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Old 01-10-2014, 02:18 AM   #1
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Am curious for input from any of the more X's and O's fluent members of the Orange Mane as to whether Aaron Donald would be a fit in Denver's defense as it is currently constructed.... His career stats are mind-bending, but he'll be available with our 1st round pick and even possibly our second-round pick due to his height and weight.

He's obviously able to put pressure on from the middle, but can a 6' 0", 285-lb. DT play for us? Would he be successful in our system?

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2010: 11 tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2.0 sacks, 5 QBH
2011: 47 tackles, 16.0 TFL, 11.0 sacks, 11 QBH
2012: 64 tackles, 18.5 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 11 QBH
2013: 59 tackles, 28.5 TFL, 11.0 sacks, 16 QBH

Career Stats: 181 tackles, 66.0 TFL, 29.5 sacks, 43 QBH

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Old 01-10-2014, 02:41 AM   #2
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He's a good fit in the current role held by Wolfe in this scheme. He's a JDR type of DE that can move inside on passing downs. We have no idea what is going on with Wolfe's health right now. If he can't play again for some reason, Donald would be a nice replacement in the 2nd.
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He could have a role similar to what Charles Johnson did for the Panthers. Fox drafted him. I think he would be a great addition to our squad.
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I like what I've seen from him. Not sure about drafting DL with the first pick for the third year in a row when I think there are more pressing needs at MLB and DB
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I like what I've seen from him. Not sure about drafting DL with the first pick for the third year in a row when I think there are more pressing needs at MLB and DB
Unfortunately, one of those D-linemen (Wolfe) may have career-threatening medical problems. Plus, when you're picking at #32, you usually pick the BPA.
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I'd play him at 34 End in a one gap system kind of like Justin Smith. We use our 5 tech as a two gap, so I don't believe he fits with what we want to do. And you can't take a reserve/specialist type in the late 1st or even late 2nd IMO.
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I'd play him at 34 End in a one gap system kind of like Justin Smith. We use our 5 tech as a two gap, so I don't believe he fits with what we want to do. And you can't take a reserve/specialist type in the late 1st or even late 2nd IMO.
I don't think you are looking at him being drafted until the 4th or 5th round. He is on short side.
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I don't think you are looking at him being drafted until the 4th or 5th round. He is on short side.
I think he will be drafted quite highly by a team with an aggressive 1 gapping 34 or as a pass rushing UT for a 1 gapping 43. I doubt he lasts beyond the top 50.
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So this guy absolutely beasted in the Senior Bowl practice and game. Could he play RDE on running downs and moved to DC on passing down, which I believe is what malik Jackson is doing?
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So this guy absolutely beasted in the Senior Bowl practice and game. Could he play RDE on running downs and moved to DC on passing down, which I believe is what malik Jackson is doing?
Jackson was always a tweener in college though. They kept moving him around and he played both DT and DE at points for a season or more during his career.
Which was part of the reason I loved that pick.
Never geeked out so hard for a 5th round pick.

Donald looks like more of a lighter DT who can reek havoc on the interior and be a disruptive force.
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I'm still not sold on him. He did a GREAT job all week at the Senior Bowl, and he was great at Pitt, but he still hasn't gone against elite NFL interior blockers. The Senior Bowl was notoriously weak this year, and he had some of his least productive games against the ranked teams Pitt played this year (FSU, Duke, and Notre Dame).

He's getting comps to Geno Atkins, but Geno is insanely strong. I'll have to see how powerful Donald is, right now, he just looks to have good technique and nice quickness.

I still see him as a specialist in a one gap scheme. Either 3 tech or 5 tech. I think he'll probably get drafted in Round 2 after this strong week, but I wouldn't draft him there.
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I'm still not sold on him. He did a GREAT job all week at the Senior Bowl, and he was great at Pitt, but he still hasn't gone against elite NFL interior blockers. The Senior Bowl was notoriously weak this year, and he had some of his least productive games against the ranked teams Pitt played this year (FSU, Duke, and Notre Dame).

He's getting comps to Geno Atkins, but Geno is insanely strong. I'll have to see how powerful Donald is, right now, he just looks to have good technique and nice quickness.

I still see him as a specialist in a one gap scheme. Either 3 tech or 5 tech. I think he'll probably get drafted in Round 2 after this strong week, but I wouldn't draft him there.
He could be the second coming of John Randle.
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I like this guy at pick 32.
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Good call -- he reminds me of Randle a lot!

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We did a great job neutralizing him this year but he beasted in most games I saw him play.
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Do you think he could find a place on Denver's D-Line, or is he too short/stubby?
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He has really good strength for his size. The fact that he is so explosive off the snap and has such great technique is one of the reasons why he is consistently beating the competition. He went against some good players on the OL at the Senior Bowl. He just continued what he did all season long. I don't know if he's big enough for JDR, but any defense that needs a guy up front as a 3-tech to generate pressure will love him. I bet the Chicago Bears draft him.
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Not sure how you could be unhappy about having a guy like this on the defensive line. I'd be all for him in the first.
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Wolfe got a good report today on his health so don't count Derek out just yet

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Am curious for input from any of the more X's and O's fluent members of the Orange Mane as to whether Aaron Donald would be a fit in Denver's defense as it is currently constructed.... His career stats are mind-bending, but he'll be available with our 1st round pick and even possibly our second-round pick due to his height and weight.

He's obviously able to put pressure on from the middle, but can a 6' 0", 285-lb. DT play for us? Would he be successful in our system?

Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 285

2010: 11 tackles, 3.0 TFL, 2.0 sacks, 5 QBH
2011: 47 tackles, 16.0 TFL, 11.0 sacks, 11 QBH
2012: 64 tackles, 18.5 TFL, 5.5 sacks, 11 QBH
2013: 59 tackles, 28.5 TFL, 11.0 sacks, 16 QBH

Career Stats: 181 tackles, 66.0 TFL, 29.5 sacks, 43 QBH

If Denver goes line it will probably be for NT/DT.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...niel-mccullers


DANIEL MCCULLERS, DT
SCHOOL: TENNESSEE | CONFERENCE: SEC
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE: SENIOR | HOMETOWN: RALEIGH, NC
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STRENGTHS: Despite his inexperience, McCullers' size and ability to disrupt things from the middle often made him the focus of an opponent's blocking scheme. Has been double-teamed on most snaps and has even seen triple-team blocks often. Despite the attention, McCullers' size and strength make him tough to move in the running game. He plays with better leverage than one might expect given his frame, holding up well inside and sliding off blockers to handle two-gap responsibilities when playing the 3-4 nose guard. He was equally impressive against the run when Tennessee switched to a four-man front in 2012.
WEAKNESSES: While McCullers' is tough against the run, he offers little in terms of a pass rush. He certainly has the strength to simply push opponents into the pocket but possesses below average foot-quickness and lateral agility.

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We need to beef up our interior. IMO
The flashy players are nice but we don't need any flashy players on d-line. We need lineman that can eat up some blockers so our flashy players,Von,wolf,Phillips and co. Can get freed up.

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If Denver goes line it will probably be for NT/DT.

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We need to beef up our interior. IMO
The flashy players are nice but we don't need any flashy players on d-line. We need lineman that can eat up some blockers so our flashy players,Von,wolf,Phillips and co. Can get freed up.
We have Knighton and Vickerson for that role. Why would we draft another one?
If we go DL I want Easley from Florida. I think he will fall to round 2 or 3. He is a stud and can play DE or DT.
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We have Knighton and Vickerson for that role. Why would we draft another one?
If we go DL I want Easley from Florida. I think he will fall to round 2 or 3. He is a stud and can play DE or DT.
And where has vickerson been the last year?

Besides del rio likes having big boys in the interior.

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If Wolfe returns, do we really need another SDE? Consider we have Wolfe and Malik there.. I'm only posing the question, not suggesting we shouldn't or won't draft a SDE.

I really think we need to improve at linebacker and safety. We need more physical players and guys who can cover.

And just because we have Vickerson and Knighton as projected starters with Sly in the mix, doesn't mean we can't upgrade over Unrein and Fua. We should continue to increase talent across the board. Seattle continues to draft DL, LBs, and DBs. That's why they have such good depth and talent.
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