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Old 04-11-2014, 05:15 PM   #1401
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You think Shazier can play MLB?
Doesn't matter if he can or not. If he can't, Trevathan can.

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Old 04-11-2014, 05:16 PM   #1402
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DT may just be the strongest position on this team. As far as a combination of skill, depth, and youth.

I do like Hageman but wow, if your going to throw something like that out there at least give us a well thought out article.
For real, you cannot just say that and leave crickets in your wake.

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Well, Vickerson/Unrein are depth.

Knighton is a FA after the year and may or may not be kept, Sly looked good late.

I can understand a DT pick actually.
I want Hageman. I would have no issue with the Broncos taking him if he somehow fell.
My issue was with the nonsense of saying he was technically flawed but he got your Heisman vote.
That statement made no sense.

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What positions could a rookie "start" on this team?
MLB
OG or OC
DE
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RB & FS are other possibilities but I doubt they roust the incumbents from their positions.
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Doesn't mater if he can or not. If he can't, Trevathan can.
No, NO DAMMIT! NO!
No more damn plug a WLB into the MLB role.
Draft a legit damn MLB and play him.


I'm sorry, that was harsh. But I am tired of watching shouldn't be MLB's out there. Address the damn position correctly already.
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:21 PM   #1404
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As I said to Rev, Lestat.

No rookie is starting at RB or C in a PFM offense. There are going to be 4 combos tried at LG at least that are better than a rookie:
Clark, Franklin, Montgomery, Man Ram

MLB- Mosley otherwise your going with a thumper or a coverage guy in platoon fashion.

CB- Who's beating out Talib/Harris?

RDE- Ware, Q
LDE- Wolfe, Malik

FS I could see.
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:23 PM   #1405
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No, NO DAMMIT! NO!
No more damn plug a WLB into the MLB role.
Draft a legit damn MLB and play him.


I'm sorry, that was harsh. But I am tired of watching shouldn't be MLB's out there. Address the damn position correctly already.
Fast, half-field LB's are all that matter. 3-down MLB's are way too hard to find. You could literally wait 10 years trying to find one like the Broncos have. Slow, mid-round MLB's are liabilities and just not worth the draft pick anymore.
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Fast, half-field LB's are all that matter. 3-down MLB's are way too hard to find. You could literally wait 10 years trying to find one like the Broncos have. Slow, mid-round MLB's are liabilities and just not worth the draft pick anymore.
Or you draft one of the fast middle round half field LBs.
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That being said, I really hope Hageman, Jernigan, Nix, and Ford are all picked before #31. Greatly increases the chances for a guy to drop, who could actually start on this team.
The only positions that could start are LG, MLB, and thats about it.

I'd love Ford at 31.
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A really good one?

OL
MLB
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OL/MLB, yes.

A CB isnt starting over Talib or Harris.

Same with DE and Ware or Wolfe/Jackson.

Not many RB's if any will start over Ball.
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The only positions that could start are LG, MLB, and thats about it.

I'd love Ford at 31.
I don't see LG, and unless it's Mosley I don't see MLB.
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I want Hageman. I would have no issue with the Broncos taking him if he somehow fell.
My issue was with the nonsense of saying he was technically flawed but he got your Heisman vote.
That statement made no sense.
Oh, ok.

Yeah, i can see DT in the 1st depending if Hageman or Jernigan were there, possibly even Nix too.
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I don't see LG, and unless it's Mosley I don't see MLB.
Shazier?

LG, there are a number of guys out there.
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LG, there are a number of guys out there.
Nope don't see a rookie LG beating out Clark, Franklin, Montgomery, or Man Ram.

So you also think Shazier can play MLB.
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Nope don't see a rookie LG beating out Clark, Franklin, Montgomery, or Man Ram.

So you also think Shazier can play MLB.
I don't see a rookie having any problems beating out Man Ram or Clark at LG.
Clark is a T and IMO the 3rd best one we have on the roster.
Man Ram is not a good OG, Franklin I still do not believe is moving from RT.

Su'a-Filo,Yankey,Jackson are all guys I could easily see starting at LG for us and not just after a few regular season games.
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Or you draft one of the fast middle round half field LBs.
Like who other than Williamson? Everybody else I see is too slow or not enough production.
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Like who other than Williamson? Everybody else I see is too slow or not enough production.
I'm partial to Zumwalt or Bullough for MLB if we don't get Mosley.
With that said. I would rather just have Mosley and call it a position.
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Like who other than Williamson? Everybody else I see is too slow or not enough production.
Jones, Telvin Smith, Tripp, Pierre-Louis
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I don't see a rookie having any problems beating out Man Ram or Clark at LG.
Clark is a T and IMO the 3rd best one we have on the roster.
Man Ram is not a good OG, Franklin I still do not believe is moving from RT.

Su'a-Filo,Yankey,Jackson are all guys I could easily see starting at LG for us and not just after a few regular season games.
Well Justice, Clark, Franklin, Painter will battle for RT. if anyone wins besides Franklin, I'm sure he will be playing LG.
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Nope don't see a rookie LG beating out Clark, Franklin, Montgomery, or Man Ram.

So you also think Shazier can play MLB.
Clark isnt playing LG, he's better suited as the 6th-OL, other 3 probably not.

Trev at MLB until Shazier fills out.
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Clark isnt playing LG, he's better suited as the 6th-OL, other 3 probably not.

Trev at MLB until Shazier fills out.
I like Clark as the swing tackle. I like Franklin at RT. But I could see a scenario where he is moved to LG. I just don't think a LG in the first round is better than trading back and still getting a LG.

I thought Trev could play MLB, and that could be an option if Shazier lasts until 31.
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We could also use Irving as a two down thumper, or sign a player in free agency. And then add a sub package speed guy in the middle rounds.
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Clark isnt playing LG, he's better suited as the 6th-OL, other 3 probably not.

Trev at MLB until Shazier fills out.
If the Broncos want to get the defense tougher the answer is Shazier, who is flat out nasty and a hitting machine, an Al Wilson type guy...if they want a three down guy Mosely might still be there.
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Trev at MLB until Shazier fills out.
putting an undersized will at mike hasn't worked the repeated times Denver has done it in the past why would Denver use a 1st rounder just to do it again? Shazier's game is based on his speed not his instincts so why would Denver draft him in the 1st, wait for him to add weight (and have Trev play out of position), and move him to a position he is ill-suited?
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If the Broncos want to get the defense tougher the answer is Shazier, who is flat out nasty and a hitting machine, an Al Wilson type guy...if they want a three down guy Mosely might still be there.
Shazier is more like Thomas Davis than Al Wilson imo.
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MLB
OG or OC
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CB

RB & FS are other possibilities but I doubt they roust the incumbents from their positions.
RB is definitely not happening. John Fox does not start rookie running backs.

And Peyton Manning would slap you upside the head for thinking a rookie Center would be starting with ManRam and Montegomary signings.
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I like Clark as the swing tackle. I like Franklin at RT. But I could see a scenario where he is moved to LG. I just don't think a LG in the first round is better than trading back and still getting a LG.

I thought Trev could play MLB, and that could be an option if Shazier lasts until 31.
I prefer to trade back given the depth of this draft.

He could move to LG but with adding Montgomery, it might of lessened his shot to move to G.

Not really sure where Shazier would play if we got him.
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