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Old 11-27-2013, 11:06 AM   #76
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #77
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Is this the DT that played so well in Carolina the panthers actually tried moving him over to the O-line?
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #78
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Carolina moved Fua from DT to Guard before cutting him.

Shows they like his athleticism....OR...that they didn't think he could make it as a DT...
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:25 PM   #79
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Carolina moved Fua from DT to Guard before cutting him.

Shows they like his athleticism....OR...that they didn't think he could make it as a DT...

A little of both. He is thier Ben Garland. They were very deep at DT, but not so much at OL, so they tried to move him. It didn't work out.
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Rolling with Sly..
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:36 PM   #81
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Rolling with Sly..
This can be interpreted multiple ways.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:38 PM   #82
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Yeah that's what Von said.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:41 PM   #83
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:41 PM   #84
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:46 PM   #85
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This is our first round pick, scouting reports had him as more of a NT but he showed a quick first step and ability to be disruptive at times on the tape.

Warren Sapp said that Sly reminded him of himself more than Floyd did.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:02 PM   #86
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Huge loss for this defense. Huge.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:07 PM   #87
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Even since he went out, run defense has collapsed. Coincided with Wolfe going down too.

We mentioned Richard Seymore earlier in this thread. I don't know if its even practical to sign a guy off the street at this juncture, but a major problem this defense has is there is no nastiness in this unit and is severely lacking leadership. I know he would cure one of those issues. Mitch Unrein is not getting it done.
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Guess I underestimated how big his loss would be. Really need Wolfe to come back, at least.
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Guess I underestimated how big his loss would be. Really need Wolfe to come back, at least.

His only problem was stupid flags but, his play was good this year.
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Yeah, knew he was a good player, just didn't think the run defense would go to absolute **** without him
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Loss of Big Vick and Wolf has wrecked the preciously stout run D. At least we get Wolf back.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:11 PM   #92
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Vick has been great the past few years. I was surprised another team didn't try and swoop him up this past offseason. Denver needs to sign him this offseason.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:27 PM   #93
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Yeah, knew he was a good player, just didn't think the run defense would go to absolute **** without him
Think about it though. It is not a coincidence Woodyard was suddenly deemed unacceptable at MLB when he went down. They didn't feel Wes could take on the barrage of guards and centers that would inevitably be in his face. They thought getting bigger by putting Paris in there would possibly neutralize things, but it didn't work.

The whole thing has snowballed to the point where they have two good weakside guys overstepping their capabilities, and possibly the players are questioning the coaches' decisions on playing time. And that dynamic could get worse, especially after tonight's suckfest.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:30 PM   #94
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slow down on wolf, i'm hearing even if he does come back he may never be the same player

lets just say his situation threatens his ability to maintain an NFL body

the organization is very pessimistic about his future in the nfl.
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Malik Jackson got a lot of the run down PT in this game. Results were not good. SD doubled his ass 2-3 yds off the LOS most running plays and then sprung into the LB's laps. The run defense is in very real trouble unless Sly Williams explodes into the player the coaches thought we were drafting. I haven't seen it on run downs though.
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Think about it though. It is not a coincidence Woodyard was suddenly deemed unacceptable at MLB when he went down. They didn't feel Wes could take on the barrage of guards and centers that would inevitably be in his face. They thought getting bigger by putting Paris in there would possibly neutralize things, but it didn't work.

The whole thing has snowballed to the point where they have two good weakside guys overstepping their capabilities, and possibly the players are questioning the coaches' decisions on playing time. And that dynamic could get worse, especially after tonight's suckfest.
Spot on post. I think the destruction of our little dynamics on D is adding up. Rahim is way better than Mike "Can't Tackle For Crap" Adams and the middle is suddenly leaky.

Very much like baseball, the middle in football. So important to control the point of attack.
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slow down on wolf, i'm hearing even if he does come back he may never be the same player

lets just say his situation threatens his ability to maintain an NFL body

the organization is very pessimistic about his future in the nfl.
Then why aren't they shutting him down now and getting at least another body in here. Not trying to be insensitive, but that is how a front office would approach if it what you are saying is true.
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slow down on wolf, i'm hearing even if he does come back he may never be the same player

lets just say his situation threatens his ability to maintain an NFL body

the organization is very pessimistic about his future in the nfl.
That blows, man. And considering the lack of info from the org, I'm inclined to agree. Must be pretty serious. Seizures, yikes.

I wonder if it's connected to that injury in pre season. When I saw that, I thought he was gone for the season at least. Was kind of surprised to see him back as soon as he was
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too late in the season to make a meaningful move

the defensive line will need an upgrade again next offseason

elway won't resign woodyard, he will need to get bigger lb'ers

alot of people in the NFL front offices don't think Elway can build a defense.
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Don't lose Vick/Wolfe and I doubt we are having these run defense issues. At that point Wood isn't even an issue. I seriously question the coaching with how it's all gone down though. They've only compounded the problem.

Elway has brought this team on a 180. I'll question a few of his picks like Boldin and Irvin but otherwise, his FA pickups and a majority of his picks have been great.
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