The Chiefs suck - Page 172 - The Orange Mane

KCStud · 04-23-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandftw

Hate to agree with you, but you're right. There is also a shortage of QB's. So teams without one are going to be willing to overpay to sign one as we saw what a difference KC's team was when they swapped out Cassel for Smith.

I don't think Smith's in the Top 10, but he's definitely in the Top 15, and that's going to lead to someone overpaying him. If you're a Chiefs fan, just have to hope it's not KC

Any decent QB in the top half of the league will get overpaid. That's just the way it is nowadays.

Paladin · 04-23-2014, 02:37 PM

Yep. KC still sucks. I think it's in the Bible.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

So all those 3rd downs they failed to convert in the 4th quarter is not on Smith? I know once Charles went down they lost their major offensive weapon but they didn't miss him getting and adding to that 28 point 3rd quarter lead.

After kFc's last TD they had the following:

Fumble
Punt
FG
Punt
FG
Downs

Sure the NFL's Dominant D imploded late but they also came up with 4 turnovers. Without those turnovers it would have been a major blowout by Indy once they got rolling.

Thing is with the D in flames when kFc needed to answer TD after TD by Indy all they could muster were 2 FG's and only 3 points in the entire 4th Quarter but Smith did great right?

Hell if Denver scored 44 points in the SB they would have won!

Looks to me like Alex Smith was pretty solid on tough 3rd down situations last year.

Drunken.Broncoholic2 · 05-01-2014, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Looks to me like Alex Smith was pretty solid on tough 3rd down situations last year.

And yet KC was 27th in the league on 3rd down conversions.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...irdDownConvPct

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2

And yet KC was 27th in the league on 3rd down conversions.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...irdDownConvPct

How much of that is on Alex again? This also doesn't take I to account the several 3rd downs he converted with his feet.

But keep trying to degrade him. He's not elite, but last year he showed a hell of a lot.
Also remember folks here saying Reid was overrated with QB's. Adding Alex Smith's year last year to what he's already done proves that notion as laughable.

Drunken.Broncoholic2 · 05-01-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

How much of that is on Alex again? This also doesn't take I to account the several 3rd downs he converted with his feet.

But keep trying to degrade him. He's not elite, but last year he showed a hell of a lot.
Also remember folks here saying Reid was overrated with QB's. Adding Alex Smith's year last year to what he's already done proves that notion as laughable.

I'm pointing out a statistical fact. You just went into an insecure rant about your team.

Alex looked better with Harbaugh than Singletary. And yet his last full year( and the one he lost his job) SF was horrible in 3rd down conversions too. Different team same result.

Shananahan · 05-01-2014, 10:28 AM

It's almost like his limitations make it easier for defenses to stop him in those situations.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2

I'm pointing out a statistical fact. You just went into an insecure rant about your team.

Alex looked better with Harbaugh than Singletary. And yet his last full year( and the one he lost his job) SF was horrible in 3rd down conversions too. Different team same result.

So that means he's a bad QB? Bc I remember him winning a lot of games with 2 different teams.

Are you suggesting it's impossible to win anything with him as QB?

Kaylore · 05-01-2014, 10:34 AM

No one said Reid was overrated with QB's last year. Everyone was saying the opposite. Another example of Sheepstud fabricating to pretend Bronco fans aren't smarter than him.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Shananahan

It's almost like his limitations make it easier for defenses to stop him in those situations.

It's almost as if Manning throwing INT's and pick 6's in playoffs make it easier for teams to stop him.

Drunken.Broncoholic2 · 05-01-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

It's almost as if Manning throwing INT's and pick 6's in playoffs make it easier for teams to stop him.

Look at him get mad.

Changing the subject. Relax. It's just one team stat led by an individual over a few years. Not the end of the world

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2

Look at him get mad.

Changing the subject. Relax. It's just one team stat led by an individual over a few years. Not the end of the world

Who is mad? I love turning those statements back on Brokeback fans!

Rabb · 05-01-2014, 10:54 AM

Just let him have this. Fine, he was good on 3rd down with 9+ to go...great job. Now go back to clinging to bull**** and enjoy the upcoming failure again.

TheReverend · 05-01-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

Just let him have this. Fine, he was good on 3rd down with 9+ to go...great job. Now go back to clinging to bull**** and enjoy the upcoming failure again.

At the end of the day, all that matters is completion % on 3rd down and very specifically with 9+ yards to go.

Rabb · 05-01-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

At the end of the day, all that matters is completion % on 3rd down and very specifically with 9+ yards to go.

Hey, I am not taking away from it...clearly the stats don't lie.

Guess Who · 05-01-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

How much of that is on Alex again? This also doesn't take I to account the several 3rd downs he converted with his feet.

But keep trying to degrade him. He's not elite, but last year he showed a hell of a lot.
Also remember folks here saying Reid was overrated with QB's. Adding Alex Smith's year last year to what he's already done proves that notion as laughable.

I am glad you are happy with him. I really am. I hope Reid likes him as much as you do. I hope you keep putting off drafting a Franchise QB until Smith retires at the age of 40.

This would ensure that the chiefs would still not have won a playoff game.

Shananahan · 05-01-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Who is mad? I love turning those statements back on Brokeback fans!

You never took debate in high school, did you?

Guess Who · 05-01-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shananahan

You never took debate in high school, did you?

He was known as the MasterDebater by his family.

Peoples Champ · 05-01-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Guess Who

I am glad you are happy with him. I really am. I hope Reid likes him as much as you do. I hope you keep putting off drafting a Franchise QB until Smith retires at the age of 40.

This would ensure that the chiefs would still not have won a playoff game.

KCdud you did make good points about Alex Smith, and he is good but not elite. But i hate to say it but im gonna agree with this post, i really dont see Alex Smith winning a playoff game for the Chiefs ever. He did in San Fran, but they had an elite defense, and the Chiefs defense is not elite.

GreatBronco16 · 05-01-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peoples Champ

and the Chiefs defense is not elite.

You watch your mouth. The Iefs defense is better than the 2000 Ravens, and their first 3 games prove that.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peoples Champ

KCdud you did make good points about Alex Smith, and he is good but not elite. But i hate to say it but im gonna agree with this post, i really dont see Alex Smith winning a playoff game for the Chiefs ever. He did in San Fran, but they had an elite defense, and the Chiefs defense is not elite.

Its okay because I don't see the Broncos winning a SB with that overrated defense either.

LikeABoss5820 · 05-01-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Its okay because I don't see the Broncos winning a SB with that overrated defense either.

No one says our defense is all that great though

Drunken.Broncoholic2 · 05-01-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Its okay because I don't see the Broncos winning a SB with that overrated defense either.

What defense is that? The one that has 9 new starters playing that didnt in the Super Bowl? That's 9 out of 11. But feel free to think they the same players.

Whether they become great players remains to be seen in the fall. But at least this team did something about it. Have fun with the idiot cannonball in joe mays though.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2

What defense is that? The one that has 9 new starters playing that didnt in the Super Bowl? That's 9 out of 11. But feel free to think they the same players.

Whether they become great players remains to be seen in the fall. But at least this team did something about it. Have fun with the idiot cannonball in joe mays though.

same thing with us. Flowers, Hali, Houston all severely hurt in that playoff game.

Sanders Commings (better athletically than the top safeties in this class) was a legit 2nd round pick last year but fell due to an off the field incident.
Vance Walker with 43 total QB pressures last year (basically 5X more pressures than Jackson)

Whether they become great players remains to be seen, as well as draft picks from this class.

Btw-have fun with Rahim the dream.

KCStud · 05-01-2014, 04:06 PM

Acc%: Deep Passing

The Top 10

Deep Accuracy gives a good indication of which quarterbacks were most accurate challenging defenses downfield and, with a big start in limited action in Houston, Case Keenum tops the list with a Deep Acc% of 53.1%. Rodgers is once again amongst the best here, as the only quarterback other than Keenum to finish above 50%. Super Bowl QBs Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning round out the Top 5 along with the surprise inclusion of Kellen Clemens.

Name Team Deep Acc. %
Case Keenum HST 53.1%
Aaron Rodgers GB 52.8%
Russell Wilson SEA 48.3%
Peyton Manning DEN 48.2%
Kellen Clemens STL 48.0%
Matt Cassel MIN 47.4%
Geno Smith NYJ 46.7%
Alex D. Smith KC 46.3%
Matthew McGloin OAK 45.7%
Mike Glennon TB 45.0%

Top 10 in deep passing accuracy? But, but Alex can't throw deep!

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04-23-2014, 02:37 PM	#4277
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,439	Yep. KC still sucks. I think it's in the Bible.

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Shananahan Custom User Title Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,767	It's almost like his limitations make it easier for defenses to stop him in those situations.

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Kaylore 4 time AFCW Champs 12 straight road division wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 47,644 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	No one said Reid was overrated with QB's last year. Everyone was saying the opposite. Another example of Sheepstud fabricating to pretend Bronco fans aren't smarter than him.

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Rabb No Luca, No! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,034 Adopt-a-Bronco: Dynamite Monkey	Just let him have this. Fine, he was good on 3rd down with 9+ to go...great job. Now go back to clinging to bull**** and enjoy the upcoming failure again.

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KCStud Ring of Famer AmeriStanzi! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6,315 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Acc%: Deep Passing The Top 10 Deep Accuracy gives a good indication of which quarterbacks were most accurate challenging defenses downfield and, with a big start in limited action in Houston, Case Keenum tops the list with a Deep Acc% of 53.1%. Rodgers is once again amongst the best here, as the only quarterback other than Keenum to finish above 50%. Super Bowl QBs Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning round out the Top 5 along with the surprise inclusion of Kellen Clemens. Name Team Deep Acc. % Case Keenum HST 53.1% Aaron Rodgers GB 52.8% Russell Wilson SEA 48.3% Peyton Manning DEN 48.2% Kellen Clemens STL 48.0% Matt Cassel MIN 47.4% Geno Smith NYJ 46.7% Alex D. Smith KC 46.3% Matthew McGloin OAK 45.7% Mike Glennon TB 45.0% Top 10 in deep passing accuracy? But, but Alex can't throw deep! https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...age-breakdown/