PFF's top 101 of 2013 (Broncos) - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

ShiftyEyedWaterboy · 05-16-2014, 11:52 AM

Who the hell are 1 and 2 gonna be if Manning is 3?!?

mennonite · 05-16-2014, 11:57 AM

if I'm reading it correctly, it looks like

No. 2: Robert Quinn
No. 1: J.J. Watt

Rabb · 05-16-2014, 12:03 PM

I like how they don't outright say it, but mention the Super Bowl loss as if that were a factor. Using that as a barometer how could Watt be #1 when they had the worst record?

Manning should have been #1, and I would say that no matter who he played for after the season he just had.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy · 05-16-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

I like how they don't outright say it, but mention the Super Bowl loss as if that were a factor. Using that as a barometer how could Watt be #1 when they had the worst record?

Manning should have been #1, and I would say that no matter who he played for after the season he just had.

Agreed. So PFF thinks that Watt and Quinn had better years at DE than Manning had at QB? Seriously? Quinn and Watt are ballers, but seriously?

IndelibleScribe · 05-16-2014, 12:36 PM

Manning #3? DT drops after a career year?
WTF is this nonsense?

Dr. Broncenstein · 05-16-2014, 12:42 PM

Didn't have his best game in the Super Bowl. That's one way of putting it.

Shananahan · 05-16-2014, 12:45 PM

These lists are stupid and anybody getting worked up about them is wasting their time.

Manning not being #1 is pretty hilarious, though.

Arkie · 05-16-2014, 01:07 PM

Peyton is the only QB in the top 40. PFF does not like them.

USMCBladerunner · 05-16-2014, 04:39 PM

You all understand that these rankings are based on the summation of the individual scores assessed to each player for each game, right? How the team performed as a whole doesn't factor into this.

This is why Von Miller getting on this list is impressive. He gets no extrapolated credit for missing games. So making this list in only 9 games is pretty nuts.

Bronc0guy · 05-16-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

100 divided by 32 = 3 players per team on average

If we have 8 players in the top 100 that is amazing in this highly competitive business. And we have John Elway to thank for that almost unbelievable accomplishment.

Now the question must be asked; Who was better at his position, John the QB or John the GM?

Until John the GM gets a Super Bowl, John the player.

TheChamp24 · 05-16-2014, 10:18 PM

Guys, this PFF list is a complete joke. I tossed it out when they ranked Josh Gordon like 40ish or whatever something. Calvin Johnson was 30 something.
It is only supposed to be statistically speaking for the 2013 season, but its a joke.

Marshawn Lynch a top 10 overall NFL player?

Give me a ****ing break.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy · 05-17-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp24

Marshawn Lynch a top 10 overall NFL player?

Give me a ****ing break.

Yeah, that one made me lol.

NorCalBronco7 · 05-17-2014, 09:11 AM

Manning #3? No words can describe how moronic that is.

BroncosfanGuy · 05-17-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

#64 - Chris Harris Jr, CB, Denver Broncos (64th in 2012)
The Broncos were dealt a severe blow when Harris went down halfway through the Divisional Playoff victory against the San Diego Chargers. They lost their best and most versatile cover corner who was having another stellar year. With the rare ability to cover outside receivers on early downs and switch to defending the two-way release of slot weapons in nickel and dime packages, Harris earns a repeat spot on this list.

Key Stat: Allowed just one reception for every 10.9 snaps in slot coverage. Seventh-best of all cornerbacks.

Not a big fan of PFF's rating system, but I agree Harris was Denver's best CB last year.

baja · 05-17-2014, 04:27 PM

So where is the list of Broncos that made the top 100?

Rascal · 05-17-2014, 04:28 PM

wasn't there a list being made by NFL players?

baja · 05-17-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

wasn't there a list being made by NFL players?

Ya that one/

extralife · 05-17-2014, 04:55 PM

DRC didn't even make the list? Didn't PFF themselves grade him out as like the third best corner in coverage last year?

pricejj · 05-17-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

DRC didn't even make the list? Didn't PFF themselves grade him out as like the third best corner in coverage last year?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj

#36 - DRC

It's on the 1st page. Didn't include it in the OP, because he's not a Bronco anymore.

BroncosfanGuy · 05-17-2014, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj

It's on the 1st page. Didn't include it in the OP, because he's not a Bronco anymore.

ok, I either misread Harris' write up or it doesn't make sense because I thought it said Harris was Denver's best/most versatile cover corner yet rated him 28 spots below DRC? weird.

LRtagger · 05-18-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LRtagger

Julius will obviously be on it.

Yea, the second best TE in the league last year not being on the list is a joke...along with Peyton being #3.

gyldenlove · 05-18-2014, 11:38 PM

If Von Miller plays all 16 games this season he will end up in the top 10 - he is one of the 3 best defensive players and will be in the defensive player of the year debate again.

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05-16-2014, 11:52 AM	#26
ShiftyEyedWaterboy Ring of Famer RIP Mr. Hockey Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Littleton Posts: 2,172 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Perna	Who the hell are 1 and 2 gonna be if Manning is 3?!?

05-16-2014, 11:57 AM	#27
mennonite Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	if I'm reading it correctly, it looks like No. 2: Robert Quinn No. 1: J.J. Watt

05-16-2014, 12:03 PM	#28
Rabb Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9,695	I like how they don't outright say it, but mention the Super Bowl loss as if that were a factor. Using that as a barometer how could Watt be #1 when they had the worst record? Manning should have been #1, and I would say that no matter who he played for after the season he just had.

05-16-2014, 12:36 PM	#30
IndelibleScribe Oreo Lucian Rockefeller Commitment or Fear Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 30,622	Manning #3? DT drops after a career year? WTF is this nonsense?

05-16-2014, 12:42 PM	#31
Dr. Broncenstein Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 15,498 Adopt-a-Bronco: Trey Gowdy	Didn't have his best game in the Super Bowl. That's one way of putting it.

05-16-2014, 12:45 PM	#32
Shananahan #snakelife BLASTED Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 4,070	These lists are stupid and anybody getting worked up about them is wasting their time. Manning not being #1 is pretty hilarious, though.

05-16-2014, 01:07 PM	#33
Arkie Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,390 Adopt-a-Bronco: A.J. Derby	Peyton is the only QB in the top 40. PFF does not like them.

05-16-2014, 04:39 PM	#34
USMCBladerunner Ring of Famer "...we're making ways to win." Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Two weeks from everywhere Posts: 2,241 Adopt-a-Bronco: E. Sanders	You all understand that these rankings are based on the summation of the individual scores assessed to each player for each game, right? How the team performed as a whole doesn't factor into this. This is why Von Miller getting on this list is impressive. He gets no extrapolated credit for missing games. So making this list in only 9 games is pretty nuts.

05-16-2014, 10:18 PM	#36
TheChamp24 Future HOF...CHAMP BAILEY The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 5,537	Guys, this PFF list is a complete joke. I tossed it out when they ranked Josh Gordon like 40ish or whatever something. Calvin Johnson was 30 something. It is only supposed to be statistically speaking for the 2013 season, but its a joke. Marshawn Lynch a top 10 overall NFL player? Give me a ****ing break.

05-17-2014, 09:11 AM	#38
NorCalBronco7 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 927 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Manning #3? No words can describe how moronic that is.

05-17-2014, 04:27 PM	#40
baja Headmaster "Win from now on" - Elway Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in the present moment Posts: 69,065 Adopt-a-Bronco: Leo-TailGateNut	So where is the list of Broncos that made the top 100?

05-17-2014, 04:28 PM	#41
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 17,945 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	wasn't there a list being made by NFL players?

05-17-2014, 04:55 PM	#43
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,795	DRC didn't even make the list? Didn't PFF themselves grade him out as like the third best corner in coverage last year?

05-18-2014, 11:38 PM	#47
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Næstved, DK Posts: 12,099 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	If Von Miller plays all 16 games this season he will end up in the top 10 - he is one of the 3 best defensive players and will be in the defensive player of the year debate again.