Kayvon Webster: What the draft analysts said about him - Page 14 - The Orange Mane

broncosteven · 08-26-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

I don't think there's a single game in the history of the Denver Broncos that gets talked about more on these boards than this one. It's pretty astonishing, really.

I like to b**** about the INT Plummer threw vs the 49ers in relief back in 2006.

There is Raheem's F'up and Michael Dean Perry's inability to get off the field on 4th down.

Requiem · 08-26-2013, 08:58 PM

Six CB for sure.

Lestat · 08-26-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

It's not an issue of "giving up on him" as much as it is a numbers game. He's basically the 6th CB, so it comes down to whether they keep 5 or 6.

No it's really not. They're not gonna cut a 2nd year guy who was drafted in the 4th round. Hell they kept Julius after 2 non productive years and they had paid 2 FA's pretty well to take the reigns and have Green producing fairly well as a blocker.

baja · 08-26-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

No it's really not. They're not gonna cut a 2nd year guy who was drafted in the 4th round. Hell they kept Julius after 2 non productive years and they had paid 2 FA's pretty well to take the reigns and have Green producing fairly well as a blocker.

They would not keep him just because he was drafted in the 4th round. They will keep him if value him in the top 53 players.

Lestat · 08-26-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

They would not keep him just because he was drafted in the 4th round. They will keep him if value him in the top 53 players.

A 4th round pick is too high of a selection to cut after one season.
Rarely do those guys get cut after less than 3 seasons unless there are other circumstances involved outside of just football.

baja · 08-26-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

A 4th round pick is too high of a selection to cut after one season.
Rarely do those guys get cut after less than 3 seasons unless there are other circumstances involved outside of just football.

If it comes down to a UDFA that outplays the 4th rounder who do you think makes the team.

R8R H8R · 08-26-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

If it comes down to a UDFA that outplays the 4th rounder who do you think makes the team.

Same position? Should be an easy call. Different positions? More complicated than just who out played who.

baja · 08-26-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by R8R H8R

Same position? Should be an easy call. Different positions? More complicated than just who out played who.

Obviously many factors go into who stays and who get cut but just because a guy was drafted in the 4th round that does not guarantee shiit unlike what the poster was claiming.

R8R H8R · 08-26-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

Obviously many factors go into who stays and who get cut but just because a guy was drafted in the 4th round that does not guarantee shiit unlike what the poster was claiming.

I said it before in another thread, but I think Blake will be Elway's 2nd draft pick cut. But I agree with Lestat that Bolden probably makes it at least one more year, if only for ST's.

baja · 08-26-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by R8R H8R

I said it before in another thread, but I think Blake will be Elway's 2nd draft pick cut. But I agree with Lestat that Bolden probably makes it at least one more year, if only for ST's.

I think he will make the team too but not because he was an Elway 4th rounder

Bigdawg26 · 08-26-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

If it comes down to a UDFA that outplays the 4th rounder who do you think makes the team.

In many teams besides the broncos, I think the 4th rounder would be kept. Elway has shown that the best man plays when Tony Carter, Woody, Duke, and Harris can be major players on defense. Also, late round picks like Malik and Danny get alot of PT over Q Carter, Bolden, Nasty Nate.

TonyR · 08-27-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

A 4th round pick is too high of a selection to cut after one season.

So you don't think Blake, who was taken in that same 4th round, might get cut? And I'm not saying Bolden will get cut. I was asking if people thought it was possible. He's definitely on the bubble, but I agree he probably sticks.

bowtown · 08-27-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

So you don't think Blake, who was taken in that same 4th round, might get cut? And I'm not saying Bolden will get cut. I was asking if people thought it was possible. He's definitely on the bubble, but I agree he probably sticks.

I think it's absolutely possible. Once you get into the 4th round and later of the draft there are going to be a lot of guys that just don't pan out. You are primarily hoping for good depth from those slots and the occasional value hit. I think that Bolden may be valuable enough on special teams to hold down a spot in order to give him another year to progress, but to hold a 4th round pick not panning out against a GM would be absurd and I don't think that they will lose any sleep over it if he ends up being shown the door.

I think the writing is most definitely on the wall for Blake though. I'd be very surprised if he survives the final cut down.

DENVERDUI55 · 09-24-2013, 09:37 AM

I didn't know much about this kid and most of the Orangemane GM's were saying this guy was a huge reach and was a bad pick. I like what I have seen so far out him. He has broke up several passes and he brings the big hits in the secondary.

Ray Finkle · 09-24-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I didn't know much about this kid and most of the Orangemane GM's were saying this guy was a huge reach and was a bad pick. I like what I have seen so far out him. He has broke up several passes and he brings the big hits in the secondary.

he reminds me of Ben Smith (CB back in the day) in the way he hits.....

Smith would have been a good CB if his knee held up.

SonOfLe-loLang · 09-24-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

he reminds me of Ben Smith (CB back in the day) in the way he hits.....

Smith would have been a good CB if his knee held up.

ben smith! What an odd comparison haha. Forgot about that guy.

Ray Finkle · 09-24-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

ben smith! What an odd comparison haha. Forgot about that guy.

one of my good friends growing up was a die hard eagles fan......I didn't hear the end of BS until he was traded to Denver.

SonOfLe-loLang · 09-24-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

one of my good friends growing up was a die hard eagles fan......I didn't hear the end of BS until he was traded to Denver.

What were your friends thoughts on Charles Dimry.

Ray Finkle · 09-24-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

What were your friends thoughts on Charles Dimry.

wow....that's a pull. I was in college about the time he was on the Eagles so I didn't how crazy good every Iggle player was.....

TonyR · 09-24-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

What were your friends thoughts on Charles Dimry.

They referred to his as "Toast" out here!

ZONA · 09-24-2013, 11:21 AM

I thought he had some good plays out there. Looks faster then I recall as well.

The Joker · 09-24-2013, 11:24 AM

Looks promising.

Raw, but the potential is there. If he can put it together and DRC can start playing like his talent level and get extended then we'll have some big, physical cornerback play for years to come.

Requiem · 09-24-2013, 11:27 AM

He is a little rough around the edges, but he has good speed and ball skills. Hopefully he can develop into a good weapon for us. With Carter out, he will see more PT.

BowlenBall · 09-24-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall

Don't forget all 32 participants of the Orange Mane Mock Draft -- no one thought much of him there, either.

Basically, it's Elway vs. the world on this one.

So far, the score is:

Elway 1
World 0

The kid looks good. Real good.

Requiem · 09-24-2013, 11:39 AM

Why don't you marry him Bowlen?

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08-26-2013, 08:58 PM	#327
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 21,649 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Six CB for sure.

09-24-2013, 09:37 AM	#339
DENVERDUI55 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,351 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I didn't know much about this kid and most of the Orangemane GM's were saying this guy was a huge reach and was a bad pick. I like what I have seen so far out him. He has broke up several passes and he brings the big hits in the secondary.

09-24-2013, 11:21 AM	#346
ZONA Ring of Famer SeaChicken's gonna get KO'd beotch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,069 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I thought he had some good plays out there. Looks faster then I recall as well.

09-24-2013, 11:24 AM	#347
The Joker Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,275 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Looks promising. Raw, but the potential is there. If he can put it together and DRC can start playing like his talent level and get extended then we'll have some big, physical cornerback play for years to come.

09-24-2013, 11:27 AM	#348
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 21,649 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	He is a little rough around the edges, but he has good speed and ball skills. Hopefully he can develop into a good weapon for us. With Carter out, he will see more PT.

09-24-2013, 11:39 AM	#350
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 21,649 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Why don't you marry him Bowlen?