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Old 05-16-2014, 12:52 PM   #26
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Who the hell are 1 and 2 gonna be if Manning is 3?!?
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:57 PM   #27
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if I'm reading it correctly, it looks like

No. 2: Robert Quinn
No. 1: J.J. Watt
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:03 PM   #28
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I like how they don't outright say it, but mention the Super Bowl loss as if that were a factor. Using that as a barometer how could Watt be #1 when they had the worst record?

Manning should have been #1, and I would say that no matter who he played for after the season he just had.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:05 PM   #29
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I like how they don't outright say it, but mention the Super Bowl loss as if that were a factor. Using that as a barometer how could Watt be #1 when they had the worst record?

Manning should have been #1, and I would say that no matter who he played for after the season he just had.
Agreed. So PFF thinks that Watt and Quinn had better years at DE than Manning had at QB? Seriously? Quinn and Watt are ballers, but seriously?
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:36 PM   #30
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Manning #3? DT drops after a career year?
WTF is this nonsense?
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:42 PM   #31
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Didn't have his best game in the Super Bowl. That's one way of putting it.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:45 PM   #32
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These lists are stupid and anybody getting worked up about them is wasting their time.

Manning not being #1 is pretty hilarious, though.
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Old 05-16-2014, 02:07 PM   #33
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Peyton is the only QB in the top 40. PFF does not like them.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:39 PM   #34
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You all understand that these rankings are based on the summation of the individual scores assessed to each player for each game, right? How the team performed as a whole doesn't factor into this.

This is why Von Miller getting on this list is impressive. He gets no extrapolated credit for missing games. So making this list in only 9 games is pretty nuts.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:44 PM   #35
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100 divided by 32 = 3 players per team on average

If we have 8 players in the top 100 that is amazing in this highly competitive business. And we have John Elway to thank for that almost unbelievable accomplishment.

Now the question must be asked; Who was better at his position, John the QB or John the GM?
Until John the GM gets a Super Bowl, John the player.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:18 PM   #36
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Guys, this PFF list is a complete joke. I tossed it out when they ranked Josh Gordon like 40ish or whatever something. Calvin Johnson was 30 something.
It is only supposed to be statistically speaking for the 2013 season, but its a joke.

Marshawn Lynch a top 10 overall NFL player?

Give me a ****ing break.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:05 AM   #37
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Marshawn Lynch a top 10 overall NFL player?

Give me a ****ing break.
Yeah, that one made me lol.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:11 AM   #38
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Manning #3? No words can describe how moronic that is.
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Old 05-17-2014, 05:23 PM   #39
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#64 - Chris Harris Jr, CB, Denver Broncos (64th in 2012)
The Broncos were dealt a severe blow when Harris went down halfway through the Divisional Playoff victory against the San Diego Chargers. They lost their best and most versatile cover corner who was having another stellar year. With the rare ability to cover outside receivers on early downs and switch to defending the two-way release of slot weapons in nickel and dime packages, Harris earns a repeat spot on this list.

Key Stat: Allowed just one reception for every 10.9 snaps in slot coverage. Seventh-best of all cornerbacks.
Not a big fan of PFF's rating system, but I agree Harris was Denver's best CB last year.
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Old 05-17-2014, 05:27 PM   #40
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So where is the list of Broncos that made the top 100?
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wasn't there a list being made by NFL players?
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Old 05-17-2014, 05:31 PM   #42
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wasn't there a list being made by NFL players?

Ya that one/
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DRC didn't even make the list? Didn't PFF themselves grade him out as like the third best corner in coverage last year?
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:04 PM   #44
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DRC didn't even make the list? Didn't PFF themselves grade him out as like the third best corner in coverage last year?
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#36 - DRC
It's on the 1st page. Didn't include it in the OP, because he's not a Bronco anymore.
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:43 PM   #45
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It's on the 1st page. Didn't include it in the OP, because he's not a Bronco anymore.
ok, I either misread Harris' write up or it doesn't make sense because I thought it said Harris was Denver's best/most versatile cover corner yet rated him 28 spots below DRC? weird.
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Old 05-18-2014, 08:15 PM   #46
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Julius will obviously be on it.
Yea, the second best TE in the league last year not being on the list is a joke...along with Peyton being #3.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:38 AM   #47
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If Von Miller plays all 16 games this season he will end up in the top 10 - he is one of the 3 best defensive players and will be in the defensive player of the year debate again.
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