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("Despicable" is one of those words that when I read it, I always picture Dan Dierdork saying it. "Dethpicable.") |
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![]() Public service/property is a fundamentally different animal from socializing individual risk.
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#103 |
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The government milks Hospitals for every nickel, now you want to tell me they only care about what's best. ![]() |
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#105 |
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![]() Bottom line is Obama and his admin. lied. Millions are not going to be able to keep the plans they want as promised. Somehow Obama thinks he knows what a "good" plan is or isn't when in reality people's own insurance is none of his business. Obama wants to play God, like a true liberal, and decide what is the best insurance plan. And his defenders look like babbling idiots(yeah, I know, nothing new there) defending this complete fiasco. "Oh, it's working." What total fools. But they need this to work since government looking lost and incompetent ruins their narrative of life, so Obama's media has their cheerleading outfits on and downplaying the stupidity of the website not working and pretending the cancellation letters are just imagination and some right wing conspiracy.
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#106 |
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![]() I consider the government "us," or at least that's what I think we should strive for. You consider it the enemy.
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![]() Saw some serious sparks flying today at the hospital. Was there for a routine sonogram with my wife as she's pregnant. Many mothers were notified that they'd their insurance contract was dropped. The staff told each couple "You can pay $700 if you want the sonogram". One after another walked out. One guy was cussing out the staff and hammering Obamacare.
It's here. "Be careful what you wished for". |
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#110 |
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#111 |
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![]() Aren't we talking about only 5% of the population here getting notices? Is this incorrect?
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You haven't read the Gettysburg Address? Why am I not surprised? |
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Now white house claims 5% or 15,000,000. So if they are claiming 5% you can bet the number is much much higher. Only time will tell. |
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What you're seeing is only the tip of the iceberg. And the President's promises already ring hollow. |
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#118 |
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![]() Keep creating these bull**** associations in order to protect your dogma. It's laughable to watch the Right Winger desperation at work.
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![]() No question. Obama made numerous speeches telling people "you can keep your insurance." There were no "buts" included in any of them. And it's not just rich people who are being hurt in this. Many people who can not afford a hike in their premiums are being affected and liked the coverage they had. It is unbelievable how Obama supporters actually think it is their business what coverage you should have and determine if the one you have had is "good enough." Funny how liberals like to proclaim they are the ones for tolerance and getting out of people's lives and protecting rights, yet they support crap like this. Hypocrites.
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![]() 15% uninsured is a travesty of Capitalism requiring Trillion dollar Government interventions to hopefully maybe get it down to 10%.
5% losing their insurance immediately because of that intervention is an asterisk not worth talking about. |
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![]() Are there actually 5% of people legitimately losing their health insurance or are they being automatically enrolled in a similar plan that conforms to what is required by the ACA? Because I got a notice of the latter myself. I'm not losing my insurance, but I am not going to be covered under the same plan I was initially (because it didn't conform to the new standards).
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One, if you're anywhere near subsidy eligible, you shouldn't purchase insurance directly from the company. It has to go through the exchange (which doesn't work) or you can't receive the federal subsidy. Two, the health networks are potentially much more restrictive than many people are used to. And there's not a lot of good information yet on which providers plans will cover. If you're the kind of person who has a near-intimate relationship with a provider, you'll probably want to do the leg work to make sure whatever they're moving you to (or that you pick on your own) covers the providers you want to see. |
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#125 |
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