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Old 06-28-2014, 09:22 PM   #51
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Yes, the IRS has had some cuts but are really in no position to demand anything. Federal spending in general needs to decline, at least the discretionary portion. If they want better IT then allocate their funds in a way that reflects that as a priority. Price's chart shows they have had some very healthy steady increases until recently, so if they can't make it work, that's too damn bad.

I don't understand this whole "but the other party did the same thing".....ofcourse they did. The party out of power never gives the incumbent party a break on these abuses so why would they expect to start getting them now. Darrell Issa is being a hyper partisan dick because Henry Waxman was a hyper partisan dick who was that way because Dan Burton was a hyper partisan dick and we can keep going on and on backwards.

Why would Republicans cut Democrats a break and why would Democrats cut a Republicans a break? Of what benefit is it to them? Were they ever granted the same luxury?
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:59 PM   #52
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Why would Republicans cut Democrats a break and why would Democrats cut a Republicans a break? Of what benefit is it to them? Were they ever granted the same luxury?
Compromise only goes one way. Dem/Libs way.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:11 PM   #53
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Why would the IRS need that much money every budget. It can't be that much more work then 15 yrs ago. With technology it should get easier not tougher.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:25 PM   #54
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Obama expanded funding to the IRS by 65% in his first 3 years from $80B to $135B. Due to sequestration (no longer existent), IRS funding was reduced to $105B in 2013, which is "only" a 20% increase in funding since 2009. A mere 4% y-o-y increase.

Only in the Socialist Regressive bizarro universe would 4% yearly IRS funding increases during a recession be considered "sucking the budget from".

You really can't make this stuff up. This moron comes on here calling conservatives "terrorists" and "extremists" because IRS funding only goes up 4% every year in a recession when the US is already $17T in debt? Oh the horror. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn disgusting. You want to see the real "terrorists"? Look no further than Socialist Regressives like Rohirrim who will not stop until the US is completely bankrupt.
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Why would the IRS need that much money every budget. It can't be that much more work then 15 yrs ago. With technology it should get easier not tougher.
You'd think, but this government after 600 million or more spent and 3 years, couldn't even create a website that performed correctly. Not to mention able to keep track of emails, conveniently "losing" them when they need to as well. But Obama supporters are ok with all of that. A private company does that and is out of business. Government does that and want even more money and get bonuses for bogus work.
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Old 06-29-2014, 06:56 AM   #56
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Give up, SoCal. All the ditto-heads can do is recite dogma.

I agree that government must become far more efficient, but I don't agree that simple funding cuts are the solution. That is a dogmatic solution. Just as some believe that spending is by its very nature beneficial, it's just as silly to believe the opposite, that cuts are always good, no matter the situation. When all that money is cut from government simply to reside in the offshore banks of the already ridiculously wealthy while our infrastructure crumbles and our institutions of government fail I think of it as a criminal failure of political philosophy.

By latest count, the world's richest 1% are hiding 32 trillion in offshore banks. That wealth is doing nothing for nobody, other than I guess the fat cats who can fly down there and wallow around in it every once in a while..

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Please! Tell me when Dem/Libs compromised in the conservative direction.
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Give up, SoCal. All the ditto-heads can do is recite dogma.

I agree that government must become far more efficient, but I don't agree that simple funding cuts are the solution. That is a dogmatic solution. Just as some believe that spending is by its very nature beneficial, it's just as silly to believe the opposite, that cuts are always good, no matter the situation. When all that money is cut from government simply to reside in the offshore banks of the already ridiculously wealthy while our infrastructure crumbles and our institutions of government fail I think of it as a criminal failure of political philosophy.

By latest count, the world's richest 1% are hiding 32 trillion in offshore banks. That wealth is doing nothing for nobody, other than I guess the fat cats who can fly down there and wallow around in it every once in a while..
Obama doesn't try to lead very much on changing the foreign corp tax code. It's the only way to get some revenue on that off shore profit to force it home. The rate has to be lowered, then the law changed to force a % of it back to the USA. it would take some big time leadership to get it done. Clinton and Bush both talked about it.
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Disband, and reform, with independent private oversight.
That's just a bit of an oxymoron there, don't you think? You can reform after you've destroyed it.

What reforms are you advocating for?
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...Clinton and Bush both talked about it.
lol, yes, talking about something, idly or otherwise, displays leadership. If that was the case, you'd be KING OF THE WORLD!!!
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The only government agency that exists liberals are against and would want eliminated is anything to do with the military. Otherwise, bloat and waste away with no consequence.
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lol, yes, talking about something, idly or otherwise, displays leadership. If that was the case, you'd be KING OF THE WORLD!!!

You are crazy it's liberals that won't discuss lowering the corp tax rates.
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That's just a bit of an oxymoron there, don't you think? You can reform after you've destroyed it.

What reforms are you advocating for?
1. Finish investigation by retaining purged records from the NSA. If the records still exist.

2. Fire everyone involved who broke the law by not keeping records AS REQUIRED, including the IRS chief. Prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

3. Establish private independent oversight, to regularly audit the IRS, and report the results to the American people.

Contracting out the work is the best solution, but I'm not sure the feasibility of that.
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1. Finish investigation by retaining purged records from the NSA. If the records still exist.

2. Fire everyone involved who broke the law by not keeping records AS REQUIRED, including the IRS chief. Prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

3. Establish private independent oversight, to regularly audit the IRS, and report the results to the American people.

Contracting out the work is the best solution, but I'm not sure the feasibility of that.
People don't fear getting fired any more. They all should get what tax evaders get. Prison.
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