucks that we don't have access to the medical from the combine.... I thought I was lucky to land him in the 5th, but instead he went undrafted AND unsigned.


I was wondering about him. Had him as a 5th round pick. Productive player. Such a shame.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:37 PM   #3162
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Have the results calculated, but don't feel like doing the massive type up tonight, will do it tomorrow. In the meantime, curious as to your guesses on the following:

So, the winner this year had a score of +1474. The runner up had a score of +1153. Who finished 3rd with a score of +998?

We had four teams score in the red this year. Any guesses? And the 32nd ranked team had a score of -164. Who was that?
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Sigh.... this is why it sucks that we don't have access to the medical from the combine.... I thought I was lucky to land him in the 5th, but instead he went undrafted AND unsigned.


Ugh, LB's and neck injuries always send up red flags.
I had him targeted too, was pissed when he went.
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Have the results calculated, but don't feel like doing the massive type up tonight, will do it tomorrow. In the meantime, curious as to your guesses on the following:

So, the winner this year had a score of +1474. The runner up had a score of +1153. Who finished 3rd with a score of +998?

We had four teams score in the red this year. Any guesses? And the 32nd ranked team had a score of -164. Who was that?
The lowest-ranked team scored -164? Wow, that's actually pretty good. Very solid drafting all around in the OM Mock this year, kudos to everyone for putting in the time and effort!

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My guess for the top 4 scores are Denver, Cleveland, Jacksonville, and San Francisco.

Guess for lowest is Oakland due to the Brantley issue, but I'd guess I'm not too far behind that.
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Have the results calculated, but don't feel like doing the massive type up tonight, will do it tomorrow. In the meantime, curious as to your guesses on the following:

So, the winner this year had a score of +1474. The runner up had a score of +1153. Who finished 3rd with a score of +998?

We had four teams score in the red this year. Any guesses? And the 32nd ranked team had a score of -164. Who was that?
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so how long you guys want to wait until we start the 2018?
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:38 PM   #3168
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lol, I know I need a break. A long one.
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so how long you guys want to wait until we start the 2018?
Already researching. Being a Michigan fan with Harbaugh at the helm makes it easy.

My first do not want player for 2018...Wilton Speight.
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how about O'Korn?
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Old 05-02-2017, 02:56 PM   #3171
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how about O'Korn?
What about O'Korn? I like him. It's Speight I dislike. He's too limited in what he can do. I mean that physically and mentally.

O'Korn and Peters have some wiggle to them. O'Korn didn't grasp the play book enough to make an impact last year. Peters was too physically immature.
McCaffrey will be the same this year.
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