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Old 04-14-2014, 10:44 AM   #1451
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Would be nice if Duke developed where we can use 3 safeties, and have Ward as the Joker like KC uses Berry and Sea uses Kam as the nickel LB.

It's a need, yes, but nothing massive.
I think that if Deone Buccannon is available I'd jump to the stage with his name on the card.
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I don't want to play three safeties unless we upgrade our third, Pryor, Ward, Buccanon and bring Ward down, then maybe. As the roster stands now, no thanks.

The best solution is still to add a coverage LB.
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:15 AM   #1453
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I think that if Deone Buccannon is available I'd jump to the stage with his name on the card.
In the 2nd?

Depends where we go in the 1st.
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:28 AM   #1454
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Would be nice if Duke developed where we can use 3 safeties, and have Ward as the Joker like KC uses Berry and Sea uses Kam as the nickel LB.

It's a need, yes, but nothing massive.
This is spot on with what I've been thinking... This would make HaHa or Pryor a great pick as well. Haha/Pryor, The Dream, Ward, Talib, Harris, Trevathon, Von, Ware, Sly/Vick, Pot Roast, Wolfe. Try passing against that..... kick Wolfe in for Pot Roast and bring in Malik or Q on the edge. Yikes.....
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:41 AM   #1455
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This is spot on with what I've been thinking... This would make HaHa or Pryor a great pick as well. Haha/Pryor, The Dream, Ward, Talib, Harris, Trevathon, Von, Ware, Sly/Vick, Pot Roast, Wolfe. Try passing against that..... kick Wolfe in for Pot Roast and bring in Malik or Q on the edge. Yikes.....
Vickerson doesnt offer any pass rush, he's pretty much a 2-down DT which is fine.

On that, i would try.

Ware-Malik-Knighton-Miller

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Duke was a liability in coverage last year, why would that all of a sudden change? Nickel packages are suppose to be stout against the pass, because it's an extra DB and the DLine is lighter with pass rushers.

If we are going to play with an extra Safety and Corner, then I think it's important that we upgrade those positions, especially Safety.
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Wouldnt sleep on Boyett.

We COULD use better safety depth but nothing early (top 3 rounds)
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Wouldnt sleep on Boyett.

We COULD use better safety depth but nothing early (top 3 rounds)
You want to play three safeties and think Duke or Boyett are the answer..
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You want to play three safeties and think Duke or Boyett are the answer..
Never said i want too, this is if we dont get another ILB to go with Danny.

And if Duke develops.

Could take Duke out and go with a 5-man line.
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You want to play three safeties and think Duke or Boyett are the answer..
I personally don't want to see Nacho anywhere on the field unless he is on kickoff coverage.
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Never said i want too, this is if we dont get another ILB to go with Danny.

And if Duke develops.

Could take Duke out and go with a 5-man line.
That's not ideal for coverage..
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I personally don't want to see Nacho anywhere on the field unless he is on kickoff coverage.
String Safeties aren't coverage players traditionally.

That includes Ward. Yet people continue to think he is the answer to covering TEs and will solve our coverage woes from Safety.

If we want to play 3 safeties we need to draft a FS/SS tweener, Pryor, Dix, Ward, or Bucannon.

Otherwise we need a nickel coverage LB.
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You don't want Trent Boyett in coverage.
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That's not ideal for coverage..
Moore, Ward, Harris, Talib, Webster is fine.

Trev can cover TE's.
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Moore, Ward, Harris, Talib, Webster is fine.

Trev can cover TE's.
It depends on their personnel.. That sounds good in theory but it's about matchups.

We are in nickel often, so we either need an upgrade at Safety, CB, or LB.
I expect to see upgrades at all three, with Safety being the wild card.
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It depends on their personnel.. That sounds good in theory but it's about matchups.

We are in nickel often, so we either need an upgrade at Safety, CB, or LB.
I expect to see upgrades at all three, with Safety being the wild card.
Safety cant really upgrade at all over Rahim.

CB needs better depth.

LB depends who is there, or if they like Shazier or the unexpected if Mosely falls to 31.
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String Safeties aren't coverage players traditionally.

That includes Ward. Yet people continue to think he is the answer to covering TEs and will solve our coverage woes from Safety.

If we want to play 3 safeties we need to draft a FS/SS tweener, Pryor, Dix, Ward, or Bucannon.

Otherwise we need a nickel coverage LB.
Wasn't Ward pretty good on TE last year?
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Wasn't Ward pretty good on TE last year?
This is a misconception, he's physical on everybody, and is aggressive in his approach, solid in coverage, but considering he's facing below average TEs in the AFC North especially with Pitta out, he may have inflated his coverage stats.

He gives up plenty of catches, but he's tenacious in going after the player. Gronkowski was getting catches before Ward crushed his legs!

Ward is top notch, I love the signing, I just think that just because we signed him doesn't mean we signed our coverage woes, particularly against TEs.
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Safety cant really upgrade at all over Rahim.

CB needs better depth.

LB depends who is there, or if they like Shazier or the unexpected if Mosely falls to 31.
Safety can't really upgrade at all over Rahim..?

I really liked your takes until I read that..
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Interesting discussion yesterday regarding the Broncos MLber need with both Joel Klatt and Alfred Williams calling Mosley a outside LBer and Shazier an MLBer therefore a better fit for the Broncos but both love each player
Those guys have it completely backwards. Made me want to laugh listening to them.
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Those guys have it completely backwards. Made me want to laugh listening to them.
Who are they?
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Who are they?
It was on the Fan 104.3 FM, last Friday around 3:30pm, I believe (Alfred Williams and Dmac). They talk a lot about the Broncos and the draft, but they are pretty uninformed, and highly emotional when their guy doesn't get picked. Kind of like the Omane. Joel Klatt (former CU QB, now Fox Sports host), was on and they were discussing Shazier and Mosley. They were saying Shazier is a pure MLB "thumper", and Mosley was a WLB. Completely backwards.

IMO Shazier is not a natural MLB, because he has happy feet, and has admitted that coaching helped him with that this year. Though, I think Shazier is so athletic and coachable, that he can play and succeed at any LB position.
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It was on the Fan 104.3 FM, last Friday around 3:30pm, I believe (Alfred Williams and Dmac). They talk a lot about the Broncos and the draft, but they are pretty uninformed, and highly emotional when their guy doesn't get picked. Kind of like the Omane. Joel Klatt (former CU QB, now Fox Sports host), was on and they were discussing Shazier and Mosley. They were saying Shazier is a pure MLB "thumper", and Mosley was a WLB. Completely backwards.

IMO Shazier is not a natural MLB, because he has happy feet, and has admitted that coaching helped him with that this year. Though, I think Shazier is so athletic and coachable, that he can play and succeed at any LB position.
Are their different guys on at different times? Here in Baltimore the sports talk on 105.7 has different guys at different time slots. Each segment has their niche, and Vinny Cerrato former Redskins GM has the 10:00 - 2:00 segment, and he talks prospects, I think his evaluation skills are a joke. But he brags about loving Charles and wanting to take him. And all these player who turned out good he wanted and those who didn't, he knew it of course.
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It's absolutely sad that people listen to the Denver radio for information about the Broncos.
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Safety can't really upgrade at all over Rahim..?

I really liked your takes until I read that..
Who realistically can be an upgrade, i'm curious.

MAYBE Jimmie Ward.

But that would be a waste.
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