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Old 12-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #51
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Moreno's career long is 36 yards, and his long this season is 25 yards. Do you just make stuff up?

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Apparently you do. Yes TD played faster than his 40 time but he was not a fast back relatively speaking. Pretty much all his long runs involved defenders being caught flat-footed or missing tackles, not him winning foot races with defensive backs. He wouldn't have outrun the DB that tackled Ball yesterday. Sorry.
That is your opinion on whether or not TD would have gotten by that DB.

And wow, I made a mistake looking at Knowshon's stats and mixed up his career long 45 yard reception for a rush. How dare a fan don something like that.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:26 PM   #52
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Montee looks like he's got the talent to be a tremendous chain mover.

If we can re-sign Moreno this offseason we'll have a great 1-2 punch at RB for years to come. They compliment each other so well.
That's what I was thinking about Montee prior to the draft. Nothing spectacular, but a chain mover. He's a little bit slippery in space, can sidestep a little bit and runs with power after he cuts. That one third down when the LB met him behind the LOS and he spun was a thing of beauty to convert the 1st down.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:27 PM   #53
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If he can play like this every week I'd be stoked. Club option on Moreno, work on an extension for him as well and bam bam bam we are set.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:31 PM   #54
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You do realize that Ball is faster than TD right?
While this is probably true, to my eyes TD was more explosive and powerful in the open field.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:35 PM   #55
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The new "Black Hillis"!
Hillis, the white Earl Campbell, has led the Giants to 4-1 since being signed.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:39 PM   #56
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Hillis, the white Earl Campbell, has led the Giants to 4-1 since being signed.
What do you mean "led"??
He hasn't touched the ball in at least 3 games.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:42 PM   #58
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Yeah Montee had an awesome game. He also turned in my 2nd favorite run of the season, narrowly losing out to Peyton's bootleg.



That's just straight up beastmode right there.
88 and 87 did just enough to keep guys off Montee's legs there, but that looked like some crappy tackling by KC's D players. If I was a KC fan I'd be pissed off, christ, get a hand on the guy . . . . But Montee burst through that hole fast.

A guy that also had a nice game was Virgil Green. When they put him in he produces, mostly with blocking, but he can catch also.

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Old 12-03-2013, 02:59 PM   #59
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What do you mean "led"??
He hasn't touched the ball in at least 3 games.
It's just the Force, the awsomenissity. 4-1 since Hillis was signed, it's not a coincidence.
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What do you mean "led"??
He hasn't touched the ball in at least 3 games.
He had 6 for 45 on Sunday

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That is your opinion on whether or not TD would have gotten by that DB.

And wow, I made a mistake looking at Knowshon's stats and mixed up his career long 45 yard reception for a rush. How dare a fan don something like that.
TD was not faster than DBs. This is not a matter of opinion. And if you rewatch the play you will notice that Ball was basically the same exact speed as 31. He wasn't caught from behind. He simply was not faster than that DB. And TD wouldn't have been either.

And you were trying to make a point with stats that were wrong. I called you on it. Deal with it.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:21 PM   #63
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While this is probably true, to my eyes TD was more explosive and powerful in the open field.
Hard to say. Ball has only had a few carries that would even qualify, and he's still a rookie. Certainly TD was a much better runner in all phases when he was destroying the NFL for that three year span of domination. I wouldn't argue otherwise.
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They actually clocked in at the same time at their pro days -- Cooper and Ball. GOOD CATCH AMERGMON.
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88 and 87 did just enough to keep guys off Montee's legs there, but that looked like some crappy tackling by KC's D players. If I was a KC fan I'd be pissed off, christ, get a hand on the guy . . . . But Montee burst through that hole fast.

A guy that also had a nice game was Virgil Green. When they put him in he produces, mostly with blocking, but he can catch also.
You can interpret every broken tackle in the history of football as poor tackling...
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You can interpret every broken tackle in the history of football as poor tackling...
No. Sometimes RB's just crush fools, even with good technique. It is called being #bigbosslikerickross.
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No. Sometimes RB's just crush fools, even with good technique. It is called being #bigbosslikerickross.
No one ever "crushed" Steve Atwater. If you get "crushed" your tackling failed.
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Ball sure hits the hole better and faster than any back we've had here in our recent history.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:20 PM   #69
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I still think Elway hit it on the head when he compared him to TD. That 45 yarder he had looked exactly like him honestly. Dude just needs to put it together.
Certainly has a similar frame. TD's vision was maybe the best ever. God, I miss those days. Arguably the greatest rushing attack in history.

How is he not a hall of famer? Ridiculous. We should all boycott Canton until he and Atwater get in.
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It's just the Force, the awsomenissity. 4-1 since Hillis was signed, it's not a coincidence.
Lulz. Except for the fact that Andre "Cut By 7 Teams Including the Broncos Twice" Brown is the feature back who is actually scoring their points and twice the runner Hillis is. Hillis and a 65 year-old Jacobs look like the same guy in clean up duty for them.

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Good for Hillis. McD deserved to have that happen to him and Hillis deserved a piece due to his general awesomeness.

As Cito said, the kid has revitalized the Giants and put Eli on his back.


Color me unsurprised.
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Looking forward to a good follow-up game by Monte this week against a fairly decent defense by the Titans. His value is going to be heightened in the 2nd half at Mile High when defenses start to tire.
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Good for Hillis. McD deserved to have that happen to him and Hillis deserved a piece due to his general awesomeness.

As Cito said, the kid has revitalized the Giants and put Eli on his back.


Color me unsurprised.
You are so weird in your exaggerated rating of some players.

Revitalized and put on his back? He's played in 4 total games, has a 3.5 average, and 2 fumbles to 1 TD. Jacobs and Brown have been much more important.
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You are so weird in your exaggerated rating of some players.

Revitalized and put on his back? He's played in 4 total games, has a 3.5 average, and 2 fumbles to 1 TD. Jacobs and Brown have been much more important.
Dude, it was a joke from the get go . . . . .jebus
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Ball sure hits the hole better and faster than any back we've had here in our recent history.
Willis Mcgahee & Travi Henry's baby mamas say differently.
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