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Old 11-22-2013, 01:40 PM   #101
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The majority of Americans do not believe the Warren Commission & believe that Oswald did not act alone.


If we are just pulling rabbits out a hat!

My bet would be a joint effort by the Mafia and Castro that had mutual hate the Kennedy's. Bobby Kennedy being next on the hit list for efforts to crack down on organized crime.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:47 PM   #102
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Reading this over the weekend on recommendation from a buddy.

Thank you, I'll have to get it. Tell me one thing though as you are reading it. Does it indicate that it had anything to do with Kennedy wanting to pull out of Vietnam?

It's just amazing the memories I have of that time. It was devastating, even for a 9 year old. The whole world stopped. Adults were crying and eyes were glued to the TV for 4 days. Watching another man get shot, this time on live TV was scary. Watching a 3 year old salute his father was heartbreaking. Watching his sister reach under the flag and touch her fathers casket also heartbreaking. Just a mind boggling time that was difficult to grasp.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:59 PM   #104
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The Kennedy Assassination : 50 Years Later

By Paul Craig Roberts


November 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House - November 22, 2013, is the 50th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The true story of JFK’s murder has never been officially admitted, although the conclusion that JFK was murdered by a plot involving the Secret Service, the CIA, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff has been well established by years of research, such as that provided by James W. Douglass in his book, JFK And The Unspeakable, published by Simon & Schuster in 2008. Ignore Douglass’ interest in the Trappist monk Thomas Merton and Merton’s prediction and focus on the heavily documented research that Douglass provides.

Or just turn to the contemporary films, taken by tourists watching JFK’s motorcade that are available on YouTube, which show clearly the Secret Service pulled from President Kennedy’s limo just prior to his assassination, and the Zapruder film that shows the killing shot to have come from President Kennedy’s right front, blowing off the back of his head, not from the rear as postulated in the Warren Commission Report, which would have pushed his head forward, not rearward.

I am not going to write about the assassination to the extent that the massive information permits. Those who want to know already know. Those who cannot face the music will never be able to confront the facts regardless of what I or anyone else writes or reveals.

To briefly review, the facts are conclusive that JFK was on terrible terms with the CIA and the Joint Chiefs. He had refused to support the CIA organized Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. He had rejected the Joint Chiefs’ “Operation Northwoods,” a plan to commit real and faked acts of violence against Americans, blame Castro and use the false flag events to bring regime change to Cuba. He had rejected the Joint Chiefs case that the Soviet Union should be attacked while the US held the advantage and before the Soviets could develop delivery systems for nuclear weapons. He had indicated that after his reelection he was going to pull US troops out of Vietnam and that he was going to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. He had aroused suspicion by working behind the scenes with Khrushchev to defuse the Cuban Missile Crisis, leading to claims that he was “soft on communism.” The CIA and Joint Chiefs’ belief that JFK was an unreliable ally in the war against communism spread into the Secret Service.

It has been established that the original autopsy of JFK’s fatal head wound was discarded and a faked one substituted in order to support the official story that Oswald shot JFK from behind. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and President Johnson knew that Oswald was the CIA’s patsy, but they also understood, as did members of the Warren Commission, that to let the true story out would cause Americans to lose confidence in their own government at the height of the Cold War.

Robert Kennedy knew what had happened. He was on his way to being elected president and to holding the plotters accountable for the murder of his brother when the CIA assassinated him. A distinguished journalist, who was standing behind Robert Kennedy at the time of his assassination, told me that the killing shots came from behind past his ear. He submitted his report to the FBI and was never contacted.

Acoustic experts have conclusively demonstrated that more shots were fired than can be accounted for by Sirhan Sirhan’s pistol and that the sounds indicate two different calibers of firearms.

I never cease to be amazed by the gullibility of Americans, who know nothing about either event, but who confidently dismiss the factual evidence provided by experts and historians on the basis of their naive belief that “the government wouldn’t lie about such important events” or “someone would have talked.” What good would it do if someone talked when the gullible won’t believe hard evidence?


Secret Service pulled from JFK’s limo
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/11/j...t-watch-video/

Zapruder film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvmHYqfdbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q91RZko5Gw

James W. Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, Simon & Schuster, 2008

Operation Northwoods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:44 PM   #105
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[...]and the Zapruder film that shows the killing shot to have come from President Kennedy’s right front, blowing off the back of his head[...]
Bull****.

The back of Kennedy's head was not blown off.

You're a ****ing liar, gaffe. So is Roberts.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:46 PM   #106
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You don't really know the truth either, W*GS.
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You don't really know the truth either, W*GS.
One doesn't need to know exactly what happened perfectly to detect a giant load of horse**** coming from gaffe and those whom he serves as bukkake boy.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:59 AM   #108
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the shill has spoken.

it must be so.
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:07 PM   #109
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Im no forensic analyst but I can see on the Zapruder film the right front of JFK's skull blown open. That is an exit wound. Full metal jacket bullets tend not to cause that type of violent expansion. Seems like a completely different type of round than the bullet that traversed the president's superior thorax, traveling through the governor, and found intact with minimal damage. It seems like common sense to me that the headshot was a hollow point or similar round. It also seems like common sense to me that a hollow point round would have expanded and caused a devastating exit wound on the anterior chest or neck of the president. I dont understand how anyone with a basic concet of terminal ballistic effects can think otherwise. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but those were two markedly different bullets.
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I was thinking about "conspiracy":

Did every german citizen conspire to knowingly terminate the millions that perished? How what or why enabled that to happen?
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:30 PM   #111
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Im no forensic analyst but I can see on the Zapruder film the right front of JFK's skull blown open. That is an exit wound. Full metal jacket bullets tend not to cause that type of violent expansion. Seems like a completely different type of round than the bullet that traversed the president's superior thorax, traveling through the governor, and found intact with minimal damage. It seems like common sense to me that the headshot was a hollow point or similar round. It also seems like common sense to me that a hollow point round would have expanded and caused a devastating exit wound on the anterior chest or neck of the president. I dont understand how anyone with a basic concet of terminal ballistic effects can think otherwise. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but those were two markedly different bullets.
James Files says he fired one shot at JFK from the grassy knoll -- using a Remington fireball -- with scope. He says he used a mercury bullet -- which would explain the huge hole in the back of JFK's head.

That's a 22 caliber shell.

Back in the 1990s a former FBI agent began proceedings to exhume JFK's remains to examine the skull. If mercury was used it should still be in evidence. The agent came down with a very aggressive cancer and was dead in a matter of weeks -- before he succeeded in procuring a court order.

Needless to say, his mysterious death has raised questions.

The small size of the hole in JFK's right temple establishes the fact it was an entry wound. This was the conclusion of the doctors at Parkland hospital. MHG
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James Files says he fired one shot at JFK from the grassy knoll -- using a Remington fireball -- with scope. He says he used a mercury bullet -- which would explain the huge hole in the back of JFK's head.
There was no huge hole in the back of JFK's head. That was the entry of Oswald's 3rd round.

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The small size of the hole in JFK's right temple establishes the fact it was an entry wound. This was the conclusion of the doctors at Parkland hospital. MHG
There was no "small" hole in JFK's right temple.

Goddamn, but you're a ****ing gratuitous liar.
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James Files says he fired one shot at JFK from the grassy knoll -- using a Remington fireball -- with scope. He says he used a mercury bullet -- which would explain the huge hole in the back of JFK's head.

That's a 22 caliber shell.

Back in the 1990s a former FBI agent began proceedings to exhume JFK's remains to examine the skull. If mercury was used it should still be in evidence. The agent came down with a very aggressive cancer and was dead in a matter of weeks -- before he succeeded in procuring a court order.

Needless to say, his mysterious death has raised questions.

The small size of the hole in JFK's right temple establishes the fact it was an entry wound. This was the conclusion of the doctors at Parkland hospital. MHG
You must be blind. The Zapruper film shows his right temporal skull exploding in possibly the most graphic fashion imaginable. That is not an entrance wound, nor did it leave a "small hole."

The point in which the president becomes initially wounded causes a visible and simultaneous pain reflex by both the president and the governor. JFK's anterior neck exit wound was so insignificant that a surgical tracheostomy obscured it. The governor's wounds caused by the same shot were relatively insignificant as well, despite passing through two people and glancing off vertebrae/ribs/radius. There is no way the same type of bullet that caused the initial wounds was similar to the one that caused JFK's temporal scalp to violently explode. The entire anterior neck would have similarly exploded.
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You must be blind. The Zapruper film shows his right temporal skull exploding in possibly the most graphic fashion imaginable. That is not an entrance wound, nor did it leave a "small hole."

The point in which the president becomes initially wounded causes a visible and simultaneous pain reflex by both the president and the governor. JFK's anterior neck exit wound was so insignificant that a surgical tracheostomy obscured it. The governor's wounds caused by the same shot were relatively insignificant as well, despite passing through two people and glancing off vertebrae/ribs/radius. There is no way the same type of bullet that caused the initial wounds was similar to the one that caused JFK's temporal scalp to violently explode. The entire anterior neck would have similarly exploded.
The throat wound was not an exit wound - it was an entry wound. One of the surgeons at Parkland Hospital later wrote a book in 1992 about this -- but it received almost no media attention.

Here's the book -- available at amazon.
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There was no "small" hole in JFK's right temple.

Goddamn, but you're a ****ing gratuitous liar.
Check out the photos taken at Parkland Hospital. They clearly show the terrible wound at the back of JFK's head. This was no entry wound.

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html
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Here's the reissued 1992 book about what the doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas saw on the day of the assassination.

Written by one of them, Dr Charles Crenshaw.

These emergency room doctors were the first medical professionals to see JFK and examine JFK after the shooting. They had al seen gunshot wounds -- and knew an entry wound when they saw one.

All of them recognized JFK's throat wound as an entry wound. Yet, their testimony was not included in the Warren Commission Report. The answer why not? is obvious. Their testimony would haver exposed the official story for what it was -- a lie.

The doctors at Parkland were warned to never speak about what they had seen. They feared for their lives if they told what they knew. But one of them spoke out anyway. MHG
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Check out the photos taken at Parkland Hospital. They clearly show the terrible wound at the back of JFK's head. This was no entry wound.
Bull****.

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The jerks think they know more than the emergency room doctors who examined JFK.

Some chutzpah.

It's a new low -- even for the OM.
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The jerks think they know more than the emergency room doctors who examined JFK.
There was no entry wound to JFK's head from the front, and the back of his head wasn't blown apart.

The facts show you wrong. No matter how much lame name-calling you engage in.
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There was no entry wound to JFK's head from the front, and the back of his head wasn't blown apart.

The facts show you wrong. No matter how much lame name-calling you engage in.
Dr Crenshaw was in the emergency room at Parkland Hospital -- and says the wound in JFK's throat was an entry wound.

W*gs thinks he knows better than the doctor.

This is the sort of arrogant idiocy that has made our nation the laughing stock of the world -- and despised. MHG
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If only we could turn back time. . .
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Dr Crenshaw was in the emergency room at Parkland Hospital -- and says the wound in JFK's throat was an entry wound.

W*gs thinks he knows better than the doctor.

This is the sort of arrogant idiocy that has made our nation the laughing stock of the world -- and despised. MHG
Remember your own words the next time you're arrogant enough to dismiss every engineering expert when discussing 911.
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Dr Crenshaw was in the emergency room at Parkland Hospital -- and says the wound in JFK's throat was an entry wound.

W*gs thinks he knows better than the doctor.
Moving goalposts, again.

The fatal shot was from the rear and blew the right side of JFK's head apart. It did *not* come from the front and destroy the back of his head.

Quit being such a ****ing liar. But then you'd have to completely silence yourself.
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Remember your own words the next time you're arrogant enough to dismiss every engineering expert when discussing 911.
gaffe doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

He's one of the most clueless and ignorant dickheads I've ever met in 25+ years of being online.
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I looked at the thread title and wondered why we're still rattling about this 50 years later.

Then I saw "Gaffney."
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