OrangeMane Podcast - Episode 38 - @ San Diego - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 11-13-2013, 01:02 AM

randerson1184 · 11-13-2013, 04:53 AM

Woohoo! The podcasts have been great this season. Thanks!

CEH · 11-13-2013, 05:09 AM

Good show

I'd say if DT went down this offense with it's Oline issues would be a dink and dunk offense. Knowshown is a valuable cog but DT make this offense explosive. Id rather go with other RBs than without DT but that's just my opinion

In addition, the fallacy is that a Max protect line is the answer to help the protect Manning when it was confirmed by JDR and Gruden that the Max Protect gets the QB hit as much as a normal line call in fact Manning was injured in a max protect call that's why I think the Oline needs to chip more not Max protect

v2micca · 11-13-2013, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CEH

Good show

I'd say if DT went down this offense with it's Oline issues would be a dink and dunk offense. Knowshown is a valuable cog but DT make this offense explosive. Id rather go with other RBs than without DT but that's just my opinion

In addition, the fallacy is that a Max protect line is the answer to help the protect Manning when it was confirmed by JDR and Gruden that the Max Protect gets the QB hit as much as a normal line call in fact Manning was injured in a max protect call that's why I think the Oline needs to chip more not Max protect

Yeah, I was listening to them on the drive in this morning and found that little tidbit interesting. But, it does make sense. Peyton likes to get rid of the ball quickly, and in a max protect with three receiving options against a six man zone, it is going to take longer for someone to get open.

I think the best way to keep Peyton upright are route combinations that include a heavy dose of quick slants, inside rubs, screens, and play action. Let the Tight Ends and running back chip on their way into their routes, but don't keep them in the pocket. I've seen just as many QBs hurt when they were rolled on by their own guy.

Miss I. · 11-13-2013, 05:53 AM

Excellent podcast. Thank you for answering the question. I was particularly interested in SoCal's additional information. I realize it was not the most technically interesting of questions, but I appreciate the clarification of the rule. I didn't want to get too caught up in the "Brady" rule aspect because that seems like a more subjective assumption. I seem to recall when Peyton was not our team that rule used to be nicknamed the Manning/Brady rule and I agree that in most cases as Rev asserted Manning gets the calls. That one last hit seemed very blatant (regardless of intent which the rule doesn't seem to address) and I'd seen lesser obvious hits called and there was an earlier hit that seemed a bit questionable as well. Well as long as we don't go all crazy and start threads about sitting Peyton for the KC game we will be just fine.

Thanks again gentlemen. Excellent as always.

CEH · 11-13-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

In theory I agree with you, but here's where you're wrong:

- On only 5 of 38 passing plays, we have more than our 5 OL pass blocking

- The Chargers brought 5 a LOT more than 38 times.

- A free runner GUARANTEES Peyton AT LEAST gets hit.

We can't have that. A healthy Peyton in January is much more important than 2 or 3 more first downs.

I don't think Max Protect guarantees Manning stays upright. The best way to make sure Manning is healthy is let him sit and get healthy

we are going to make the playoffs

Be interesting see what direction they go this Sunday then we can discuss

BowlenBall · 11-13-2013, 07:39 AM

Consarned #^&#$@!&$ new-fangled technology -- how do I download the episode? I don't see a link anywhere....

DENVERDUI55 · 11-13-2013, 07:51 AM

Am I missing something on how to download these podcasts now? I got a galaxy 4 and I can't seem to get it to play.

ColoradoDarin · 11-13-2013, 08:02 AM

McCoy a better HC than OC? - Med told me to call it:

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McCoy was good at adapting and implementing different schemes to suit personnel, he was not so good at play calling. Which is why he'll be a better HC than OC.

Kaylore · 11-13-2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

McCoy a better HC than OC? - Med told me to call it:

Yeah Med Called it here too.

TonyR · 11-13-2013, 08:54 AM

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...heavy doses of “max protect” could actually lead to more hits on Manning.

“Ironically, that’s the natural way to start (thinking) is to pack more in,” said Del Rio, Denver’s interim head coach. “But quarterbacks are actually hit more often when you pack them in. And they’re hit far more often in maximum protection. In fact, one of the times he was hit Sunday was on a max protection and the tight end got beat.”

When a team packs players in to provide the QB more security, linebackers occupy the rushing lanes and are closer to the quarterback.

Keeping extra protectors in the backfield also opens the possibility of more defenders crashing the quarterback’s pocket of protection, disrupting his throws.

So, the high-scoring Broncos will stick with their spread offense, which in turn spreads the defense.

Read more at http://gazette.com/broncos-shun-ploy...HAMvwVoZJAF.99

SoCalBronco · 11-13-2013, 09:36 AM

No love for Guile's theme: The Fresh Prince version?

In light of that does Manning's pass protection really matter anymore?

SoCalBronco · 11-13-2013, 09:36 AM

No love for Guile's theme: The Fresh Prince version?

In light of that does Manning's pass protection really matter anymore?

CEH · 11-13-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

It does guarantee, however, that someone doesn't have a clear, unimpeded shot with a full head of steam on the ONLY guy on the team that's irreplaceable.

How many times this season has a player had a free shot at Manning? I can't remember one.

Taco John · 11-13-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall

Consarned #^&#$@!&$ new-fangled technology -- how do I download the episode? I don't see a link anywhere....

I see the problem, but I won't be able to fix it until tonight... Sorry...

CEH · 11-13-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

For real? I'd say at least double digits.

A free runner with a full head of steam is your definition and I would have to see these double digit free rushers with a free shot

broncogary · 11-13-2013, 05:21 PM

Go to soundcloud.

Use search and enter "orangemane"

Podcast should pop up.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-13-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by broncogary

Go to soundcloud.

Use search and enter "orangemane"

Podcast should pop up.

It won't let you download it though.

El Guapo · 11-13-2013, 06:53 PM

Last week i could download it, this week you can only stream. Taco said hes working on a fix. Ill be patient.

pricejj · 11-13-2013, 09:52 PM

Hey Kaylore, Del Rio alluded to 4-minute offense (during one of his "HC" pressers) as being the point of emphasis for the Offense coming out of the bye, after a reporter mentioned the aggressive play-calling to closeout the Chargers game.

pricejj · 11-13-2013, 10:11 PM

Great podcast btw, guys...

Perfect way to wrap up the win, and turn focus towards next Sunday.

SoCalBronco · 11-13-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Yeah Med Called it here too.

Miss I. · 11-14-2013, 03:53 PM

Thought you would all like to know that, That's Good Broncos posted a link to this podcast on his facebook page. that is all. carry on.

CEH · 11-15-2013, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Schlereth is on Sports Center right now talking about our OL woes coming down to Peyton wanting all his guys out on routes instead of helping in protection. Curious timing, sir.

Funny he was on the local radio Tuesday with Tom Nalen and was agreeing with Nalen that Denver doesn't need more protection because of their spread offense

I'd take Mark with a grain of salt

Kaylore · 11-15-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Hey Kaylore, Del Rio alluded to 4-minute offense (during one of his "HC" pressers) as being the point of emphasis for the Offense coming out of the bye, after a reporter mentioned the aggressive play-calling to closeout the Chargers game.

Yeah I heard that. I don't think that's the same thing. This was two things, one for each unit, that he wrote on the board and said the team needed to work on. And he said he was keeping those two things in house for some reason. Rahim Moore was on a local Broncos show here too and referenced that they were doing drills on these "things" and said he was not going to mention them publicly for whatever reason.

I suspect for offense it was turnovers. No idea for defense. Maybe penalties?

Also thrilled with TGB putting our podcast up. We're not worthy.

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11-13-2013, 09:36 AM	#12
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11-13-2013, 09:36 AM	#13
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Monrovia, CA Posts: 47,473 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	No love for Guile's theme: The Fresh Prince version? In light of that does Manning's pass protection really matter anymore? __________________ San Francisco 49ers OrangeMane Mock Draft GM 1. Bradley Chubb, DE NC State 3A. Austin Corbett, G Nevada 3B. Marcell Ateman, WR Oklahoma State 4A. Parry Nickerson, CB Tulane 4B. Oren Burks, S/"Big Nickel"/OLB/Star Vanderbilt (MUG's No. 1 overall prospect) 5. Josh Adams, RB Notre Dame 6. Matthew Thomas, OLB Florida State 7A. Cole Madison, G Washington State 7B. Natrell Jamerson, FS Wisconsin

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11-13-2013, 04:53 AM	#2
randerson1184 Camp Arm 2015 Super Bowl Champions! Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 992 Adopt-a-Bronco: DeMarcus Ware	Woohoo! The podcasts have been great this season. Thanks!

11-13-2013, 05:09 AM	#3
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,497	Good show I'd say if DT went down this offense with it's Oline issues would be a dink and dunk offense. Knowshown is a valuable cog but DT make this offense explosive. Id rather go with other RBs than without DT but that's just my opinion In addition, the fallacy is that a Max protect line is the answer to help the protect Manning when it was confirmed by JDR and Gruden that the Max Protect gets the QB hit as much as a normal line call in fact Manning was injured in a max protect call that's why I think the Oline needs to chip more not Max protect

11-13-2013, 05:53 AM	#5
Miss I. Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: TailGateNutBaja	Excellent podcast. Thank you for answering the question. I was particularly interested in SoCal's additional information. I realize it was not the most technically interesting of questions, but I appreciate the clarification of the rule. I didn't want to get too caught up in the "Brady" rule aspect because that seems like a more subjective assumption. I seem to recall when Peyton was not our team that rule used to be nicknamed the Manning/Brady rule and I agree that in most cases as Rev asserted Manning gets the calls. That one last hit seemed very blatant (regardless of intent which the rule doesn't seem to address) and I'd seen lesser obvious hits called and there was an earlier hit that seemed a bit questionable as well. Well as long as we don't go all crazy and start threads about sitting Peyton for the KC game we will be just fine. Thanks again gentlemen. Excellent as always.

11-13-2013, 07:39 AM	#7
BowlenBall UDFA War Daddy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 6,397 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jake Butt	Consarned #^&#$@!&$ new-fangled technology -- how do I download the episode? I don't see a link anywhere....

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DENVERDUI55 Gambling is a SIN^^^^^^ New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 13,713 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Am I missing something on how to download these podcasts now? I got a galaxy 4 and I can't seem to get it to play.

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broncogary Horse Player and Dimwit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6,247	Go to soundcloud. Use search and enter "orangemane" Podcast should pop up.

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El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 4,735	Last week i could download it, this week you can only stream. Taco said hes working on a fix. Ill be patient.

11-13-2013, 09:52 PM	#20
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 21,557	Hey Kaylore, Del Rio alluded to 4-minute offense (during one of his "HC" pressers) as being the point of emphasis for the Offense coming out of the bye, after a reporter mentioned the aggressive play-calling to closeout the Chargers game.

11-13-2013, 10:11 PM	#21
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 21,557	Great podcast btw, guys... Perfect way to wrap up the win, and turn focus towards next Sunday.

11-14-2013, 03:53 PM	#23
Miss I. Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: TailGateNutBaja	Thought you would all like to know that, That's Good Broncos posted a link to this podcast on his facebook page. that is all. carry on.