The Chiefs suck

How many shutouts did KC get yesterday? I wasn't paying attention

Originally Posted by Rolandftw

The game in KC will be close.

Doubtful, our offense is a full tier or two above their D

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Difference is manning can exploit perfect coverages not just blown coverages. Don't see Poe doing much when the players going up against him are doing their job.

This makes no sense. If a player at any position is doing their job, then the opposing player isn't going to do anything.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by KCStud

This makes no sense. If a player at any position is doing their job, then the opposing player isn't going to do anything.

It's the usual association bias. Broncos win? They're awesome! Chiefs win? Their opponents suck!

Vice versa on Chiefs forums. C'est la vie.

Originally Posted by KCStud

This makes no sense. If a player at any position is doing their job, then the opposing player isn't going to do anything.

How does it not make sense? YOU brought in manning doing something against another who wasn't doing their job(blown assignments). I'm pointing out manning is good enough to still throw lasers even if the defense is NOT blowing assignments. Pretty simple stuff here.

[KCStud]

Also would like to add that if Clady is indeed gone, then that's a devastating loss. I think you all would agree that Clady is one of the 3 guys you absolutely can not lose.

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's the usual association bias. Broncos win? They're awesome! Chiefs win? Their opponents suck!

Vice versa on Chiefs forums. C'est la vie.

You're the first chiefs fan I've come across that give the jags ANY credit as a football team. Had the broncos played jags and Homo chiefs fans would be crying weak schedule for Denver already. Kinda like what they did when the broncos schedule came out.

Originally Posted by KCStud

Also would like to add that if Clady is indeed gone, then that's a devastating loss. I think you all would agree that Clady is one of the 3 guys you absolutely can not lose.

So it was said when Koppen went down. So it was said when champ went down. So it was said when Von went out. They are saying min 3 weeks. That's hardly devastating when cupcake teams are coming up.

Edit sounds like it could be longer for clady

Originally Posted by lolcopter

Doubtful, our offense is a full tier or two above their D

It was close last year, with Brady Quinn as their starting QB. It's almost always close at Arrowhead.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

You're the first chiefs fan I've come across that give the jags ANY credit as a football team. Had the broncos played jags and Homo chiefs fans would be crying weak schedule for Denver already. Kinda like what they did when the broncos schedule came out.

You have a habit of making generalities that aren't there it appears. I didn't even mention the Jags in my post.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

How does it not make sense? YOU brought in manning doing something against another who wasn't doing their job(blown assignments). I'm pointing out manning is good enough to still throw lasers even if the defense is NOT blowing assignments. Pretty simple stuff here.

So basically you're suggesting that Poe isn't good enough to play against good players?

Originally Posted by KCStud

Also would like to add that if Clady is indeed gone, then that's a devastating loss. I think you all would agree that Clady is one of the 3 guys you absolutely can not lose.

Can't lose if Denver expects to win the Super Bowl. Not the type of loss that will prevent Denver from winning the division easily though.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Rolandftw

Can't lose if Denver expects to win the Super Bowl. Not the type of loss that will prevent Denver from winning the division easily though.

That's basically what I meant, though it would be tough for you guys to face Justin Houston and Tamba Hali with a backup LT.

I think Manning would do a ton of 3 step drops in that circumstance.

Originally Posted by KCStud

So basically you're suggesting that Poe isn't good enough to play against good players?

Im suggesting he disappears in games. He's starting to look halfway decent though if he keeps progressing.

Originally Posted by DaFace

You have a habit of making generalities that aren't there it appears. I didn't even mention the Jags in my post.

Who are you referring to when you said "their opponents suck"

Who are the opponents? JAGS and cowboys.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Im suggesting he disappears in games. He's starting to look halfway decent though if he keeps progressing.

You sure aren't paying attention then. Because he also had a tipped pass and was a force in the run game all game long.

Originally Posted by KCStud

You sure aren't paying attention then. Because he also had a tipped pass and was a force in the run game all game long.

What's better to base it on, 2 games or 16 games? Like I said if he's progressing then ill Change my opinion on him. Get back to me after week 12 or so.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by KCStud

So you're telling me that taking advantage of another teams mistakes doesn't count?

Well, guess all those blown coverages by the defense that Manning threw TD's on don't count, since that's your line of thinking.

Of course not. I think it's great that Dontari can make it to the QB if nobody is in front of him.

Originally Posted by KCStud

That's basically what I meant, though it would be tough for you guys to face Justin Houston and Tamba Hali with a backup LT.

I think Manning would do a ton of 3 step drops in that circumstance.

Honestly, other then the INT he got late against the Jaguars, Hali's looked invisible so far (which might explain why Gabbert threw it right to him). While it's only been two games, if it's possible Poe is emerging as one of the better young NT's in the game, it's also possible Hali is declining.

Imagine Houston gets double teamed, and Denver plays it more conservatively as far as protection goes.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Rolandftw

Honestly, other then the INT he got late against the Jaguars, Hali's looked invisible so far (which might explain why Gabbert threw it right to him). While it's only been two games, if it's possible Poe is emerging as one of the better young NT's in the game, it's also possible Hali is declining.

Imagine Houston gets double teamed, and Denver plays it more conservatively as far as protection goes.

I wouldn't say Tamba is declining at this point. He had 4 or 5 pressures on Romo. He was damn close to getting a sack on multiple attempts.

Just because he isn't getting the sack doesn't mean he's not putting heat on the QB.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Tamba actually has more pressure this year than Houston.

The sacks will come.

This team isn't rolling over for the Donks, that much is certain.

If Clady misses both games against KC I'd bet we take one of them.

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Tamba actually has more pressure this year than Houston.

The sacks will come.

This team isn't rolling over for the Donks, that much is certain.

If Clady misses both games against KC I'd bet we take one of them.

That would mean Clark would have to give up at least 5 sacks, several holding penalties, knock the ball out of manning and morenos hands, and have a pass bounce off his head into KCs hands resulting in a TD return.

Alex smith couldn't hit 40 points if his life was on the line.

[orangeatheist]

This is what makes a competitive Chiefs team annoying. THREE of these mutha-fackers are in here already. Anyone got the Lysol?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

That would mean Clark would have to give up at least 5 sacks, several holding penalties, knock the ball out of manning and morenos hands, and have a pass bounce off his head into KCs hands resulting in a TD return.

Alex smith couldn't hit 40 points if his life was on the line.

Our defense is going to hold the Broncos under 30 points. I guarantee you.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by orangeatheist

This is what makes a competitive Chiefs team annoying. THREE of these mutha-fackers are in here already. Anyone got the Lysol?

Homer Bob has risen.

You will be held accountable.