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Old 12-12-2013, 05:48 AM   #451
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Thank you sir, you get it.

I would pass for 500 yards against shanahan's hand picked group
I'd give you 250, cause you're RB would be gashing them too.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:29 AM   #452
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Here's a link to the entire presser yesterday by Shanny:

http://www.redskins.com/media-galler...e-f8d1c62cc1b1

Interesting to me how casual, honest, relaxed, forthright Shanny was. Compared to his agitated, uptight state of the last couple weeks.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:45 AM   #453
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His coaching prowess as one of the best is pretty universally accepted.
Surely, when you win 1 playoff game in 18 out of 20 years of your HC career, you're universally accepted as one of the best right?
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Surely, when you win 1 playoff game in 18 out of 20 years of your HC career, you're universally accepted as one of the best right?
Apparently we don't have high enough IQ's to understand!
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Plummer vs Manning... definitely Mike's fault. Also, that playoff win was handing Brady and Belichick their first postseason and killed their dynasty, unbelievably satisfying and quite a notch on a coaching resume.
Yeah, because the games Manning has lost in the playoffs were due to being out QB'd by the other team Stop that bull****.

And let's be honest, the whole Plummer excuse is bull**** (just like every excuse Shanahan has)... you're trying to tell me Shanahan had to coach Plummer for 90% of his career (18/20)? Again, stop that bull****.

Everybody knows Shanahan rode Kubiak and Bobby Turner's ass, which there is nothing wrong with in regards to being able to spot good coaching talent...but Shanahan hasn't even been able to do THAT.

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Meanwhile, he recently dragged another mediocre (at best) manned team to a division title FOR THE FIRST TIME in nearly 20 years with a rookie QB, 36 mill in cap penalties and had the current "OMG BEST TEAM IN THE NFL" dead to rights before Griff's knee exploded.
36 mill in cap penalties? Stop telling lies. 18 million in cap penalties.

Best team in the NFL? Stop that bull****.

John Fox's season and playoff W with Tim Tebow > every single season Shanahan has coached outside of the Super Bowl.

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Keep up that McDaniels faith though, douche.
Are you upset that McDaniels had left the Broncos in better shape than Shanahan will have with the Redskins?

Why you so mad at McDaniels? I mean he did lead an offense 24 points down from half time to defeat us.... what has Shanahan done lately?

You know what they say...this is a what have you done for me lately league...I guess that would mean 1 playoff win in the past 14 years for Shanahan...
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...that says everything anyone needs to know about you.

Thanks for ending this "discussion" for me!
You're almost as good as Shanahan in playing the media. Completely changing this point to Josh McDaniels and acting as if he means anything to this discussion.

Shanahan sucks...my opinion about McDaniels has nothing to do with the FACTS about Shanahan.
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You're aware that you're universally mocked here because you're stupid, right?
Oh, and you're not?
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Not even close. It's about your opinion of Shanahan and far, far, far removed from anything factual on his resume. The best you have is out-of-context shots at his playoff W/L record.

Congratulations?
Out of context? Talking about 90% of his CAREER is out of context?

I'm sure this article is full of **** too.

Mike Shanahan's Brilliant Last Act

It's sad that, you don't realize if Mike's career took a different route with another team you'd be singing the exact same tune as I.

What exactly makes Shanahan one of the best? I can come up for more excuses for his success than you can for his failures.
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Oh and to be clear, I am taking absolutely no shots at his W/L record. I am only taking a shot at his W column, which is just as successful as Tim Tebows...90% of Shanahan's career that is...
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This should be adorable. Please go on.
Elway, Davis, Kubiak, Bobby Turner.

Shanahan has not has any success with anyone else.

Oh, and he only coached Elway for 4 years.
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The article you linked is from "HTTR24-7.com" Nice to know even garbage like Bleacherreport was too official for you.
...yeah keep spinning like a ballerina.

Kinda like Shanahan did when he was b****ed by RG3 to let him stay in the game.
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Elway, Davis, Kubiak, Bobby Turner.

Shanahan has not has any success with anyone else.

Oh, and he only coached Elway for 4 years.
Gibbs, alex gibba offensive line coach, aasistant HEAD football coach, the true MASTERMIND of our zone blocking system, the man who every week submitted the RUN plays that he determined should be used for our 20 play script and gameplan.
Gibbs was hired by mike in the same 15 minutes he announced kubiak and turner.
FYI.
and without this handful of players and coaches shanny hasnt done squat.
and he does not have a decent hire of any other coach to claim either !
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I'd give you 250, cause you're RB would be gashing them too.
750 total yards is realistic against a shanahan defense
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Totally laughable.

Shanahan has a ring without Elway, not vice versa.

TD isn't in the Hall because of Shanahan's system prowess.

Kubiak and Turner owe the modest success they've had to Shanahan, and I'm positive they'd be the first to tell you that (along with Elway, Young, etc).

Keep up the good work. You and Chef Luigi are step-for-step here, that must make you feel good about your position.
Oh so now we're talking about Shanahan as an OC too? I think we can agree that Shanahan can put together a decent game plan and call some plays. But that's as far as it gets. It's also irrelevant because he hasn't done this for how long now?

Elway was in the super bowl 3 times before Shanahan. Let's not act like Shanahan turned **** into gold with Elway.

Shanahan has shown success with ONLY Kubiak and Bobby turner, not the other way around. What has Shanahan's career looked like without Kubiak?

To be honest, Shanahan's career pre-2000 is ****ing irrelevant to what's going on now and the points being made... Shanahan has been a ****ty head coach for the past decade+....that's the real point being made here.
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Serious question: Are you MVPlaya or Freak6?
I'm Action - my account was deleted with many others.
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Is this what you do? Just constantly get off topic?

Hit up Von for some Adderall.
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He was in 3 Super Bowls with another HoF caliber head coach and couldn't get over the hump, yet you write off all Mike did (in your own words "excuses for his success") in turning Elway from the "Wrong-way-Elway" punchline who couldn't win the big one and even had Tommy Maddox drafted to potentially supplant him to a back-to-back Superbowl champion who Elway himself said "We would've won a lot more if he were coaching the whole time".

As for only with Kubiak and Turner, that's because they've been arond for the vast majority of his career. As for Turner himself:

Mike Shanahan was the 49ers Offensive Coordinator from 1992-1994

In 1994, the 49ers had the #6 rushing offense in the league.
In 1993, the 49ers had the #3 rushing offense in the league.
In 1992, the 49ers had the #3 rushing offense in the league.

From 1992-1994, Bobby Turner was coaching Purdue.

You're out of your league, son.
So we talking about stats from 1992-1994 as an offensive coordinator? I wonder how much the game has changed since then....what does this have to do with Shanahan as a coach NOW?

I thought we already talked about this discussion primarily being about from 2000+? That's a fairly obvious parameter.

Shanahan has been with Kubiak for 9/20 seasons. Stop the bull****.
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That's off topic to you? It's addressing each of your "points"...

If you can't even follow your end of the "discussion" then this is even more pointless than it already was heading into it.
So I was talking about MVPlaya, Freak9...right. and somehow you took a whole post about Shanahan and turned it into McDaniels.

Right on topic there.
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I think it's pretty sad that all I see is Shanahan's accomplishments in the 90's

What does any of this have to do with Shanahan as a head coach in the 2000's and especially today, in 2013?
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And let's look deeper into the numbers:

Starting from 2000, Shanahan has been with Kubiak for 6 years, and without him for 7 (the past 7). I wonder which of those time periods had more success...
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Are people really knocking Shanahan for surrounding himself with talented and successful people? I thought that's what a good leader is supposed to do?

Of course his record isn't as good when talent (player and coaching) walks out the door. That doesn't take away what he accomplished as head coach of the Denver Broncos. With great talent and coaching he led the team to 2 Superbowls. He led the team back to the AFC Championship game. He won a lot of games WITHOUT Elway.

I do believe that Shanahan the GM is pretty awful. And I do believe that when he was fired, it was the right time. But some of you are acting like he's trash, and he's not. He's the most successful HC we have ever had.

Show some appreciation for the man that helped Elway & Company finally win a Superbowl. Show some appreciation for the man who helped the whole area celebrate like they never celebrated before, or since.

Is he perfect? NO. But he is a huge part of our team's history, and a huge part of the most successful part of that history.
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Is this what you do? Just constantly get off topic?
Yup, that's what he does. No point arguing with him when he goes full retard like this. The fact that his mindless sycophant minions haven't come rushing to his rescue goes to show how badly he's losing this one. If/when they do he'll probably post all the rep he got while losing this argumet to you.
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Are people really knocking Shanahan for surrounding himself with talented and successful people? I thought that's what a good leader is supposed to do?
I specifically said there is nothing wrong with that...as long as you can prove to find more coaching talent as your career continues.

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Of course his record isn't as good when talent (player and coaching) walks out the door. That doesn't take away what he accomplished as head coach of the Denver Broncos. With great talent and coaching he led the team to 2 Superbowls. He led the team back to the AFC Championship game. He won a lot of games WITHOUT Elway.

I do believe that Shanahan the GM is pretty awful. And I do believe that when he was fired, it was the right time. But some of you are acting like he's trash, and he's not. He's the most successful HC we have ever had.

Show some appreciation for the man that helped Elway & Company finally win a Superbowl. Show some appreciation for the man who helped the whole area celebrate like they never celebrated before, or since.

Is he perfect? NO. But he is a huge part of our team's history, and a huge part of the most successful part of that history.
This is less about appreciating what Shanahan did for the Broncos organization (2 super bowls) and more about Shanahan being a ****ty Head Coach in 2013 and showing signs of this for the past 10 years +.

He's won a lot of games as a Broncos HC, but only 1 playoff game in his last 10 years as a Broncos HC. No matter who you are are and what you've done, 10 years and 1 playoff win is going to put you up for scrutiny and it is completely unacceptable.
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Deflecting away from how many times you've previously been laughed off the board?

Shame on me for getting suckered into this ridiculous discussion
And there you go again with getting off topic.

Previously laughed on this board? Due to what? My Von Miller thread? How's that looking now?
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What does Shanny got to lose by benching RG3 anyway? He should have done this months ago...
Maybe that's why Shanny looked so relaxed (to me) in that presser yesterday. He finally got what he wanted . . . .

He met with Snyder and Bruce Allen, and finally got everyone on the same page.
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