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Old 10-19-2004, 11:44 AM   #1
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Comp OC'd to 5.2 ghz. using Liquid Nitrogen for cooling. Impressive. Although, I believe they have hit 6 ghz now as this video is a few months old.
http://www.tomshardware.com/images/t...eo_11_5ghz.zip
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:34 PM   #2
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Comp OC'd to 5.2 ghz. using Liquid Nitrogen for cooling. Impressive. Although, I believe they have hit 6 ghz now as this video is a few months old.
http://www.tomshardware.com/images/t...eo_11_5ghz.zip

The only problem with having to o/c this much is that liquid cooling is right out the window... they will start having to use plasma cooling or start installing refrigiration to chips... HVAC people will love this... can you imagine having to repair a tiny self-contained A/C unit on a computer for a living? You'd have to have mouse hands

The next step up for processors will be interesting for sure... just today the NDA was lifted on the new Athlon Fx -55 chips... (Drools)
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:37 PM   #3
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Did you watch the video? Now I agree it's outragous to overclock this much...but, it's impressive what they did. And the LN cooling system they used was pretty l33t for something made quickly. Now with all that being said. They are nerds.
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Did you watch the video? Now I agree it's outragous to overclock this much...but, it's impressive what they did. And the LN cooling system they used was pretty l33t for something made quickly. Now with all that being said. They are nerds.
I remember them having to use the same type of cooling with a board a few years ago too... As I recall then, the capacitors near the chip exploded on the board after 10 minutes. Most of these custom O/C's need custom designed mobos just to be able to handle the circuitry at these temps...

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Silicon is almost at its limits. We are on the verge people, of breakaway computing power. Bank on it.

The genetic and molecular systems theorized about a few years ago are now in the R&D stages and the possibilities for both are astounding. For instance, the molecular computer will be a trinary deck. A trinary deck has the standard "On/Off" or "Yes/No" options like our normal everyday binary decks have but also will be able to have "ONOFF" or "YESNO" essentially giving the computer a "maybe".

What does this mean?

I will give an example of the increase in computing power:
You have a number, with 1 MILLION digits (thats 1,000,000 zeros on the number, not 1,000,000) and you ask the combined computing power of all the world to give all the factors of that number and it would take approximately 2.5 CENTURIES to compute.

You give that same number to a molecular computer and tell it to do the same exact thing and you have the results within 4 seconds.

Computers wont be clocked in Gigahertz or even Terahertz, but Exahertz, Zettahertz and Yottahertz. (A giga is 1 billion, tera is 1 trillion, peta is 1 quadrillion, exa is 1 quintrillion, zetta is 1 sextillion, yotta is 1 septillion or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000).

To put that in perspective. If you stacked every grain of sand on Earth (something on the order of 5 trillion) you would have a line of sand all the way to Neptune. If you had enough sand to equal a septillion you would have enough sand to make a line all the way to the nearest star (3.2 light years)....AND BACK. This is how big of a number we are talking about and when discussing speeds, its just going to get insane.

further, storage devices will become molecular as well reducing the need for moving parts and thus increasing the overall speed of the machine. Currently, your computer can only go as fast as the front side bus speeds and your hard drive (depending on what task you are performing).

Molecular (or genetic, both of which show much promise) computers are literally going to transform everything we know moreso than the microchip did, moreso than electricity did, moreso than pretty much any invention ever. Why? with these computers, calculations for things that are not currently possible can happen, not in a few hours, but in moments, real time. Weather will be able to be predicted...ACCURATELY, to over three hundred thousand years worldwide just to give you an example.

Not to mention the possibilities of the nano and quantum technologies being incorporated into the computing world.

It is truly a fascinating time to be alive.
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Silicon is almost at its limits. We are on the verge people, of breakaway computing power. Bank on it.

The genetic and molecular systems theorized about a few years ago are now in the R&D stages and the possibilities for both are astounding. For instance, the molecular computer will be a trinary deck. A trinary deck has the standard "On/Off" or "Yes/No" options like our normal everyday binary decks have but also will be able to have "ONOFF" or "YESNO" essentially giving the computer a "maybe".

What does this mean?

I will give an example of the increase in computing power:
You have a number, with 1 MILLION digits (thats 1,000,000 zeros on the number, not 1,000,000) and you ask the combined computing power of all the world to give all the factors of that number and it would take approximately 2.5 CENTURIES to compute.

You give that same number to a molecular computer and tell it to do the same exact thing and you have the results within 4 seconds.

Computers wont be clocked in Gigahertz or even Terahertz, but Exahertz, Zettahertz and Yottahertz. (A giga is 1 billion, tera is 1 trillion, peta is 1 quadrillion, exa is 1 quintrillion, zetta is 1 sextillion, yotta is 1 septillion or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000).

To put that in perspective. If you stacked every grain of sand on Earth (something on the order of 5 trillion) you would have a line of sand all the way to Neptune. If you had enough sand to equal a septillion you would have enough sand to make a line all the way to the nearest star (3.2 light years)....AND BACK. This is how big of a number we are talking about and when discussing speeds, its just going to get insane.

further, storage devices will become molecular as well reducing the need for moving parts and thus increasing the overall speed of the machine. Currently, your computer can only go as fast as the front side bus speeds and your hard drive (depending on what task you are performing).

Molecular (or genetic, both of which show much promise) computers are literally going to transform everything we know moreso than the microchip did, moreso than electricity did, moreso than pretty much any invention ever. Why? with these computers, calculations for things that are not currently possible can happen, not in a few hours, but in moments, real time. Weather will be able to be predicted...ACCURATELY, to over three hundred thousand years worldwide just to give you an example.

Not to mention the possibilities of the nano and quantum technologies being incorporated into the computing world.

It is truly a fascinating time to be alive.

Hey Alec, can you remember what the human brain had the potential to compute in terms of speed? I am curious to see how close computer AI is coming to full emulation of the human brain speed in processing...
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Its immeasurable at this point Pez. They probably have some estimate of it but to really fathom what the brain does on a per second basis is probably never going to be accurately measured.

Your body is doing things unaware to your conscious mind. The act of breathing, dreaming, eating, walking, standing upright, all beyond the capabilities of even the most powerful computers (ten trillion lines of code to get Asimo, the most advanced robot in the world, to stand upright and stay balanced under most circumstances). Our minds, if unrestricted (that is, if you could get it to focus solely on a math problem) could - my educated guess here - probably calculate the factors of a number with over a trillion digits.

I like to look at the mind like this. Parallel processing of the highest order. Billions and billions of tiny processors stacked and working in synchronized order. computers may get there Pez, but I have grave doubts AI will ever be like Sci Fi movies...at least in our lifetime.

That being said, the AI we will eventually see later in our own lives will be far more than most humans will ever require of a computer. Other computers are more likely to use the processing power available to its fullest.
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Interesting Alec. That was all very very interesting. We really are improving by leaps and bounds. My head hurts now though. I think I'm going to go lay down and let my brain cool.
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you need a cooling fan on your brain after reading that.

I had a friend who believed that aliens gave us computer technology.

He said after the crash in Roswell, that's when the computer age began...we found the alien ship and stole their technology....anyway..he was kinda crazy.
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you need a cooling fan on your brain after reading that.

I had a friend who believed that aliens gave us computer technology.

He said after the crash in Roswell, that's when the computer age began...we found the alien ship and stole their technology....anyway..he was kinda crazy.
I use to believe that. It is true though. After 1946 technology really boomed. But I think it's more of a coincidence than anything. There was a book out there that one of my co-workers had me read. It was some Military guy that worked at Area 51 and he wrote it from his deathbed. Thats pretty much what he says in the book. We reversed engineered Alien technology to come up with fiber optics, computer chips, and so forth. Interesting book, but I don't know if I buy it.
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