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Old 12-28-2004, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default antigravity....is it here?

http://www.americanantigravity.com/index.shtml
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Old 12-30-2004, 07:49 AM   #2
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Thats a pretty cool article though I think feasible anti-gravity technology is still a hundred or more years away.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:35 AM   #3
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Hey Josh, read up on string theory. There ae several theories present, all present possibilities with Anti-gravity.

Einstein's theory of relativity prohibits anti-gravity applications. However, string theory has managed to unite the four basic fources of the universe (Electromagnatism, gravity, the strong and weak nuclear forces) and through string theory anti-gravity applications become possible.

Most mainstream scientists will not get into this field of research because of the UFO stigma attached to it. The problem is that most scientists are Einsteinian scientists these days and do not think outside the box (ironically this is exactly what Einstein did as a scientist). String theory, at the moment, cannot be proven or disproven which makes it another topic of skepticism by mainstream scientists but that does not mean it is necessarily wrong or that it is a wrong direction to go in.

If anti-gravity can be created and applied with technology, everything changes. No longer are speed barriers a problem, G-forces can be nullified, trips in space would be reduced in cost and danger to the human body, the possibility of warping spacetime enough to travel faster than light (seemingly) will emerge, the possibilities of antigravity are nearly inexhaustable. In fact, we will NEED to create this kind of technology for any major advancements in space propulsion.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:40 AM   #4
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Good stuff.

It has been a long time since I was really current on this stuff, but I was always a chemistry/physics buff.

I liked the articles on Cold Fusion. I believe this is our easiest way out of the "energy crisis" and needs more serious research (dollars). Trouble is it has the "atomic energy" dangers as part of the public stigma.
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Cold fusion is likely a pipe dream but I would imagine the research going into it will lead to other avenue's that may be beneficial.
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Old 12-30-2004, 12:26 PM   #6
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Alec,

Einstien's theory also can apply to time travel. If we figure anti-gravity out - time travel could be next.

String theory is just science trying to explain what those in antiquity already knew
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If time travel is possible Josh, String theory is likely correct. Einstein does not account for extra dimensions, string theory does. If alternate universes exist, then that gets around about 99.99% of the paradoxes created by time travel because you would not be able to alter your own timeline, but rather an alternate universe's timeline and that timeline wasn't "altered" per se, that timeline things happen that were supposed to happen.

Quantum tunnelling may get around the whole time problem. It may be possible to go from point A to point B without moving in time at all (save for the amount of time it takes to get from A to B). If you are getting AROUND the light barrier, (that is tunnelling quantumly or warping space), the time's speed should not change (as I understand it, I am certainly no physicist though).

Most know that as you approach the speed of light in 3D spatial perspectives, time slows for you. The faster you go, the slower time travels for you, meanwhile those on Earth would continue to go through timeline as per normal. So, lets say you take off in a ship and ehad to the nearest star (Alpha Centauri trinary system, 3.something LY away). You are travelling at the Speed of Light. No time would pass for you but when you did get there (instantaneously to your perspective or very near to it) 3.something years have passed on Earth.

Tunnelling and Warping may be able to get around that as you are not necessarily travelling faster than light, you are circumventing 3 dimensional space all together and since 3D space and time are connected you are circumventing time as well.

Who knows, but its all rather fascinating to me.
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alec,

have you heard the 'legend' of john titor?

http://www.johntitor.com/

this guy claims to have been a time travler and he goes into such things. Even the timeline issues.

I like einstien, but physics bores me to a point. Although i'm interested in the physics of sound (due to playing drums) and i think there are secrets to music, that correlate to lots of other things.

I also know einstien used sciene to prove what he found in his beliefs to be correct.
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I love physics, I just hate math.
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Old 12-30-2004, 12:57 PM   #10
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I love physics, I just hate math.
Same here...

Here's an article that I was going to post yesterday
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/1...eII/index.html

Oops wrong one This is the one that really throws a loop into General relativity

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...mayloseitspull

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Old 12-30-2004, 01:03 PM   #11
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I hate math too, but music makes math fun.... )
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:08 PM   #12
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I hate math too, but music makes math fun.... )
Math... you just cannot get away from it... Music & Math are so tied together it's disgusting!

The interesting thing about string theory is that the strings could be on a specific harmonic frequency... Music...
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Yep, I've looked into harmonics & states of consisniouss too Max - which is making you operate at a different frq
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http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/...lnews&id=52409

Scientists link common reality to quantum physics:
[World News]: Washington, Dec 30 : Have you ever wondered why different people don't see the world differently? According to a team of scientist from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, the answer lies in quantum mechanics.

The researchers, whose findings were published in the "Physical Review Letters," our objective, common reality emerges from the subtle and sensitive quantum world.

They say that certain special states of a system are promoted above others by a quantum form of natural selection, which they call quantum Darwinism.

Information about these states proliferates and gets imprinted on the environment. So observers coming along and looking at the environment in order to get a picture of the world tend to see the same 'preferred' states.

They say that the that macroscopic or classical world emerges from the quantum world of many possible states through a phenomenon called decoherence, according to which interactions between the quantum states of the system of interest and its environment serve to 'collapse' those states into a single outcome. But this process of decoherence still isn't fully understood.

"Decoherence selects out of the quantum 'mush' states that are stable, that can withstand the scrutiny of the environment without getting perturbed," the researchers wrote in their study. (ANI)
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Fantastic article Max!
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Yep, I've looked into harmonics & states of consisniouss too Max - which is making you operate at a different frq
Low Frequency or High...? Which one
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The different dimensions posed in string theory will all operate on different frequencies.

So, you got your Atom which is made up of a Nucleus of Protons and Neutrons with electrons flying around it at random. The protons and neutrons (and electrons as well) are made up of quarks. The quarks are not really anyting but a collection of "strings" resonating at a given frequency that defines what the atom as a whole is. Each string, each atom, each proton, operates at a different frequency.

The real mind bending aspect of strings is that in this infinitely small area (so small we have no means of seeing them even with the most powerful microscopes) are collectively the missing dimensions of reality. Going any deeper than that needs someone more articulate than I to explain. While my mind can grasp what the theory says, I have no means of explaining it to someone that may or may not be interested in it (no way of explaining in layman's terms that is).

Speaking of harmonics, you hear about sound harmonic technology where opposite sound waves can cancel sound out completely? For instance, a jet equipped with sound harmonics would theoretically not make a sound at all during takeoff, flight and landing? Make living by the airport a lot nicer wouldnt it? All stuff for the very near future. Its a good time to be alive.
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Yeah, yours too Josh.

Max's article was new to me (I had previously been to the american anti-grav website).
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Alec,

I firmly believe we aren't any smarter than people from generations ago. Just different tools
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Dumber.

They figured sh*t out with slide rules.
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lol this is true.

I had a hard time learning math, but i learned it was the school system, not math. I have since learned geometry on my own, and music, and i love to cook - so i learned that im not bad at math, i just sucked at math when i had someone telling me that there was only one way to do math..
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