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Old 12-24-2005, 03:25 AM   #1
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At War at Christmas: Military families sacrifice for us all




It's Christmas Eve, and hundreds of thousands of military families are not able to be together for the holiday. But like generations of Americans in uniform before them, they will buck up and soldier on.
Moms who have to do all the Christmas chores by themselves will explain again to their children why dad has to be thousands of miles away in Iraq or Afghanistan. Some dads will have to speak similar words to their children.
Most of us at home can only imagine bearing that burden. That's part of why it is important for those of us safe and warm by the hearth with our families this Christmas to remember and pay tribute to our military families who are separated by war.
We tend to forget that American troops have observed Christmas in Germany and Japan for 60 years and in Korea for more than 50. There are Americans in uniform there today.
But the military people most in harm's way are the roughly 19,000 troops in Afghanistan and the 160,000 in Iraq. Our hearts are with them. We pray for their safe return to their families by next Christmas.
Communications technology is a wonderful thing. It can help keep military families in closer touch than ever before.
Lt. Lee Kelley of the 222nd Field Artillery, a Utah National Guard unit deployed at Ramadi in Iraq, wrote on his blog (www.wordsmithatwar.blog-city.com) this week:
"We are still fighting a war in a very deadly region. We are still focused, and working hard. We work our shifts and immerse ourselves in our duties and make the most of each moment. But we are completely aware of the spirit of the Holidays that is happening in our homes [back in Utah]. We hum Christmas tunes. We want to be there, but we accept that we cannot. Many of us will use an instant messenger service and Web-cam or satellite phone to see and hear our loved ones on Christmas day. Technology does shorten the miles, and for that we are definitely thankful."
He writes, though, that since he cannot be with his children this Christmas, the experience will be bittersweet.
To Lt. Kelley and all our other men and women in uniform around the world, to our soldiers and sailors, Marines and airmen and airwomen, and to their children and sweethearts, parents and siblings who will miss them tonight, we offer a Merry Christmas, together with our thanks and a promise: Your sacrifices are not forgotten.
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To Lt. Kelley and all our other men and women in uniform around the world, to our soldiers and sailors, Marines and airmen and airwomen, and to their children and sweethearts, parents and siblings who will miss them tonight, we offer a Merry Christmas, together with our thanks and a promise: Your sacrifices are not forgotten.
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"Thank you for your service to our country. It saddens the majority of Americans to know that your country and its leaders have abused your trust and have sent you into harm's way without just cause. Please know that many of us back home are working hard and doing all we can to remedy this unacceptable situation."
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To this I would add:

"Thank you for your service to our country. It saddens the majority of Americans to know that your country and its leaders have abused your trust and have sent you into harm's way without just cause. Please know that many of us back home are working hard and doing all we can to remedy this unacceptable situation."
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Kick ass thread gunns .........I wish I had the power to snap my fingers ,and bring these guys home , I wish I had the power , to help everyone that is in distress this christmas .....
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Old 12-24-2005, 07:18 AM   #5
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There are parts of theater that are like Mayberry. There are parts of theater where you find out about something bad every day.

No two experiences in Iraq really are the same except everybody over here really does sincerely miss being at home and with family.

Some of the press I am reading back at home about this place is shocking. There things that my countryman back home must be thinking. I cannot imagine.
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There are parts of theater that are like Mayberry. There are parts of theater where you find out about something bad every day.

No two experiences in Iraq really are the same except everybody over here really does sincerely miss being at home and with family.

Some of the press I am reading back at home about this place is shocking. There things that my countryman back home must be thinking. I cannot imagine.
sounds like hell , to us back here .........
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There are parts of theater that are like Mayberry. There are parts of theater where you find out about something bad every day.

No two experiences in Iraq really are the same except everybody over here really does sincerely miss being at home and with family.

Some of the press I am reading back at home about this place is shocking. There things that my countryman back home must be thinking. I cannot imagine.
Here's hoping you get home soon, bro.

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Oh yeah, LABF - a couple questions I've had that you've neglected to answer:

In what branch did you serve? When? What rank did you attain? Where were you stationed?

Why do you fear those questions so much, and, indeed, why do you fear me so much?
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Oh yeah, LABF - a couple questions I've had that you've neglected to answer:

In what branch did you serve? When? What rank did you attain? Where were you stationed?

Why do you fear those questions so much, and, indeed, why do you fear me so much?
Cant even bust off a post of good wishes to those over seas......And you wonder why we call you a stalker .........
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Cant even bust off a post of good wishes to those over seas......And you wonder why we call you a stalker .........
LABF thinks being a vet gives one special insight on various subjects; I'd like to see his credentials.

Anyway, I'm an atheist, so Christmas means nothing to me.

But thanks for solidifying your status as LABF's cover boy.
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LABF thinks being a vet gives one special insight on various subjects; I'd like to see his credentials.
and you are who again ?

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Anyway, I'm an atheist, so Christmas means nothing to me.

But thanks for solidifying your status as LABF's cover boy.
So whats wrong with Happy Holidays ? .. or well wishes ? .......Dont realy give a damn if christmas means anything to you......... all you have is cyber space stalikng ........ I know maybe you want to punch me in the nose also ?hmmmm
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and you are who again ?
Someone who's not afraid to provide evidence of his credentials when commenting on a given subject that's relevant.

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So whats wrong with Happy Holidays ? .. or well wishes ?
I reserve those for people whom I care about, not random strangers.

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I know maybe you want to punch me in the nose also ?hmmmm
I'm nowhere near that stupid.

I'll leave that kind of nonsense to those who get so upset by letters on a computer screen.
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Someone who's not afraid to provide evidence of his credentials when commenting on a given subject that's relevant.
and this means what? ......Let me dumb it down for you , you are nobody , for example I am a trucker , I comment on D.O.T. , and you ask what company I am leased to , I will tell you where to go , cause it is none of your damn business ,either you agree or disagree with what I say ......



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I reserve those for people whom I care about, not random strangers.
Isee ,soyou dont give 2 shíts about the men and women over seas..... got it ......



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I'm nowhere near that stupid.

I'll leave that kind of nonsense to those who get so upset by letters on a computer screen.
I seen you lose it before .......
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and this means what? ......Let me dumb it down for you , you are nobody , for example I am a trucker , I comment on D.O.T. , and you ask what company I am leased to , I will tell you where to go , cause it is none of your damn business ,either you agree or disagree with what I say ......
Most vets aren't embarrassed by their service.

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Isee ,soyou dont give 2 shíts about the men and women over seas..... got it ......
Not adding to this thread means I don't care? Puhleeze - as if the most heartfelt comments here mean a damned thing. I'll act in the real world, not thump my chest about how righteous and wonderful I was on the OM. You're way too invested in this place. One server crash and no backups, and it's gone.

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I seen you lose it before .......
Granted, I didn't take one (of many hundreds) of LABF's insults well, but that's a very long way from physically attacking someone. No-one here is worth that.

Again, you put way too much importance on this ephemera.
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Privacy is abad word to you isnt it ?



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Not adding to this thread means I don't care? Puhleeze - as if the most heartfelt comments here mean a damned thing. I'll act in the real world, not thump my chest about how righteous and wonderful I was on the OM. You're way too invested in this place. One server crash and no backups, and it's gone.
you said it yourself , maybe next time you will choose your words a tad bit more carefully ....... and you dont think people in Iraq read the mane ? we got 1 poster here now in Iraq ,still pops in and out ......... dont you think he can read or somthing ?



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Granted, I didn't take one (of many hundreds) of LABF's insults well, but that's a very long way from physically attacking someone. No-one here is worth that.
could have fooled me ........

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Again, you put way too much importance on this ephemera.
We all have to have a hobby ...... your hobby ,carrying water for Bush ....
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Cant even bust off a post of good wishes to those over seas......And you wonder why we call you a stalker .........
And he's not even a good stalker (otherwise he would have noticed the thread where I posted the answer to his questions a while ago.)

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And he's not even a good stalker (otherwise he would have noticed the thread where I posted the answer to his questions a while ago.)
I skimmed all your posts from the last couple of weeks and didn't see your answers to my queries.

What's the URL?

Or have I caught you out in another lie?
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Privacy is abad word to you isnt it ?
I'm not asking for LABF's SS number, for Chrissakes. He's claimed to be a vet, I'm just getting at specifics.

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you said it yourself , maybe next time you will choose your words a tad bit more carefully ....... and you dont think people in Iraq read the mane ? we got 1 poster here now in Iraq ,still pops in and out ......... dont you think he can read or somthing ?
I suppose some folks would wrench their shoulders patting themselves on the back for putting up some "best wishes" type stuff on the OM, but I've already done my bit in the real world that's been of considerably more impact.

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We all have to have a hobby ...... your hobby ,carrying water for Bush ....
Petition the mods to change the name of this whole area on the OM to "Bush-bashers only" so it's more clear to everyone that comes in that anything more subtle or substantial than "Bush is a poophead" gets them labeled a Bush supporter. Then you'll be happy reading only one narrow view of things.
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I'm not asking for LABF's SS number, for Chrissakes. He's claimed to be a vet, I'm just getting at specifics.
youknow aswellasIdo , you get specifics , you get everything ........



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I suppose some folks would wrench their shoulders patting themselves on the back for putting up some "best wishes" type stuff on the OM, but I've already done my bit in the real world that's been of considerably more impact.
good , my cousins son in iraq needs all the support he can get



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Petition the mods to change the name of this whole area on the OM to "Bush-bashers only" so it's more clear to everyone that comes in that anything more subtle or substantial than "Bush is a poophead" gets them labeled a Bush supporter. Then you'll be happy reading only one narrow view of things.
.......dont take offense son ,your post show you carry water ........
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I'm not asking for LABF's SS number, for Chrissakes...
Now that's a creepy thought.

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Now that's a creepy thought.

Glad I'm not a redhead!
You fear homosexuals because you figure they'd treat you as poorly as you treat your female intimates, right?

Anyway, you said you answered my questions; what's the URL?
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See here is the thing ,, you get into afight , you have to get mad dog mean ,what I mean is , you get cut with a switch blade you keep comming ,your nuts are the size of grape fruits ,you keep comming foward . Been there done that , evensrrn my Knee capon the side of my leg ,kept comming foward ,Watched my dad get shot , he kept going foward .......... Dont see Bush going foward ......
I damn near faced death , got back up and said give me your best shot .... I see a pússy like Bush ....Turns my stomache ........ to give an ass beating ,you have to be able to take one ........... Like whenI found my baby brother dead , I kept going on ,Bush would be in a fetal position ......youguyswant to know why Ihate Bush?...........Simple ,he talks of kicking ass ,but hasnt kicked any ass ..it is in his eyes...........now mccain is a different story ,that man can take an ass beating ..........Bush, fúcking wann a be
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If you really feel that way about Bush, then Clinton and Carter must have really made you spew gallons, Spider.
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......you guys want to know why Ihate Bush?...........Simple ,he talks of kicking ass ,but hasnt kicked any ass .
True that.

Smirky McWarhardon and the members of the criminal chickenhawk cartel with whom he surrounds himself all have that in common: They'll rattle their sabers and talk tough without hesitation and without reservation - as long as someone else's kids do the actual fighting.
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you see we are in a fight......we have to get mean , Ihave hurt people and felt bad after the deed ,we are not afford this in this fight , we have to hurt peoplend keep going foward , Bush only has done damage to a line of coke .........lying ,spying wont get us out of this,,,Hardcore ass kicking will .. i hate theIraqi war,but our troops know what Iam talking about ...... I was a white Kid that walked around 5 points of Denver , kicked ass........it is ok to be a p***Y , but dont play ot hard if you dont walk tyhe walk.......
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