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Old 04-30-2014, 04:14 PM   #76
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I do not see Clowney busting. Especially not on the Texans.
I don't see him busting outright, but I don't see him living up to the hype or potential he has.
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Old 04-30-2014, 04:16 PM   #77
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I think Clowney will be a great player. For a year, barring injury. After the first year I can see him being perpetually nicked up. A game here and there he'll be great. Just enough to keep teams interest up so that when his first contract is up he'll still have that great promise he's shown off and on.
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If the Texans take Clowney with with #1 pick I may laugh so hard that I hurt myself. Dude is going to be a bust of epic proportions...
The talent is too good to bust.

Clowney and Watt on the same defense would be illegal.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:34 PM   #79
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The talent is too good to bust.

Clowney and Watt on the same defense would be illegal.
The guy had one great season in college, and only managed three sacks last season. Not only can he bust it appears very likely to me. Raw talent alone doesn't mean jack in the NFL.
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If the Texans take Clowney with with #1 pick I may laugh so hard that I hurt myself. Dude is going to be a bust of epic proportions...
This would be somewhere in the Jamarcus Russell, Todd Marinovich class. I don't see that happening with Clowney. Especially if he goes to a franchise that has a modicum of an idea how to build around and coach players--a team like Atlanta or even Houston.

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I do not think Clowney will be able to live up to the hype in the same way I do not believe Andrew Luck will be able to.
I think both will have stellar careers. But the hype is so enormous that it will be impossible to live up to without winning 3-4 super bowls and making the pro bowl every year.

I see Clowney as a game changing 12+ sack player you always have to account for.
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:37 PM   #82
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:51 PM   #83
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If the Texans take Clowney with with #1 pick I may laugh so hard that I hurt myself. Dude is going to be a bust of epic proportions...
Give us some idea of what you're predicting here. Stats, etc.
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Just saw the NFL Channel ticker and it quoted Ozzie Newsome as saying that he has fielded several calls from teams inquiring about their #17 pick, and they could use more picks this year.

It didn't mention any names, so I don't know if the Broncos are one of them, but if Elway wanted to move up that would be a possibility. #17 would give the Broncos many options to choose from rather than settling for possible scraps left over at #31.

According to the NFL value chart, fair value to move up 14 spots would be our 2nd, 4th, & 5th round picks. I don't know that Elway would do it particularly in this deep draft, but it is a possibility and doable if he wanted to.

I would assume Mosley or one of the stud CB's would be available there at #17, but the question is, are they worth giving up 3 picks to get them?
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Just saw the NFL Channel ticker and it quoted Ozzie Newsome as saying that he has fielded several calls from teams inquiring about their #17 pick, and they could use more picks this year.

It didn't mention any names, so I don't know if the Broncos are one of them, but if Elway wanted to move up that would be a possibility. #17 would give the Broncos many options to choose from rather than settling for possible scraps left over at #31.

According to the NFL value chart, fair value to move up 14 spots would be our 2nd, 4th, & 5th round picks. I don't know that Elway would do it particularly in this deep draft, but it is a possibility and doable if he wanted to.

I would assume Mosley or one of the stud CB's would be available there at #17, but the question is, are they worth giving up 3 picks to get them?

I would say no. We might be able to get Phillip Gaines at 31 and he might be the best CB in the draft. The top 6 guys are all kind of the same to me, Gilbert, Dennard, Fuller, Verrett, Roby, and Gaines.

As for Mobley, no also. I don't think he's worth moving up for. Shazier, yes, but I think the Giants take him at #12.

There's a good chance Su'a-Filo falls to us, and he's an elite prospect to me, I'd rather keep our picks, draft him, and plug him in 2015 after Franklin leaves.
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Just saw the NFL Channel ticker and it quoted Ozzie Newsome as saying that he has fielded several calls from teams inquiring about their #17 pick, and they could use more picks this year.

It didn't mention any names, so I don't know if the Broncos are one of them, but if Elway wanted to move up that would be a possibility. #17 would give the Broncos many options to choose from rather than settling for possible scraps left over at #31.

According to the NFL value chart, fair value to move up 14 spots would be our 2nd, 4th, & 5th round picks. I don't know that Elway would do it particularly in this deep draft, but it is a possibility and doable if he wanted to.

I would assume Mosley or one of the stud CB's would be available there at #17, but the question is, are they worth giving up 3 picks to get them?
I can never get interested in news like this. It is always so strange to be hearing rumors about a trade into the teens, weeks before the draft when there is no idea of what player or players would be available.

Our draft is in a bit of a quandary this season. The draft is very deep, but this team doesn't have a lot of open slots on the roster. A 5th rounder that normally would make the team as a backup or bench warmer will be cut because there is no room on the roster. So it becomes the issue, do we trade up in a deep draft since accumulating picks is not a wise investment.
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Just saw the NFL Channel ticker and it quoted Ozzie Newsome as saying that he has fielded several calls from teams inquiring about their #17 pick, and they could use more picks this year.

It didn't mention any names, so I don't know if the Broncos are one of them, but if Elway wanted to move up that would be a possibility. #17 would give the Broncos many options to choose from rather than settling for possible scraps left over at #31.

According to the NFL value chart, fair value to move up 14 spots would be our 2nd, 4th, & 5th round picks. I don't know that Elway would do it particularly in this deep draft, but it is a possibility and doable if he wanted to.

I would assume Mosley or one of the stud CB's would be available there at #17, but the question is, are they worth giving up 3 picks to get them?
That is too many picks and too much value to give up for a 14 spot move in this draft.
There is a reason why so many team cannot move down.
The draft value charts do not matter in this draft.
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That is too many picks and too much value to give up for a 14 spot move in this draft.
There is a reason why so many team cannot move down.
The draft value charts do not matter in this draft.
I agree, may be just the right year to move up for your guy, because no way you should be giving up your 1st, 2nd and 3rd or 4th to move up.

A 1st, 3rd should be plenty depending on the desired location.
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If we give up our entire draft to move up for Mosley, I am going to have a Req style meltdown.

MUG, Gaines may be the best CB in the draft, time will tell, but he will probably be there in the second, why reach @31?
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Isn't Gaines the kid who has played like 12 games in the last two years due to injury and subsequently was suspended for this years home opener? Seems like a better fit for a Tampa 2 scheme than anything, not us.
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port: Bucs willing (or maybe eager) to trade Mike Glennon
Posted by Darin Gantt on May 1, 2014, 12:36 PM EDT
AP The Buccaneers signed quarterback Josh McCown this offseason, and might draft a future starter next week.
Which means they have a gently used former third-rounder, which could be yours for the price of less than that.
According to Adam Caplan of ESPN, the Bucs are willing to trade quarterback Mike Glennon.
Last year’s third-round pick started 13 games, and was not awful. There were stretches when he looked downright competent, so someone who valued him a year ago might be willing to part with something to bring him in at a reduced rate.
The Bucs have been mentioned as a possible landing spot for Johnny Manziel, so with McCown already on hand for short-term cover, Glennon would be extraneous.
The Bucs could also stand to add some picks, as they’re short a fourth-rounder (the remnants of the Darrelle Revis trade).

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Dominque Easley moving up



Damn, I seriously want him in a Broncos uniform.
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Did you guys know Shembo (Notre Dame) made a girl kill herself?
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Did you guys know Shembo (Notre Dame) made a girl kill herself?
Dude has 4th-5th round talent, but is probably going undrafted because of his past.
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Dude has 4th-5th round talent, but is probably going undrafted because of his past.
Just read about 5 articles today. This guy is evil.
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Did you guys know Shembo (Notre Dame) made a girl kill herself?
He "allegedly" assaulted her. It was never proven he did and she took her own life after.
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I can never get interested in news like this. It is always so strange to be hearing rumors about a trade into the teens, weeks before the draft when there is no idea of what player or players would be available.

Our draft is in a bit of a quandary this season. The draft is very deep, but this team doesn't have a lot of open slots on the roster. A 5th rounder that normally would make the team as a backup or bench warmer will be cut because there is no room on the roster. So it becomes the issue, do we trade up in a deep draft since accumulating picks is not a wise investment.
I think the Broncos have 7 open spots on their roster.

1. Starting Nickel LB (nobody on the roster)
2. 3LCB, and 3RCB (only 4 CB's on the roster, remember Bolden moved to Safety)
3. 3RDE (if Quant Smith can't come back from injury)
4. LB Reserve (unless you think Brandon Marshall or Lerentee McCray are good enough to fill that role if Trev is hurt)
5. 5WR (probably need someone who can replace Welker next year)
6. At least one more OL reserve (who could replace Franklin next year)
7. another RB
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Not a fan of moving up but wonder if Elway thinks Barr might be able to play in the middle , or moving trevathan to MLB and Barr to WLB. Many feeling Barr is sliding into 15-25 range.
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Not a fan of moving up but wonder if Elway thinks Barr might be able to play in the middle , or moving trevathan to MLB and Barr to WLB. Many feeling Barr is sliding into 15-25 range.
I would think Elway has more of a feeling that Barr is Ware's replacement than a MLB.
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I just want to know if there are going to be any meltdowns if the Broncos draft Bitonio at #31. I'm giving myself a 50% chance of going ballistic if that happens. I guess it depends on which way the wind is blowing that day.
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