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Old 08-21-2013, 02:48 PM   #1
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Default one in three Americans now on food stamps

Last I heard it was one in six. Yikes. Things get worse. MHG

USDA: 101 Million Americans Receive Food Stamps

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Old 08-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #2
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It's going to be hard to get that number going in the other direction too..they can make a pretty good living on the government nipple, better than most entry level jobs. Why work?
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:50 PM   #4
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One in three does not support the official line that we are in a recovery.

Wait til the next meltdown.....

Picture 100 million hungry people in the streets looking for something to eat.

Not a pretty picture.

This is the result of decades of zero leadership.

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Old 08-21-2013, 07:20 PM   #5
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One in three does not support the official line that we are in a recovery.

Wait til the next meltdown.....

Picture 100 million hungry people in the streets looking for something to eat.

Not a pretty picture.

This is the result of decades of zero leadership.

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Old 08-21-2013, 07:22 PM   #6
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Is anyone surpised about this? All the good jobs have left. America has become a service based industry and minimum wage is at $7.50 an hour.

40% of all workers today make less than what people made in 1960.

Raise the minimum wage to $10.50 an hour and you would start to see that change.
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I've seen enough. We have to throw everybody off of food stamps now. Thanks, Fox News. Journalism at its best!
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need to raise the minimum wage

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There should be some disclosure regarding the "food" items that are bought on this program, number one. People in need should get assistance, I don't mind my tax dollars helping out. That said, it shouldn't be helping them buy Mountain Dew and twinkles. Everything bought on his program is tracked..why doesn't the USDA let us know what we're paying for?
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There should be some disclosure regarding the "food" items that are bought on this program, number one. People in need should get assistance, I don't mind my tax dollars helping out. That said, it shouldn't be helping them buy Mountain Dew and twinkles. Everything bought on his program is tracked..why doesn't the USDA let us know what we're paying for?
Doing so will cost more of your taxpayer money, but I agree...there ought to be some restrictions on "luxury items" which are currently considered "food items".

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/retailers/eligible.htm
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Eligible Food Items

Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
Foods for the household to eat, such as:
-- breads and cereals;
-- fruits and vegetables;
-- meats, fish and poultry; and
-- dairy products.


Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.

In some areas, restaurants can be authorized to accept SNAP benefits from qualified homeless, elderly, or disabled people in exchange for low-cost meals.

Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;


Any nonfood items, such as:
-- pet foods;
-- soaps, paper products; and
-- household supplies.


Vitamins and medicines.


Food that will be eaten in the store.


Hot foods.

Additional Information

“Junk Food” & Luxury Items
The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (the Act) defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits: alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food and any food sold for on-premises consumption. Nonfood items such as pet foods, soaps, paper products, medicines and vitamins, household supplies, grooming items, and cosmetics, also are ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits.

Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items


Seafood, steak, and bakery cakes are also food items and are therefore eligible items


Since the current definition of food is a specific part of the Act, any change to this definition would require action by a member of Congress. Several times in the history of SNAP, Congress had considered placing limits on the types of food that could be purchased with program benefits. However, they concluded that designating foods as luxury or non-nutritious would be administratively costly and burdensome. Further detailed information about the challenges of restricting the use of SNAP benefits can be found here:

Report -- Implications of Restricting the use of
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Energy Drinks
When considering the eligibility of energy drinks, and other branded products, the primary determinant is the type of product label chosen by the manufacturer to conform to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) guidelines:

Energy drinks that have a nutrition facts label are eligible foods


Energy drinks that have a supplement facts label are classified by the FDA as supplements, and are therefore not eligible

Live Animals
Live animals may not be purchased with SNAP benefits.


Pumpkins, Holiday Gift Baskets, and Special Occasion Cakes
Pumpkins are edible and eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits. However, inedible gourds and pumpkins that are used solely for ornamental purposes are not eligible items.

Gift baskets that contain both food and non-food items, are not eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits if the value of the non-food items exceeds 50 percent of the purchase price.
To read our most recent notice about Gift Baskets, click here.

Items such as birthday and other special occasion cakes are eligible for purchase with SNAP benefits as long as the value of non-edible decorations does not exceed 50 percent of the purchase price of the cake.
I'd be more willing to allow someone to use foodstamps to buy a live animal (commonly used for consumption, i.e. chickens) than I would energy drinks, but hey.

Good luck getting Congress to agree on what is and isn't "food" though. More than likely any move in this arena would be used as leverage in the current b**** fit against the ACA.

But as they always say, the best method of getting your thoughts conveyed to Congress is writing your Rep.
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The issue shouldn't be how we need to cut back on food stamps. It should be how do we get people off of food stamps.
Raise the minimum wage and people will get off of food stamps. You can work full time at Wal-mart or McDonalds and still be in the poverty range. That is just stupid.

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Beef is getting too damned expensive. We should eat the poor.
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Just add Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce. It makes any meat taste good!
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Just add Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce. It makes any meat taste good!
Their meat is probably stringy, but slow braising ought to work.
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Not sure where these numbers are coming from. This article says 47 million, or 15% of the population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...mps-explained/
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Not sure where these numbers are coming from. This article says 47 million, or 15% of the population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...mps-explained/
Further study of these numbers is obviously needed before we do anything.

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Shoot first, ask questions later. Progressivism in a nutshell. Glad you own it like a man.
You mean shooting first like poo-pooing a discussion on climate change before asking questions like "what is the difference between climate and weather?"

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'People think everyone who is poor gets welfare, and it's just not true'; How the myth of the welfare queen died

By Allison Linn, Senior Writer, NBC News

Here’s one thing both critics and supporters of the modern welfare system agree on: The direct assistance program as we knew it in the 1980s and 1990s is dead and gone.

“It’s a very different program than it was in the past. The comment about welfare queens is much less justified now,” said Ron Haskins, a key adviser of the Republicans’ welfare reform effort who now works at the Brookings Institution.
Two decades after President Bill Clinton promised to “end welfare as we know it” -- and nearly four decades since President Ronald Reagan repeatedly derided the “welfare queen” while on the 1976 presidential campaign trail -- far fewer families are receiving cash and voucher assistance, and a larger share of less educated single moms are working.

People think everyone who is poor gets welfare, and it’s just not true,” said Heather Hahn, a senior research associate at the Urban Institute.
Still, experts are deeply divided on how successful tax and welfare reform efforts of the 1990s have been in improving the lives of less educated single mothers, especially in the wake of the Great Recession and weak recovery.


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About 1.72 million families received direct assistance during an average month in 2012 through Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, according to the latest data from the federal government’s Office of Family Assistance. That’s about half the 3.94 million families who received TANF in 1997, according to an Urban Institute report funded by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

In addition, about 62 percent of never-married moms ages 20 to 49 with a high school degree or less were working in 2011, according to an analysis of Current Population Survey data prepared by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning think tank. That’s up from about 51 percent in 1992, but down from 76 percent in 2000, before two recessions hit low-skill workers hard.
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Welfare has not been the same since the mid-1990s, when the old program, called Aid to Families with Dependent Children, was replaced by TANF. The new program requires that recipients do 20 to 30 hours a week of work-related activities, such as job hunting or community service, among other stipulations.

Most states also only allow adults to collect TANF for a maximum of five years over the course of their lifetime, or less.

“The expectation is that you need to be looking for work,” said LaDonna Pavetti, vice president for family income support policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “And if you don’t, you will either have your benefits reduced or you’ll lose them entirely.”

Many more low-educated single moms did start working soon after the program was introduced, but experts say welfare-to-work cannot take all the credit for that. The late-1990s welfare reform effort also coincided with the expansion of the earned income tax credit, which provides financial assistance to low-wage workers, and a strong labor market.

“There really were three factors: One was welfare reform, one was expansion of the EITC and one was (the) economy,” Pavetti said. “Welfare reform was not the biggest role in that.”

Working, but struggling
These days, Kathryn Edin, a professor of public policy at Harvard University, said the good news is that many single mothers who used to be longer-term welfare recipients are now workers who only need assistance once in a while.

But the bad news for single moms with low education and skills is that in the past decade or so, it’s become increasingly difficult to find a stable, full-time job that pays well. That means some moms may now be working very hard, and still find that their families are at poverty or near-poverty levels.

A person working a full-time, minimum wage job would take home $15,080 a year. That’s below the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2012 poverty threshold for a family of one adult and two children under 18.

About 41 percent female-headed households with children under age 18 were living in poverty in 2011, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That’s up from 33 percent in 2000.

Many also fret about a group of women who were not able to make it into employment at all and who may now be in deep poverty.

“What ended up happening … is a lot of families fell through the cracks,” Edin said. Her recent research has documented a sharp increase in extreme poverty among the families with children that have been most affected by welfare reform.

Most experts say that even in a low-wage job, a single mother is better off financially than on welfare because welfare payments are so low. In July 2011, the maximum monthly TANF payment for a family of three ranged from $170 to $923 a month, depending on the state, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

But many concede that one optimistic hope for welfare reform – that women who entered low-wage work would gradually get better-paying jobs – has not generally materialized.

“The idea that these moms are going to go into the labor force, they’re going to get skills, they’re going to move up, they’re going to make more money … that did not happen very much,” said Haskins, who also advised President George W. Bush on welfare in 2002.

From homeless to employed
These days, the small group of adults who do end up receiving TANF are often at rock bottom.

Nicole Oman is an example. The mother of three children received $454 a month from TANF after she divorced her husband of 14 years and got into another relationship she described as unhealthy.

That was in 2011, and Oman and her children were staying in a homeless shelter where she was required to do around 30 hours of chores, training and therapy for victims of abuse.

After completing the shelter’s program, Oman used a community job search program offered through TANF to land a position with a residential YWCA facility in Issaquah, Wash., outside Seattle.

She now typically earns about $1,150 a month handling some of the YWCA Family Village at Issaquah’s tax compliance requirements. She also receives several hundred dollars a month in food stamp benefits, now known as SNAP.

Oman, 38, also was able to move into a subsidized two-bedroom apartment in the YWCA community, saving her a long bus ride from another temporary housing facility.

After spending years in homeless shelters, Oman revels in having a job and her own apartment.

“The thing that this process makes you is grateful for the craziest little things,” she said

For Oman, it’s having her own kitchen, which means she can cook meals for her family for the first time in years.

For her 10-year-old daughter, it was learning that the bus route near their new apartment would drop them right in front of a major grocery store, instead of having to walk a long way to a less desirable store.

The family’s grocery trips recently got even easier. A few weeks ago, Oman was able to buy a 2001 Ford Taurus. It’s the first time she’s been able to afford a car in nearly three years.

Oman says the job has helped her get back on her feet by giving her more than just a paycheck.

“The gals that I work with, they’ve helped me so much … in rebuilding myself,” she said.

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