DVOA predicts Chiefs will tank. Second worst 8-0 team in history.

[JCMElway]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

I ran some prediction scenarios using that playoff simulator and guessing the winners for the rest of the league. I ran it several times in unlikely and likely outcomes of games with the Chiefs losing out. Even losing out they made the playoffs almost every time.

What is the link for that simulator?

[Gutless Drunk]

Originally Posted by JCMElway

What is the link for that simulator?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

[DomCasual]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Guess who's about to play backup QB's in 3 of their last 4 games?

Weetard

The good thing about you: You are still here after we beat your team down in two of the last three weeks.

The bad/potentially weird thing about you: You have not been humbled, and you have a strange grasp on reality. You say things like, "Congratulations on beating in injury-depleted team" - despite the fact that we had WAY more key injuries than you. You keep hammering this "our schedule wasn't an issue" - despite the fact that the entire football world, sans Chiefs homers, realizes that it was an issue.

Chew on this. The Broncos are a much better team than the Chefs. If the Broncos and Chefs played ten games on neutral fields, the Broncos would win eight or nine of them. You are going to sneak into the playoffs, and get soundly beaten by either the Colts or the Bengals in the first round. You had a cute little run for the first half of the year. It was fun for all your fans to escape reality for a few months. But the bottom line is that last year, you were probably good enough to finish 7-9 or 8-8. That could have been the greatest thing that's ever happened to you - a chance to plug in a player to build championships around. But, since you're the Chiefs, it got you Eric Fisher. This year, you probably should be around, wait for it, 7-9 or 8-8.

It's charming that you guys have gotten so excited again. Truly, we're happy for you. But let's not forget that we're still the Broncos, and you're still the Chiefs. We are winners. You are, well, not winners.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by rolandftw

There were signs that they were vulnerable even before the injuries. I agree that the whole fraud stuff doesn't really hold much water at this point. Unless you were one of the Chief fans that honestly felt they were a decade defining defense or something.

They're a good team, that will need to catch some breaks to win in the playoffs against other good teams. They are probably the 3rd best team in the AFC, on a neutral field.

Wow Roland with a nice post. I applaud you.

You're not reaching to try and make a point like most others on the board.

congrats.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2

I only see titans and texans. Schaub sucks this year so that's a default. He was out with injury and now hasn't he been demoted? Raiders Pryor done for the year?

Raiders aren't starting Pryor anymore.

And no the Schaub excuse doesn't hold water, remember? I said Keenum was much better and it apparently doesn't count. Can't have it both ways.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Raiders aren't starting Pryor anymore.

And no the Schaub excuse doesn't hold water, remember? I said Keenum was much better and it apparently doesn't count. Can't have it both ways.

Frauds

[Guess Who]

Originally Posted by KCStud

That's what happens when you lose key players all over the place.

Houston is apparently coming back this week, but I doubt he's anywhere near 100%.

Still think they are just as good as the Colts and Bengals right now. Not too bad of a first year for coach Reid after taking over a 2-14 team. Need weapons on the offensive side, along with a Safety for sure.

I think KC can go to Indy and win. I don't think they beat the Bengals though.

[Guess Who]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Guess who's about to play backup QB's in 3 of their last 4 games?

Weetard

I am not playing any back-up QBs? Are you on dope?

[Guess Who]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Raiders aren't starting Pryor anymore.

And no the Schaub excuse doesn't hold water, remember? I said Keenum was much better and it apparently doesn't count. Can't have it both ways.

Sure Denver has proven themselves and can feast on the back-up QBs the chiefs had made their fraudulent reputation on.

[Jason in LA]

After the Broncos beat the Chiefs the first time, I said that the Chiefs went from being on a pace to go 16-0 to going 9-7. Looks like they're still on pace for 9-7.

[Drunken.Broncoholic2]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Raiders aren't starting Pryor anymore.

And no the Schaub excuse doesn't hold water, remember? I said Keenum was much better and it apparently doesn't count. Can't have it both ways.

Didnt think I needed to explain how QBs can progress once they play for a while. Instead of playing against them when they are thrown in there without much exp due to injured QBs. Glennon is a good example.

[broncosteven]

Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Frauds

3 game losing streak

1000 yards and 76 points in 2 games AT HOME!

OH NOSES!

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Wow Roland with a nice post. I applaud you.

You're not reaching to try and make a point like most others on the board.

congrats.

As in others, you mean yourself trying to make a point how great the Chiefs are this season? Congrats. You made the hypocrite hall of fame. Now go get your booby prize.

[Rausch 2.0]

KC are frauds because they lost twice to the best team in the AFC.

OK...

[Agamemnon]

Stop feeding the troll guys. Dude keeps going on about injuries to his team but never acknowledges the injuries of the Broncos or of all the teams missing their starting QBs that they feasted on early. This is classic troll behavior.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Stop feeding the troll guys. Dude keeps going on about injuries to his team but never acknowledges the injuries of the Broncos or of all the teams missing their starting QBs that they feasted on early. This is classic troll behavior.

KCDud also (in the Delusional thread) told Broncos fans not to cherry pick yet he gives everyone bits and pieces of the excuses why we beat them or why they lost. They lost to the Chargers at home! That should be good enough to hid in a hole but the dude has moxie. He is dumb but he got moxie!

[Rausch 2.0]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Stop feeding the troll guys. Dude keeps going on about injuries to his team but never acknowledges the injuries of the Broncos or of all the teams missing their starting QBs that they feasted on early. This is classic troll behavior.

Anyone on this BB that doesn't agree with home team is a troll.

There are many posters on here worse than the judges in Salem.

Trolls don't hang out for years. Trolls don't show up after their team loses. Trolls don't concede arguments or point out positives in the opponent.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

KC are frauds because they lost twice to the best team in the AFC.

OK...

also lost to Chargers at home. That is the bite. The stinger was losing to us at home while being up 14 points.

[SoCalBronco]

[Rausch 2.0]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

also lost to Chargers at home. That is the bite. The stinger was losing to us at home while being up 14 points.

The Broncos were favorites both games.

They won both games.

KC was competitive in both games.

That's nothing to be ashamed of.

The media hyped KC because that's what they do. KC fans got excited because the drastic improvement was shocking.

The Denver games were a reality check. KC is a good team now.

They're not a great team. They're not a SB team. May not be a playoff winner...

[Shananahan]

Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

Trolls don't hang out for years. Trolls don't show up after their team loses.

Of course they do.

[rolandftw]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Wow Roland with a nice post. I applaud you.

You're not reaching to try and make a point like most others on the board.

congrats.

There's no point to. KC played a hell of a game, and pushed Denver to their limit. No shame in admitting KC is a good team. And besides, while the wins are nice, ultimately teams and players and judged by championships--whether that is fair or not.

It's kind of a sign of what the NFL is now, but I probably see the Chiefs as being more of a threat now at 9-3, then they were at 9-0. Because while Alex Smith hasn't exactly won a high scoring game yet, he hasn't exactly folded like many, including myself, expected.

[Shananahan]

Originally Posted by rolandftw

It's kind of a sign of what the NFL is now, but I probably see the Chiefs as being more of a threat now at 9-3, then they were at 9-0. Because while Alex Smith hasn't exactly won a high scoring game yet, he hasn't exactly folded like many, including myself, expected.

They'd be more of a threat now if their defense hadn't been exposed while their offense was 'improving'. They're still the same team they were three weeks ago.

[Guess Who]

Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

KC are frauds because they lost twice to the best team in the AFC.

OK...

Oh, I thought they were the best team in the NFL?

I think calling them a fraud is not a fact at this point it is a prediction. KC does not have a very difficult schedule left if they lose 2 of those games they can be considered frauds when they were 8-0.

Wouldn't you agree?

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

The Broncos were favorites both games.

They won both games.

KC was competitive in both games.

That's nothing to be ashamed of.

The media hyped KC because that's what they do. KC fans got excited because the drastic improvement was shocking.

The Denver games were a reality check. KC is a good team now.

They're not a great team. They're not a SB team. May not be a playoff winner...

When Chiefs are average to good (it has been awhile for "great"), Denver loses at KC. End of discussion. You were at home, must win and had a 14 point lead. You needed to close us out and our defense started stopping the scoring while Peyton got us going with tds. Like I said, Chargers game was a bite but this game was the stinger. You win, you are in first place and control your destiny. You lose, you can probably kiss the division away to Denver and go on the road for playoffs.