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![]() People can b**** all they want. Fact is Fox and Elway apparently want somebody who has the threat of making huge plays on the field for us. I'm not saying Ball and KM can't do that. I'm just saying that Hillman is the only one with elite speed and can turn a small chunk into a large chunk real fast. This is what preseason games are for. This is where you make the mistakes and learn to fix them. I do however think Hillman can continue to work on that upper body strength. If he want to be a back who sees 25 touches a game, he'll need more power in his arms to hold that ball tight. TD had some guns on him, that dude almost never lost the rock. I know he was a bigger back (217). Hillman could probably gain another 7 pounds in the upper body next year and have some real guns to hold that ball tighter, and he wouldn't lose any speed at all.
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He's shown that he goes down very easily after first contact and that he may have a fumbling problem. career stats : 85 carries 330 yard 3.9 YPC 1 TD and 2 fumbles...combine that with his pre-season showing and he is what he is --MEDIOCRE and TURNOVER PRONE= him being an effective starting running back is a goddamn fairy tale. Go wish upon someone else....like Monte Ball........ |
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![]() Did I miss something, is there something wrong with Montee? Why are we against letting him get the start?
I realize he's a rookie but.....is it the pass protection part? Kid needs to learn, let him learn on the job. He can't be that horrible..... |
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![]() Do people actually think this team wants to run a player 25 carries a game? So the guy who is on the field during the first series is the starter. Big deal. Dude is coming out the game soon after through a rotation.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players...ronnie-hillman |
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![]() Kind of off topic but all this RB drama could of been solved very easy in the past. First up was Shanny after Portis trade(which I loved BTW). OK Denver traded a weapon that teams fear for a HOF CB which was a win in the long term. He really could of made it one sided when the best RB in the draft fell to him and he took the drunk very average LB DJ. The second time was when MCDand his GM crew had a WTF moment and traded a 4th for a garbage RB in Lawrence Maroney. Really? Do you know who else was traded that year for a 4th? Marshawn Lynch.
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![]() All it takes is one screw up to break Peyton Manning, are you willing to risk that so Ball can "learn on the job"
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![]() another person with so much venom towards a player who quarterbacked us to our only playoff win since 2005....he's no manning but he sure as hell has done more for us in a Broncos uniform than Ronnie Hillman....and our alternative to Tebow was Kyle Orton. We have a viable option with Montee Ball and/or resigning McGahee who had far more production than Hillman has had so far despite his fumbling issue...Hillman hasn't shown enough potential to warrant the risk. And most of you can't see that; you are the definition of average. You can thank me and those of us who agreed with my viewpoint later this season...."mark the tape"...
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![]() yes, and the problem with learning on the job is the whole Peyton Manning is our QB thing.
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![]() He is still young and raw. He is more of a complimentary option. Moreno and Ball are more effective anyways. I still like the idea of investing in young runners, but trading up for Hillman was questionable.
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![]() Remember when that one QB sucked complete dong in the preseason? People that had doubts were told that it was just preseason and that those stats shouldnt be held against him.
Those were the days. Muahahaha |
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With that said, i'm going to simplify it for you. If you can't answer this simple question, please don't reply to this post because it will prove you are as clueless as your posts on this thread suggests. The question is: if Shonn Greene was still as good as you are saying, then why did the Jets make no real effort to re-sign him, and let him walk? It's not like they have a stable of quality backs on the roster, and no one would know Greene as well as they. Correct? When you can answer that honestly and intelligently, get back to me. Otherwise, you are the dummy. Dumb***. |
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#246 |
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![]() you know you have a ****ty running back when your thread about him turns into a vehement argument about shonn greene
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#247 |
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![]() Hillman is kind of average at best. He really doesn't do anything well. I haven't seen any open field moves he puts on to get past a linebacker or safety, doesn't look shifty in the open field. He has good burst through a hole, but no power after first contact. You can't say he'll get better, either he has open field moves or he doesn't and he doesn't. He doesn't change direction fast and he's not gonna learn how to suddenly. He gets into the open field and pretty much just runs right into a couple of defenders. He's no Matt Forte and never will be.
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![]() I really dont understand what Hillman has shown to garner so much love. The guy has done nothing but look absolutely pedestrian so far. Same posters hate Lance Ball, who if you switched jerseys I would be hard pressed to tell the difference with based on their running styles...
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![]() What concerns me is that Fox strikes me as the type of guy who could stick with an under performing player just because he chose him in the first 2 or 3 rounds. If Hillman was a hold over or if a new coach had just come in to replace Fox there's no way Hillman is our number 1 at this point
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