Some Republicans Idea of Family values .....

[Spider]

STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA


* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

* Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Stem cell research = looking for a brain in Spider.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

Stem cell research = looking for a brain in Spider.

are you saying what I posted is untrue ?

[ClevelandBronco2]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

are you saying what I posted is untrue ?

Nope. I'm saying you're an idiot.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

Nope. I'm saying you're an idiot.

Iam an Idiot for thinking Pedophilia is wrong? .........

[ClevelandBronco2]

And you're no longer worth reading or responding to. You're a sham and a lapdog.

You made it. You're the one ignorant truck-driving POS on my ignore list.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

And you're no longer worth reading or responding to. You're a sham and a lapdog.

You made it. You're the one ignorant truck-driving POS on my ignore list.

I am a Lap Dog for Posting Republicans that commited Pedophilia ..... your a lap dog for Defending them ....
....... Dispatched , Next Republican Idiot step up ....... I will send you crying like Cleveland ........

[ClevelandBronco2]

I can tolerate LABF. He's at least truthful about where he's coming from.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

I can tolerate LABF. He's at least truthful about where he's coming from.

So you are saying that Moderates shoud support Pedophilia ?

[Spider]

here is even more ...... http://www.politicalamazon.com/GOP-pedophilia.html

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

Stem cell research = looking for a brain in Spider.

What's up with the instant personal attack, Cleveland? I mean, the title of this thread does pretty much indicate the content... and no one forced you to open the thread.

Why not google for Dem indiscretions rather than just shooting the messenger?

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

What's up with the instant personal attack, Cleveland? I mean, the title of this thread does pretty much indicate the content... and no one forced you to open the thread.

Why not google for Dem indiscretions rather than just shooting the messenger?

He's just mad because Spider is thrashing his beloved Republicans. Instead of having some balls and acknowleding that this type of behavior is wrong he attacks the messenger. Sad really.

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco2

I can tolerate LABF. He's at least truthful about where he's coming from.

LABF gets a lot of his material from Bartcop...a very LEFT-SLANTED website.

I don't have a list of Democrats who have committed crimes, but I know West Virginia senator Robert Byrd was a former Ku Klux Klan member. There's bad apples in both parties.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

LABF gets a lot of his material from Bartcop...a very LEFT-SLANTED website.

I don't have a list of Democrats who have committed crimes, but I know West Virginia senator Robert Byrd was a former Ku Klux Klan member. There's bad apples in both parties.

commiting Crimes Sure alot of Democrats have , but Child Pedophiles , well I did a search to be fair , all I could come up with is Liberals supports gays in Boy scouts , I could even forgive some one that was a Klansman denounced the Klan , But a Pedophile , well thats an entire different subject ............ actually it is sad , that you brought up Byrd being a Klansman in hopes of off setting these pedophile acts .... a Black man can fight back , A child cant ........But as long as these Pedophile have an R beside their name People that claim to have morals will defend these child rapers ........

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Blueflame

What's up with the instant personal attack, Cleveland? I mean, the title of this thread does pretty much indicate the content... and no one forced you to open the thread.

Why not google for Dem indiscretions rather than just shooting the messenger?

he blew a gasket , on another thread he claimed Democrats didnt have a clue .. then I blind sided him with this .............

[Spider]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

commiting Crimes Sure alot of Democrats have , but Child Pedophiles , well I did a search to be fair , all I could come up with is Liberals supports gays in Boy scouts , I could even forgive some one that was a Klansman denounced the Klan , But a Pedophile , well thats an entire different subject ............ actually it is sad , that you brought up Byrd being a Klansman in hopes of off setting these pedophile acts .... a Black man can fight back , A child cant ........But as long as these Pedophile have an R beside their name People that claim to have morals will defend these child rapers ........

P.S. the last part isnt aimed at you Crush ....... Please dont take it as it is .......

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

commiting Crimes Sure alot of Democrats have , but Child Pedophiles , well I did a search to be fair , all I could come up with is Liberals supports gays in Boy scouts

You didn't find Mel Reynolds?

In any case, some of the incidents in your list were accusations or rumor - not proven in a court of law. Also, there were no dates or places listed. If this list was composed of incidents that took place all over the country over a period of some decades, I don't know quite what it would prove, except that there are Republicans who are scum. There are Democrats who are scum, too.

Neither fact is earth-shaking.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You didn't find Mel Reynolds?

In any case, some of the incidents in your list were accusations or rumor - not proven in a court of law. Also, there were no dates or places listed. If this list was composed of incidents that took place all over the country over a period of some decades, I don't know quite what it would prove, except that there are Republicans who are scum. There are Democrats who are scum, too.

Neither fact is earth-shaking.

Wasnt Mel Reyonlds Indited for Fraud ?
How does that compare to Child Molesters ?
Oh the List I provided Pretty accurate , take the time go look them up yourself .... Oh Wait , I remember you are the one that Defended Waco .........
Basicaly w*gs you are saying that this List should be dismissed cause Mel Reynolds commited Fraud ....... .....
Listen wags i dont know how you raise your Kids , but here is My view , Steal From me I am pissed , you Molest my Kids , I will kill you .........

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Wasnt Mel Reyonlds Indited for Fraud ?

He was also serving a sentence for having sex with an underage campaign volunteer. Clinton commuted both that sentence and the sentence for Reynolds' use of campaign funds for personal interests.

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Oh the List I provided Pretty accurate , take the time go look them up yourself ....

I don't consider an accusation or a rumor to be sufficient to decry someone as guilty, no matter the what the crime is. I didn't count how many on the list were accusations versus convictions in the courts - perhaps you can do that. What fraction of all Republicans do the Republicans on the list constitute, anyway?

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Basicaly w*gs you are saying that this List should be dismissed cause Mel Reynolds commited Fraud ....... .....

Ahhh, no. Reynolds had sex with an underage person - therefore, using the same standard as that in your list, he too is a pedophile. Secondly, I don't dismiss the list in total - I don't take accusations or rumors as proof of guilt, and in any case, there are Republicans who are scum. There are Democrats who are scum, too - Mel Reynolds and Robert Byrd, for example.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

He was also serving a sentence for having sex with an underage campaign volunteer. Clinton commuted both that sentence and the sentence for Reynolds' use of campaign funds for personal interests.

If that is the Case , Then Mel Reynolds is a Scum Bag , see how that works ?
I wont bring anyone else in ..Reynolds is a low down Scumbag ........

I don't consider an accusation or a rumor to be sufficient to decry someone as guilty, no matter the what the crime is. I didn't count how many on the list were accusations versus convictions in the courts - perhaps you can do that. What fraction of all Republicans do the Republicans on the list constitute, anyway?

got to be honest here , dont realy give a damn what you think , sorry to be so Harsh , but that is the way it is , you want to Defend these guys go ahead , Thats on you not me ... Oh and By the way take the time to look up the Word Some ...... quick definition Not all ........ Brilliant huh .....

Ahhh, no. Reynolds had sex with an underage person - therefore, using the same standard as that in your list, he too is a pedophile.

Then he is a scum sucker ....See how that works , I wont defend him , I wont say well so and so Did this also ........ Mel didnt come up on my Search of Democrats convicted of Child Molestation ..... If you find more , Iwill denounce them also .......

Secondly, I don't dismiss the list in total - I don't take accusations or rumors as proof of guilt, and in any case, there are Republicans who are scum. There are Democrats who are scum, too - Mel Reynolds and Robert Byrd, for example.

Dont care if you do or dont , Reynolds is scum , Byrd mended his ways , Lets stick to Pedophilia shall we ?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

you want to Defend these guys go ahead , Thats on you not me ...

I'm not defending these guys - just questioning your use of the list as an indictment of Republicans as being more likely to be pedophiles than Democrats. One of the problems with this use of the list is that at some of the men mentioned were accused, not convicted. Big difference there.

In any case, there are scummy people. Some are Republicans, some are Democrats. I see no major difference between the two parties in that regard.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

I'm not defending these guys - just questioning your use of the list as an indictment of Republicans as being more likely to be pedophiles than Democrats. One of the problems with this use of the list is that at some of the men mentioned were accused, not convicted. Big difference there.

In any case, there are scummy people. Some are Republicans, some are Democrats. I see no major difference between the two parties in that regard.

you see no difference ? thats fine , we found 1 Democrat vs Several convicted Republicans on the list , Ok no difference it is a wash , But now , what Party was running on the Family Values ?
What Party was running on Morality ?
What Party do the Christians Back ?
Vs 1 Democrat ..... But hey Rumor has it you will get Bill back to Bash , every dark cloud has a silver linning ........

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

But now , what Party was running on the Family Values ?
What Party was running on Morality ?
What Party do the Christians Back ?

Who cares?

The wealthiest members of the Senate are Democrats - and the most recent Democratic nominee for President was the wealthiest member in the entire Congress, if I'm not mistaken.

Which party runs on standing up for the working man?
Which party claims to be for the poor?

How does that square with the incredible wealth held by the top Democrats?

I think politicians are scum. Lists of scummy actions by politicians of either party do not surprise me - they reinforce my views.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Who cares?

The wealthiest members of the Senate are Democrats - and the most recent Democratic nominee for President was the wealthiest member in the entire Congress, if I'm not mistaken.

Which party runs on standing up for the working man?
Which party claims to be for the poor?

How does that square with the incredible wealth held by the top Democrats?

I think politicians are scum. Lists of scummy actions by politicians of either party do not surprise me - they reinforce my views.

, W*GS if you dont see the Hypocrisy and the Purpose of this thread , it is Cause you choose not to , but dont take my word for it , your Post speak for themselfs , you have tried every way possible to deflect from the original post .....
If you dont see anything wrong with a Party saying they Stand for Family Values , meanwhile some of their Members are Pulling a Michael Jackson , Maybe the NRA is the Militant wing for NAMBLA , ......... I got what I wanted , I wanted to see how far you would go to Defelct and Defend these guys , and right on cue you spun away ........ you actually Compared a Party saying they stand up for Poor People , to a Party that says they are Religious while Cornholing a 13 year old Boy ......... thats rich

[Spider]

I have to ask , is it so Damn Hard for Bush apologist to say , Yeah Spider they are Scum and got what they deserved , or will get busted ....... Sex with Kids despite what Party you Belong to is wrong ?
Instead of Defelcting , Spinning , Well the Democrats did this or that ?