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Old 09-18-2013, 12:23 PM   #51
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Broncos should still run away with this division with all the talent they have.
They will. It's not the division I'm worried about...
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Wasn't Justice a rookie when OSI schooled him?
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:56 PM   #53
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They will. It's not the division I'm worried about...
I'd say we should still run away with the AFC. The only potential challenger I see is Houston.

But Shaub is no Manning.

Our biggest threats to a Superbowl title are in the NFC.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:57 PM   #54
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Justice is terrible but he or the guy replacing Clady can't be worse than Mike Harris, who started LT last year for the Chargers. And they still won 7 games with Norv's sh*t offense.

Broncos should still run away with this division with all the talent they have.

You won't hear me saying this too many times. I have watched both your games and you are by far our only competetion in the west.

Your O is ballin, just no defense as of yet.

Some of the clowns on here like to listen to the talking heads, you know the ones that picked the Chiefs to run away with it last year ans still think the Chiefs have something.

Believe me after watching both Chief games, the Chargers and Broncos will steam roll the Chiefs.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:59 PM   #55
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Our biggest threats to a Superbowl title are in the NFC.
Agree. But, we didn't think the Ravens were much of a threat last year. It was the Pats we were worried about.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:00 PM   #56
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...the Chargers ... will steam roll the Chiefs.
I don't know, maybe. But it won't surprise me if the Chiefs are better than the Chargers.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:03 PM   #57
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Agree. But, we didn't think the Ravens were much of a threat last year. It was the Pats we were worried about.
Going into the playoffs, I don't think too many would've picked them over Tom Bundchen either.

Sometimes a team just catches fire. And I'm not a huge fan of that fact. Almost wish playoffs could be double-elim or something.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:07 PM   #58
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Agree. But, we didn't think the Ravens were much of a threat last year. It was the Pats we were worried about.
The Ravens weren't a threat at the time we played them in the regular season.....but then they got healthy in the last few weeks. Just like Pittsburgh in 2005.

For the first time EVER......I can say the Pats don't worry me. They simply lost too many skill players, thanks to Belly's ego.

Gronk will be much easier to cover when there are no other threats to catch the ball. Plus we have a LB (Trevathan) that seems to have the speed to do it. Lloyd, Welker, Hernandez......I think people clearly underestimated how big it would be losing ALL of those guys. Brady is good, but not that good.

I think we might have the most COMPLETE defense we've had in a long, long time.

Houston's defense poses a threat if they stay healthy. Other than that......no other team poses a HUGE threat to us in the AFC, IMO.
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:52 PM   #59
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Our biggest threats to a Superbowl title are in the NFC.
100% agreed. THB, Seattle and SF scare me.
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There is a lot of football left; who knows what these teams will look like 3 months from now?
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Besides Med, of course.
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:34 PM   #62
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-tackles/

I can't say how accurate it is but supposedly this guy was giving up fewer pressures than Clady through October of last season. Why the hell did nobody sign him? What's the deal?
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:37 PM   #63
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Seattle lost Okung for "a few weeks"
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:40 PM   #64
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I can't say how accurate it is but supposedly this guy was giving up fewer pressures than Clady through October of last season. Why the hell did nobody sign him? What's the deal?
I have no clue, but it makes me feel a little better
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:42 PM   #65
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I can't say how accurate it is but supposedly this guy was giving up fewer pressures than Clady through October of last season. Why the hell did nobody sign him? What's the deal?
he was playing RT, not LT. He'll be a good swingman and nothing more. Should Clark or Bevoe go down, he can fill in.
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Not one of his better moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_-hPnfvdIM
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Not sure what everyone is panicking for. We're still gonna go to the Superbowl.

There will be no perfect storm (refs, cold, etc. ala the Ravens playoff) again this year that will haunt us in the playoffs. Manning is laser focused and stronger.

All our competition, barring Houston and Cincy has gone DOWNHILL since last year.....but they are still no match for us offensively. Shaub/Dalton vs. Manning....no competition. We will scheme out their big DTs on both of those teams and cruise past them offensively.

There's my shining optimism for the day. You're welcome.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:12 PM   #68
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Here's my take on Justice.

He was "All-stud" for the Trojans during their national championship years. He play 4yrs at RT. The thing was....he played RT because Leinart was a lefty. He projects better to LT. But, the Beagles played him at RT. Then he goes to Indy...having played 5yrs at RT...and they continued playing him on the right side.

The kid is very talented. Go look at his combine numbers. He was 1 or 2 in almost every test.

He's certainly worth another Elway hail mary....as added depth.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:17 PM   #69
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Not one of his better moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_-hPnfvdIM
2 plays...one false start and one hold....where he flung Mathews on his arse!

Not all that bad....in my opinion.
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1st play = False start
2nd play = Illegal formation, and a holding call for tackling CM's from behind
3rd play - Completely lets the defender blow by him

Not a very good series.
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One thing to keep in mind about Justice is that Tom Heckert was GM of the eagles when he was drafted. Insert drunk joke here_____!

But seriously, the point being that Heckert will be very familiar with him, and knows what they are getting. The reality is they don't have a lot of options at this point so this is probably thier best one.

As others have said, he isn't here to start, he is here to be a back up. This is not a disaster by any means, but promoting someone like Painter from the PS squad would be.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:00 PM   #72
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He is awful.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:22 PM   #73
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He's serviceable and that's about all you can ask for a replacement OL.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:36 PM   #74
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Tony does handwringing as well as he posts links
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:37 PM   #75
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One thing to keep in mind about Justice is that Tom Heckert was GM of the eagles when he was drafted. Insert drunk joke here_____!

But seriously, the point being that Heckert will be very familiar with him, and knows what they are getting. The reality is they don't have a lot of options at this point so this is probably thier best one.

As others have said, he isn't here to start, he is here to be a back up. This is not a disaster by any means, but promoting someone like Painter from the PS squad would be.


Didn't he draft Weeden and Richardson too?

I think it's time he turned the reigns over to Jim Bob Cooter.

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