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#76 | |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 14,184
Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!! |
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It takes a little time for a guy to make his way back from injury. Hell, look at Von. Uninjured, but his time off has him playing at a level below his normal production. I can't give up on Champ this easily. Guy has been too good for too long to just be done. |
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#77 |
bronco fan: day 1, 1960
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in the kitchen
Posts: 9,601
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![]() many of you have failed to see champs decline because for years he was essentially unchallenged, QBs just looked and threw elsewhere.
combine that with the cloud of hero worship that difuses the rea;lity of what champs skill level has become and those same loyal, devoted #24 wearin' fans become crocodile bait. they are in de-nile. |
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#78 |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 1,102
Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning |
![]() I want to see Champ get in game shape these last four games and then see himself and DRC play together in the playoffs with Harris covering the slot. Things will be totally different with this defense.
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#79 | |
bronco fan: day 1, 1960
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in the kitchen
Posts: 9,601
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he is older, slower, and most importaNTLY, exposed ! I said he would be challenged more after the ravens game, long before his liz franc injury. |
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#80 |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,393
Adopt-a-Bronco: Casey Kreiter |
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#81 |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,393
Adopt-a-Bronco: Casey Kreiter |
![]() Hai Gais,
Jerry Rice was only da goat cauze QBs throed him all dos ballz. If he didn't get throed ballz he wouldn uf cached em. |
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#82 | |
Karma
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 16,155
Adopt-a-Bronco: Elway |
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He's got a point. Just watch some of the games last season, and in particular the two games we played against Baltimore, he got exposed, sorry, it is what it is, and I love Champ to death, he's a great Bronco player and wish him nothing but the best, but you've got to take things for what they are, and Champ is done, no question about it. Can he still play? Yes he can, but not at the dominat level he once did... |
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#83 |
Opinionated A******
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mesa AZ til May
Posts: 7,875
Adopt-a-Bronco: Off. CENTER |
![]() Champ can still help us this year. He actually did do allright in coverage yesterday in the first half, although he didn't make any pass breakups or great plays. He gave up some completions but no big plays.
More than anything his after game comments of it being a "young mans game" etc, sound to me like a confidence and conditioning issue. He did say his foot did NOT bother him. And none of us know if he was asked to go in on the late drive and he declined , or what. We certainly could have used him, but it is what it is. Klis ' "benched " comments and article are not whole cloth, but more of his tendencies to write crap and draw conclusions based on his own opinions. If he needs time to work back into game shape by working in a steadily increasing number of snaps...ok. Then he should be ready after another 3-4 games. But it is clear that DRC is our #1, and we need him back on the field, more than Champ. If Champ can help at #2 or #3 then so be it. He will not move to safety this year. Next year is next year, and I'm sure that the FO will tell Champ what they think after the season. I would not pay him his contract as it is. Therefore a restructure or other option is likely. For now the goal this year is still to go to and Win the Superbowl. the coaches will put the best team out there they can. |
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#84 |
1st Amendment Protection
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Narcville, USA
Posts: 2,481
Adopt-a-Bronco: Travis Henry |
![]() Thank god there still a handful of posters like Eddie Mac and Fontaine on this board to counter the hordes of morons who can't write sentences properly or brag about how they "don't breakdown film" and "don't rewatch games."
But hey, lotta idiots on the orangemane. What else is new? |
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#85 |
"Born A Broncos Fan"
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 7,072
Adopt-a-Bronco: Rick Upchurch |
![]() Frankly I'm far more concerned with the lackluster play of Duke Ihenacho lately than I am with Champ Bailey.
Duke has had several really poor games in the latest stretch. He doesn't look remotely close to what we saw during pre-season and the first few weeks of the regular season. He can't cover 1 on 1 and he's not a factor in the run game. He's not making those big hits we were hoping for either. |
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#86 |
Facta Non Verba
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 1,267
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![]() Should pull a Ray Lewis and announce his impending retirement for playoff mojo
or, you know, convert to safety. |
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#87 |
A new beginning!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Denver
Posts: 34,238
Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP |
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#88 | |
Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 23,367
Adopt-a-Bronco: CJ |
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In the regular season game against Baltimore, Champ gave up ONE meaningless reception on a ridiculous sideline catch. ONE. Flacco had less than 100 yards going into the 4th quarter of that game. Once garbage time came along, he threw for a little over 100 yds and 2 TDs....with almost all those yards and both TDs to TE Dennis Pitta, who Champ was not covering. There are highlights of both plays online here in case you don't believe me: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201212...yze=playbyplay Also, Champ only gave up one TD the entire regular season last year, so I'd love to know where else he got exposed other than the one playoff game, where everyone on D sucked. |
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#89 |
I WANT DEFENSE!
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Always Hoping
Posts: 17,784
Adopt-a-Bronco: John Mobley |
![]() I would love to see him get a ring. Sadly, it is time to hang up the CB cleats, but how great to go out a Champ.
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#90 | |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 27,928
Adopt-a-Bronco: None |
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#91 |
1st Amendment Protection
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Narcville, USA
Posts: 2,481
Adopt-a-Bronco: Travis Henry |
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#92 |
1st Amendment Protection
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Narcville, USA
Posts: 2,481
Adopt-a-Bronco: Travis Henry |
![]() Anyone got the PFF numbers on Champ? (Both for last season, and the games he's played this season?)
Or we just going off Bronco OTM and Chef Luigi's "fan vision?" |
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#93 | |
Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 23,367
Adopt-a-Bronco: CJ |
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Denver’s Cornerbacks vs. Baltimore’s Wide Receivers In the defensive backfield in Denver, cornerback Champ Bailey continues to be as reliable as always, allowing just the one touchdown pass to be completed in his coverage in 2012. While he hasn’t made many plays on the ball, with just two interceptions and two pass breakups, he has allowed just three receptions of 20 yards or more, limiting big plays from opposing receivers. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...avens-week-15/ |
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#94 |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Mountains
Posts: 2,021
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![]() "Fan Vision" dude. You don't need stats, education, knowledge, slow motion etc.. when you have Fan Vision.
Get with it. |
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#95 | |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Durango
Posts: 1,124
Adopt-a-Bronco: None |
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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better. |
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#96 |
Athletic Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 23,367
Adopt-a-Bronco: CJ |
![]() After 2012 regular season:
This season Bailey has been responsible for stopping the opposition’s top receiver, and has done so while leading the league in Yards per Coverage Snap, with 0.82. He has done especially well during the Past five games — teams have avoided him, throwing his way only 16 times, and Bailey allowed just half of them to be caught for 85 yards. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...fc-divisional/ |
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#97 |
Busting off 2k
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wilson, NC
Posts: 19,159
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![]() This thread could use a double tap to the back of the head.
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#98 | |
bronco fan: day 1, 1960
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in the kitchen
Posts: 9,601
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if you cant comprehend the concept of "living off reputation" can you not see how stoopid that makes you look? I know you aint stoopid. Qbs had easier paths of less resistense. Why throw at champ when we always had some clown on the other side of the field or some poor excuse for a pass defender covering their TE? or the countless times their #3 receiver had a career game against us while champ just followed his assignment to the bathroom. |
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#99 |
Gambling is a SIN^^^^^^
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 13,714
Adopt-a-Bronco: None |
![]() Champ is a dairy cow that quit producing milk so it is time to take him out back and turn him into hamburger.
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#100 | |
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 27,928
Adopt-a-Bronco: None |
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If anything, the dropoff to this year says maybe we're missing Champ more than we think. |
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