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Old 01-21-2014, 07:29 AM   #26
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I watched the same interview and he also mentioned that every play should be exciting, and the extra point kick is not. He also said that 6 out of 1,200 extra points this regular season missed. Not sure if that is accurate, just regurgitating what Goodell said.
How many games are decided by an extra point? Say the score is 20-14 so a TD and extra point wins. The defense fights their ass off trying to keep them out of the end zone. In this case the extra point puts a stamp on the winning drive.

Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:43 AM   #27
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:52 AM   #28
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So if a Hooker is banging a Donkey in the stands while a Mariachi band plays God save the queen in the back ground. Is that -6 or + 8 ?

Maybe we should just leave it alone.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:53 AM   #29
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I know when I think of things to make football even better, the first thing I think of is eliminating the extra point.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:29 AM   #30
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There are some things in the NFL that are "broken". There are other things that are not.

Things that are broken include the overly complicated rules and the current inability to challenge some calls.

Some things that are not broken include the current scoring system, the current length of the season and the current amount of teams that make the playoffs.

Is the extra point boring? Perhaps, but who cares. You have the option to go for two or get the extra easy one. The one is an easy feather in the cap of the scoring team, its their little reward.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:46 PM   #31
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Just saw the highlight of Goodhell getting interviewed on ESPN of the possible elimination of XPs...He said one of the possible changes could be an automatic 7 or either gaining or losing a point on today's 2 point conversion. That is the only possible change he offered btw. Here are the only ways I would consider a change and neither involve elimination of the kick.

1- Make the kick from 30 or 35 as dude on ESPN proposed (not Goodell, ****er), and make 2 point conversions harder...like from anywhere between the 5 and the 10 would be good with me. It more often than not ensures a pass rather than the run which should tickle Goody's panties well enough since this is now a passing/scoring league.

2- Keep everything the same, and just move the spot back. You've seen plenty of close XP's throughout the season in any season, where they barely curl in. I think XP's are put in the middle of the field (might be wrong), why not move them to the spot where the TD was scored up to the hash mark? Move it back, again to between the 5 and 10. It would, in my mind would keep a lot of 7's on the board, which I will hate football if 6s and 8s are the norm But especially in cold/windy games, it may change things, and add excitement. Again, plus for Goodsuck.

Don't let the XP die, it's there for another point to earn, not be given. Plus, it's also tradition which there isn't much of anymore. Next will be kickoffs. It will just be basketball on grass. GoonOfFootball, you can only change the game so much before the fans of the game snap.

Rule change: Touchdowns of 70 yards or more get 12 points.
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Or dang why not... you kick it or go for it from the two from the spot you score, allowing your minimum Oline on each side of the field depending on where you land. If you're stuck on the sideline you'll go for it. If in the middle, you'll kick at times, considering how many 6's and 8's have been scored on both sides. What if it was down by 1 as time expired and you are stuck on the sideline? Go for the win or a cut shot XP from the 2? Goodyear wins again.
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Naked cheerleader pyramids to distract and possibly block the kicker.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:16 PM   #35
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Why not just make them kick the extra point from farther away if it is too automatic?
They changed the kick-off distance supposedly to make it safer, so the distance of a kick isn't cast in concrete.
The Extra Point Is On Its Way Out



t may not happen next year, it may not happen within five years, but it will happen, and the NFL's top man is on board: Roger Goodell says the Competition Committee has a number of proposals to do away with the extra point, and he's a fan of one in particular.

The extra point is an anachronism, a vestige of a time when it wasn't a gimme. In 1932, for example, kickers successfully converted PATs just 67 percent of the time. In 1974, when the goalposts were moved to the back of the end zone, the success rate hovered around 90 percent. And since 1984, when defenders were prohibited from taking running leaps, it hasn't been below 95 percent. (In 2013, kickers were 1,256 for 1,261 on PATs, a whopping 99.6 percent accuracy rate.)

Here's a stunning graph that shows the steady increase in accuracy for both field goals and extra points over the years, but the point is clear—it's too easy, and kickers are too good.



In an appearance on NFL Network yesterday, Goodell agreed that the PAT is almost a useless, "automatic" play at this point. ("The penny of the NFL," Rich Eisen called it, and I think that's spot-on.) It adds nothing, runs a barely nonzero risk of failure, and a higher risk of injury. And among the ideas to do away with it, Goodell singled out one.

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"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about," Goodell went on. "It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."
This seems simple and fair. Assume the PAT will be a success, so award the extra point without even running the play. It would preserve the familiar seven-point scoring block, but still allow for teams to go double-or-nothing on a two-point conversion.

But it's not the only option to reform the extra point. Some others have been tossed around, and could bring a little excitement back to the play:
  • Take a page from rugby. The PAT is already a holdover from the "conversion," worth two points in rugby (the NFL rulebook still calls it a "try"). So why not adopt rugby's practice of taking the kick not from between the hash marks, but from wherever the touchdown was scored? If a team crosses the goal line just in-bounds, force them to take the PAT from the two-yard line at that spot; the angle will be sharp and the target smaller.

  • Move the line of scrimmage back. The linked chart above shows the success rate for 30-39 yard field goals to be just under 90 percent, or about as easy as the PAT was in the 1970s. If teams have to convert the extra point from the 20 or the 25, instead of the 2, it'll no longer be a given.

  • Make the player who scored the touchdown kick the PAT. My personal favorite, because chaos. Marshawn Lynch ran the ball in for six points? He's got to get the seventh too. This will never happen, because you can just picture Peyton Manning tearing a quad attempting a placekick, but I very badly want it to, if just for the occasional offensive lineman touchdown.

Weaning ourselves off the PAT will be difficult, and maybe painful. The extra point has been a part of American football from the very beginning, and change is hard, but we can do it. It's only been 20 years since the two-point conversion fundamentally changed NFL scoring, and now we can barely remember life without it.

As a preliminary eulogy, let's relive the most exciting extra point of all time.

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Old 01-21-2014, 04:21 PM   #36
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I don't like much of what Goodell is doing, but this is one change that I agree with. The extra point is pretty much useless. It's a waste of a play. The proposed change gets rid of it without really changing the scoring structure of the game.
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Make every PAT a Drop Kick!!

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Old 01-21-2014, 05:09 PM   #38
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Unless you start a division over in London then the 16 game season makes no sense.
It is a bad idea to begin with due to the travel issues and lag time.
I understand the desire to globalize the game but this is a bit too much.
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Old 01-21-2014, 05:40 PM   #39
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Is there any other sports league where the rules constantly change like NFL? So weird. But this won't happen.
This is actually very similar to what just happened in baseball. They outlawed the pickoff move where the pitcher fakes to 3rd and then looks to 1st. Fans would boo relentlessly, but I actually hate the rule change for several reasons. For one, it only delays the game by like 15 seconds (whereas they can still do as many pickoffs in a row as they want). Most importantly, the move isn't even about trying to throw out the guy at 1st: it's to keep him honest on double steal attempts because he has to wait till the pitcher goes home instead of first movement. So it actually is always effective even if noone gets thrown out.

But as for the part that really relates to this football rule: SOMETIMES THE PLAY ACTUALLY WORKS!! 99.9% is not 100%. I've seen baserunners on 1st get picked off by that move, and I've seen missed extra points. I mean we only have to go back to Week 14: Detroit and Philly were going for 2 every time, and when Detroit actually tried to kick it (might have been a FG), they missed. Made the game way more interesting than just giving them 7 every time. And even in good weather we've all seen missed and blocked PAT's, and they are not only hilarious but can completely change a game.
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