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Old 12-05-2013, 01:14 PM   #1326
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The fact that "Michigan Men" is a thing is so incredibly stupid and a great example of why college athletics are permanently ****ed.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:25 PM   #1327
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The fact that "Michigan Men" is a thing is so incredibly stupid and a great example of why college athletics are permanently ****ed.
It was a quote made by Bo Schembechler when addressing making Bill Frieder leave immediately before the tourney after annoucing he was going to Arizona St after the season.
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"A Michigan man will coach Michigan, not an Arizona State man."
He wanted guys who wanted to coach at Michigan and not just guys who were looking to jump for a pay raise. With that said, it is still a stupid thing that has been twisted by those who porport to be caring on his legacy.

Plus... All the men with ties to Michigan suck at coaching, can't get a HC gig, coach in the NFL or in Les Miles case... Will never coach at Michigan so long as Lloyd Carr is alive.

This is why Nebraska and other teams have issues as well. Most of the successful teams currently going hired guys who had no real connection to the university previously. They just came in, secured certain pay for their assistants and made sure they changed the culture.

Only Shaw really has a connection to the school before being on staff or being a HC there.

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Old 12-05-2013, 01:35 PM   #1328
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Winston for Manning's replacement in 2 years.
I bet he comes out next year. If he wins a Heisman and a BCS NC, there isn't much else for him to do.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:39 PM   #1329
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I bet he comes out next year. If he wins a Heisman and a BCS NC, there isn't much else for him to do.
It depends on how he is viewed though. Plus, maybe he enjoys college and wants to win another title or Heisman.
It's unlikely but it could happen.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:40 PM   #1330
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It depends on how he is viewed though. Plus, maybe he enjoys college and wants to win another title or Heisman.
It's unlikely but it could happen.
I remember when Joe Mauer (Twins) committed to FSU.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:46 PM   #1331
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It was a quote made by Bo Schembechler when addressing making Bill Frieder leave immediately before the tourney after annoucing he was going to Arizona St after the season.


He wanted guys who wanted to coach at Michigan and not just guys who were looking to jump for a pay raise. With that said, it is still a stupid thing that has been twisted by those who porport to be caring on his legacy.

Plus... All the men with ties to Michigan suck at coaching, can't get a HC gig, coach in the NFL or in Les Miles case... Will never coach at Michigan so long as Lloyd Carr is alive.

This is why Nebraska and other teams have issues as well. Most of the successful teams currently going hired guys who had no real connection to the university previously. They just came in, secured certain pay for their assistants and made sure they changed the culture.

Only Shaw really has a connection to the school before being on staff or being a HC there.
I went to OSU and the same bull**** is said about Urban Meyer all the time too. Everyone always talks about how Meyer "came home" to Ohio. There are so many silly things that people who are fans of college sports over pro ones love to talk about (The Pageantry! The Traditions!) that mean nothing. College athletics are corrupt and dirty and that's why Nick Saban and John Calipari are the best coaches. They realize this and don't give a **** about anything except winning in the context of the dirty, corrupt college sports landscape they exist in.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #1332
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I bet he comes out next year. If he wins a Heisman and a BCS NC, there isn't much else for him to do.
Elway will pull a Dikta and trade all draft picks for Winston.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:11 PM   #1333
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Elway will pull a Dikta and trade all draft picks for Winston.
Not worth it.
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:13 PM   #1334
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Elway will pull a Dikta and trade all draft picks for Winston.
Can we, at least, wait until Osweiler has some significant playing time? He has the size to be a great NFL quarterback. It's not known whether or not he has the other tools to be a great NFL quarterback...
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:22 PM   #1335
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Can we, at least, wait until Osweiler has some significant playing time? He has the size to be a great NFL quarterback. It's not known whether or not he has the other tools to be a great NFL quarterback...
We should just draft Brock Jensen from NDSU. Remember how he dominated Kansas State?
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:36 PM   #1336
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A QB I like in the upcoming draft is David Fales from San Jose State.

His stock has got to be on the rise.

I come away a little more enamored with Fales every time I watch him play.

The passing display that David Fales and Derek Carr put on last week when San Jose State and Fresno State played was a lot of fun to watch.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:01 PM   #1337
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Fales is good. He would be great in the Chiefs dink and dunk offense. I don't think he has enough of a cannon to drive the ball downfield consistently.
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Old 12-05-2013, 04:44 PM   #1338
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I remember when Joe Mauer (Twins) committed to FSU.
I remember how pissed off FSU fans were when he went to the Twins.
But that FSU class was nuts. Mauer,McPherson & Henshaw as QB commits.

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A QB I like in the upcoming draft is David Fales from San Jose State.

His stock has got to be on the rise.

I come away a little more enamored with Fales every time I watch him play.

The passing display that David Fales and Derek Carr put on last week when San Jose State and Fresno State played was a lot of fun to watch.
Fales and Carr both came into the season highly regarded by scouts.
Carr much more so than Fales. I think both will be good NFL QB's.
I think Carr will be a star. He has his brother's experience to lean on and I feel as though he has more potential than his brother.
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:09 PM   #1339
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Holy **** that was a crazy ass first down run by Bridgewater.
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:18 PM   #1341
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Wow and that TD pass was even better. Holy **** again.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:39 PM   #1342
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Congrats to Duke's David Cutcliffe for winning the Walter Camp Coach of the year Award. I think there will be other organizations such as the AP that will also vote.

Personally, I think it's a very close call between Cutcliffe and Gus Malzahn. Duke has been getting incrementally better the last few years and went bowling last season, but Auburn is a one year turnaround from 3-9 to 11-1. Very tough to do, especially in the SEC. Although for Duke to ever win 10 games is a big deal, and a division title.

SoCal's Picks for Conference Coaches of the Year:

PAC 12: Todd Graham, Arizona State: They were decent last year and took a major step forward this season. To be playing at home for a Rose Bowl berth in Year 2 is a BFD for this often underachieving program.

Honorable mention: Ed Orgeron, USC (Interim and Fmr HC). Terrific job injecting life back into that program. Has a good chance to get the FAU job.

BIG 12: Art Briles, Baylor: Very close call here between Briles and Gundy. While Oklahoma State beat them and are better than Baylor, in many ways, Briles work is more impressive because he built that program from scratch and does it with lesser recruits. He's always been one of the best offensive minds in the game, starting from his million formation offense at Stephensville HS and U. of Houston to the spread scheme he has now at Baylor. He's had them good for awhile, but they took a huge step this season.

Honorable Mention: Mike Gundy, Oklahoma St. Will be very tough to beat in the Fiesta Bowl. Damn good club this year and also recently.

BIG TEN: Mark Dantonio, Michigan State. Dantonio has always fielded very good defenses going back to his time as DC at OSU. He and his DC did a terrific job this year fitting their personnel into the old Miami 4-3 Over defense, which was aggressive, attacking and downright dominant most of the year. It was likely the nations finest by the end of the season. Winning 11 games at MSU is a big achievement. His biggest achievement might be yet to come.

Honorable Mention: Jerry Kill and Tracy Klaes, Minnesota. Kill has built a fine program after the dumpster fire left by Tim Brewster. They are a big, physical team that can run and defend. You could see it starting last year in their bowl against TT. They lost the game, but I was impressed with how they played, with no names. Hopefully Coach Kill can overcome his medical issues.

ACC: David Cutcliffe, Duke. He went 10-2 and won the Coastal.....at Duke. Their run included wins at VT and at UNC and also at home vs. Miami. He took Duke bowling last year too. Terrific offensive coach. Also has a receiver that....(wait for it)...reminds me of McCaffrey. Lol

Honorable Mention: Jimbo Fisher, FSU. I don't think Fisher is a particularly good game day coach as FSU has underachieved for much of his reign (insert "the best 9-4 team in the country" joke here) but part of the job is recruiting and he's absolutely killed it in that regard. This FSU roster, and last years as well, were the most gifted of any group in the country. The Seminoles are very likely national champions and that's always a massive accomplishment.

SEC: Gus Malzahn, Auburn. To go from 3-9 to 11-1 might be the single best one year coaching job of anyone in the country. Malzahns high tempo offense looked great this season and Auburn got better and better as the year went on after looking mediocre against WSU. That's a sign of great coaching and development.

Honorable Mention: Gary Pinkel, Missouri. Another great story. A usually slightly above average team really took off....and without their QB as well in the SEC.
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Boise State's Chris Petersen to UW.

Big hire. Lol...they actually upgraded from Sark. Didn't think he would leave Boise but they actually took a step back this year...maybe he thought he had to cash in while his reputation was still largely intact.

Excellent hire either way.

Allegedly, he also strongly pursued USC but the interview didn't go well because part of that job was personality in terms of being able to mix with boosters etc and Haden didn't think his demeanor/lack of charisma was a good fit in that regard.
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Boise State's Chris Petersen to UW.

Big hire. Lol...they actually upgraded from Sark. Didn't think he would leave Boise but they actually took a step back this year...maybe he thought he had to cash in while his reputation was still largely intact.

Excellent hire either way.

Allegedly, he also strongly pursued USC but the interview didn't go well because part of that job was personality in terms of being able to mix with boosters etc and Haden didn't think his demeanor/lack of charisma was a good fit in that regard.
Sarkisian is an excellent coach. Boise State has let what appeared to be a very capable coach go before and they didn't miss a beat. I'd rather have Sarkisian than Petersen. Also Steve Sarkisian is the most underrated BYU QB ever - and we're talking about him being in a fraternity that included Jim Mcmahon, Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and the immortal John Beck. Steve Sarkisian is always the better choice when it comes to coaching candidates. It's science.
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Sarkisian is an excellent coach. Boise State has let what appeared to be a very capable coach go before and they didn't miss a beat. I'd rather have Sarkisian than Petersen. Also Steve Sarkisian is the most underrated BYU QB ever - and we're talking about him being in a fraternity that included Jim Mcmahon, Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and the immortal John Beck. Steve Sarkisian is always the better choice when it comes to coaching candidates. It's science.
How do Mormon fraternities operate? Do they have magic underwear parties, and decaf beverage stands. On second thought I remember a story about someone spiking a caffeine free punch with Mountain Dew once, it was quite the scandal, so I guess I'm on the right track.


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Sarkisian is an excellent coach. Boise State has let what appeared to be a very capable coach go before and they didn't miss a beat. I'd rather have Sarkisian than Petersen. Also Steve Sarkisian is the most underrated BYU QB ever - and we're talking about him being in a fraternity that included Jim Mcmahon, Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and the immortal John Beck. Steve Sarkisian is always the better choice when it comes to coaching candidates. It's science.
BYU homerism.

It's good stuff.

BTW Khan, you know that Sarkisian isn't even Mormon right? He's catholic, just went there to play and didn't convert.


/Khan hates him now.

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Boise State's Chris Petersen to UW.

Big hire. Lol...they actually upgraded from Sark. Didn't think he would leave Boise but they actually took a step back this year...maybe he thought he had to cash in while his reputation was still largely intact.

Excellent hire either way.

Allegedly, he also strongly pursued USC but the interview didn't go well because part of that job was personality in terms of being able to mix with boosters etc and Haden didn't think his demeanor/lack of charisma was a good fit in that regard.
Chris Petersen is a better fit to coach at Washington than he would be at USC.

Petersen isn't a SoCal type of coach....he fits in better in the Northwest. You need to have some charisma/schmoozing ability to be the head coach at USC and Chris Petersen has always seemed like a serious dude who wants to recruit and coach and not have to deal with the other bull**** that goes along with the job.
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Sarkisian is an excellent coach. Boise State has let what appeared to be a very capable coach go before and they didn't miss a beat. I'd rather have Sarkisian than Petersen. Also Steve Sarkisian is the most underrated BYU QB ever - and we're talking about him being in a fraternity that included Jim Mcmahon, Robbie Bosco, Steve Young and the immortal John Beck. Steve Sarkisian is always the better choice when it comes to coaching candidates. It's science.
Snark is an excellent coach? Based on what? He's very average.


UW clearly upgraded and has top notch facilities. Great news for the PAC12.
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If anyone needs their Friday football fix, the MAC Championship Game is on ESPN 2 at 8 pm Eastern Time.

Bowling Green 9-3 (7-1 in MAC) versus #14 Northern Illinois 12-0 (8-0 in MAC).

Toledo was the only team to beat Bowling Green in league play.

Northern Illinois will probably win, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Bowling Green hang with them.

Bowling Green has a stout defense that only gave up 13.8 points per game this season.

Go Falcons.
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Bowling Green is taking it to Northern Illinois.

BGSU leads 24-13 in the 2nd quarter.
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