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Old 10-18-2013, 10:02 PM   #226
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Boehner has to be the weakest Speaker this country has ever had.

Look at the vote! He recommends his party pass the Senate resolution and 144 members of his caucus vote no. And then Boehner comes out giving the victory shake with his fist? What a clown.

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Old 10-19-2013, 08:01 PM   #227
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The shutdown: When Republicans turned on each other

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-vs-gop-the-shutdown

...Grover Norquist, the anti-tax Republican who’s rarely known as a moderate, accused Cruz of dragging his party “across broken glass for no purpose” with his doomed plan to destroy the Affordable Care Act.

“Ted Cruz and the people around him said that anyone who didn’t follow his direction on this was a Nazi appeaser,” Norquist told Newsmax TV....
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

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According to the survey, 54% say it's a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber. Only 38% say it's a good thing the GOP controls the House, a 13-point dive from the end of last year.

This is the first time since the Republicans won back control of the House in the 2010 midterm elections that a majority say their control of the chamber is bad for the country.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:21 AM   #229
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This is the first time since the Republicans won back control of the House in the 2010 midterm elections that a majority say their control of the chamber is bad for the country.
The Bush years should be all the evidence anyone will ever need.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:18 PM   #230
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Great job Boner!

CNN Poll: 75% say most Republicans in Congress don't deserve re-election

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"Although incumbent members of Congress of both parties are not very popular, the shutdown seems to have only affected views of GOP incumbents," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.

Three-fourths of people questioned in the survey said that most congressional Republicans don't deserved to be re-elected, 21 percentage points higher than the 54% who say most Democrats don't deserve another term in office. Only one in five say most Republicans deserve to be re-elected; 42% say the same thing about Democrats on Capitol Hill.


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Old 10-21-2013, 09:50 PM   #231
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With the way they've gerrymandered the country, I don't really think it matters.
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With the way they've gerrymandered the country, I don't really think it matters.
Until we come up with a reasonably objective way to set up house districts, the House of Representatives will remain sadly highly unrepresentative.
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After all the government shutdown BS and Obama crying that he won't negotiate the mandate. Guess what. They are ready to negotiate the mandate. So who is really do blame for the unwillingness to negotiate now when the right thing all along was DELAY THE ****ING MANDATE!

Funny how that works. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...dist=afterbell
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After all the government shutdown BS and Obama crying that he won't negotiate the mandate. Guess what. They are ready to negotiate the mandate. So who is really do blame for the unwillingness to negotiate now when the right thing all along was DELAY THE ****ING MANDATE!

Funny how that works. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...dist=afterbell
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:17 PM   #235
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After all the government shutdown BS and Obama crying that he won't negotiate the mandate. Guess what. They are ready to negotiate the mandate. So who is really do blame for the unwillingness to negotiate now when the right thing all along was DELAY THE ****ING MANDATE!

Funny how that works. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...dist=afterbell
Given the failure of the website launch, I doubt they had much of a choice.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:02 PM   #236
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Until we come up with a reasonably objective way to set up house districts, the House of Representatives will remain sadly highly unrepresentative.
I'd prefer citizens commissions assisted by computer-based demographic analysis.

None of this partisan legislature-driven safe-seats-for-all-eternity bullshart.
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After all the government shutdown BS and Obama crying that he won't negotiate the mandate. Guess what. They are ready to negotiate the mandate. So who is really do blame for the unwillingness to negotiate now when the right thing all along was DELAY THE ****ING MANDATE!

Funny how that works. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...dist=afterbell
The republicans wanted the mandate to be delayed for an entire year. There is no evidence that the Obama administration is considering such a long delay.

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Old 10-23-2013, 08:45 PM   #238
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The citizen mandate should not go in before the business mandate does. that is like some sort of conservative move done by the liberals. Its like bizzarro world because its big biz that has all the money right? not the people? Now i read obamacare super expensive in rural poor areas lol. I thought liberals tried to help poor people? This law is written poorly and what really needs to happen is both parties get together and fix it somehow. Trying to force total repeal to embarassing for liberals they will never do it. Repubs should focus on trying to create laws that really drive down costs and create more competition in the insurance markets. They are blowing it and have no leadership.
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After all the government shutdown BS and Obama crying that he won't negotiate the mandate. Guess what. They are ready to negotiate the mandate. So who is really do blame for the unwillingness to negotiate now when the right thing all along was DELAY THE ****ING MANDATE!

Funny how that works. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...dist=afterbell
Exactly Obama owns the shutdown. All he had to do was just before shutdown offer up a yr delay to Obamacare. Now you watch he will delay it anyways. So lets say he only delays it 6 mos. That means Obama shut down the govt, did all that BS over 6 mos.

Obama is a horrid leader. The world govts hate us more now, Egypt hates us, Israel hates us, Russia pissed, the EU pissed, Brazil upset, Saudis pissed off, Iran heading towards a bomb and Obamacare a trainwreck.

Congrats on your hope and change.
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Exactly Obama owns the shutdown. All he had to do was just before shutdown offer up a yr delay to Obamacare. Now you watch he will delay it anyways. So lets say he only delays it 6 mos. That means Obama shut down the govt, did all that BS over 6 mos.
In reality he probably could've negotiated it down to 6 months. Although Politically, I'm not sure what that would've bought him. And we all know that the political angle is his one and only concern.
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Exactly Obama owns the shutdown. All he had to do was just before shutdown offer up a yr delay to Obamacare. Now you watch he will delay it anyways. So lets say he only delays it 6 mos. That means Obama shut down the govt, did all that BS over 6 mos.

Obama is a horrid leader. The world govts hate us more now, Egypt hates us, Israel hates us, Russia pissed, the EU pissed, Brazil upset, Saudis pissed off, Iran heading towards a bomb and Obamacare a trainwreck.

Congrats on your hope and change.
Again you're FOS as usual. The last thing any president should do is negotiate when extortion is being used as a negotiation tactic. Rethugs shutdown the government in hopes that obama & democrats would be weak and cave in to their extortion. It failed miserably. Everyone knowa it was rethugs that shutdown everything.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:26 AM   #242
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Exactly Obama owns the shutdown. All he had to do was just before shutdown offer up a yr delay to Obamacare. Now you watch he will delay it anyways. So lets say he only delays it 6 mos. That means Obama shut down the govt, did all that BS over 6 mos.

Obama is a horrid leader. The world govts hate us more now, Egypt hates us, Israel hates us, Russia pissed, the EU pissed, Brazil upset, Saudis pissed off, Iran heading towards a bomb and Obamacare a trainwreck.

Congrats on your hope and change.


Another of your unintentionally funny posts.
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