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Old 08-06-2013, 08:48 PM   #26
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Yes an HIV positive Homosexual from England that has a hard on for Obamacare on his way to becoming an American citizen......... is this a great country or what?
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Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:11 PM   #27
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Yes an HIV positive Homosexual from England that has a hard on for Obamacare on his way to becoming an American citizen......... is this a great country or what?
What does his sexual orientation or his nationality have to do with anything? And why shouldn't he be allowed to become an American? I'll ask again: do you think you're somehow better than him?
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:40 PM   #28
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Yes it is.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
right unless the golden door is on the border with Mexico........
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:48 PM   #29
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Oh yes a great article written by a fagot from England ........ how about at least find an Article written by an American.
Regardless of his citizenship or sexual orientation, he's right. That's why you're focusing on his citizenship and sexual orientation instead of his points.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:01 PM   #30
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What does his sexual orientation or his nationality have to do with anything? And why shouldn't he be allowed to become an American? I'll ask again: do you think you're somehow better than him?
Yes I do and if that hurts your feelings I really don't give a crap.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:24 AM   #32
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Regardless of his citizenship or sexual orientation, he's right. That's why you're focusing on his citizenship and sexual orientation instead of his points.
False Premise.

I like how a system designed around the healthy young (and poor) subsidizing the sick old (and rich) is framed by Sully as the height of personal accountability. Proof he can brilliantly form any opinion he wants on any set of facts, and his groupies will relentlessly lap it up.
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Yes I do and if that hurts your feelings I really don't give a crap.
How and why are you better? He's far more educated. He makes substantially more money. What is your measuring stick?

As for my feelings, lol. I feel sorry for you if anything.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:13 AM   #34
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How and why are you better? He's far more educated. He makes substantially more money. What is your measuring stick?

As for my feelings, lol. I feel sorry for you if anything.


But...but...Dr. Brownstain says Pony Boy's one of the most successful people he knows!
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:12 AM   #35
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Yes it is.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
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The liberals put that up.
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How and why are you better? He's far more educated. He makes substantially more money. What is your measuring stick?

As for my feelings, lol. I feel sorry for you if anything.

Well I wouldn't bet the farm on that statement but tell me what his yearly income is just for fun?

Sullivan appears regularly on the Colbert Report and Real Time with Bill Maher on television and continues his weekly column for the Sunday Times. He lives with his husband and two hound dogs in New York City and Provincetown, Massachusetts.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/about/

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Well I wouldn't bet the farm on that statement but tell me what his yearly income is just for fun?

Sullivan appears regularly on the Colbert Report and Real Time with Bill Maher on television and continues his weekly column for the Sunday Times. He lives with his husband and two hound dogs in New York City and Provincetown, Massachusetts.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/about/
Haha. Provincetown. That's awesome.
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^ Even in the unlikely event that you do make more money than he does, how are you "better"? Better because you're not gay? Better because you're American? You're avoiding the larger question here. You've exposed yourself as a bigot (at least to those who hadn't already figured it out) and you're trying to dodge it. Please, tell us, how/why are you better?
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^ Even in the unlikely event that you do make more money than he does, how are you "better"? Better because you're not gay? Better because you're American? You're avoiding the larger question here. You've exposed yourself as a bigot (at least to those who hadn't already figured it out) and you're trying to dodge it. Please, tell us, how/why are you better?
What I exposed is the author of your article on Obama care is nothing more than a shill for the Obama administration. He is also nothing more than an HIV positive homosexual that is living here in the U.S. waiting to become a citizen so he can have his pre-existing health condition covered by Obamacare. Maybe he should have uses his educational skills and not had un-protected butt-sex with his Aids’ infected boyfriend.
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Classic......... "We threw England out of here a long time ago .....and for your information "England is a fag country".

God Bless Old Archie Bunker ...........
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The liberals put that up.
Only way they could commit voter fraud.
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False Premise.

I like how a system designed around the healthy young (and poor) subsidizing the sick old (and rich) is framed by Sully as the height of personal accountability. Proof he can brilliantly form any opinion he wants on any set of facts, and his groupies will relentlessly lap it up.
So you prefer a system in which the uninsured get treated in ERs and stick the rest of us with the bill?
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pony is a serious homophobe. You know what they say about them?
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:40 PM   #45
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So you prefer a system in which the uninsured get treated in ERs and stick the rest of us with the bill?
yep, then they have something else to complain about.debt.
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yep, then they have something else to complain about.debt.
Don't forget minorities and poor people. And the lack of morals these days. And the immigrants. And the kids on their lawn (provided they're not mowing it).
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So you prefer a system in which the uninsured get treated in ERs and stick the rest of us with the bill?
My mechanic gets stiffed on bills. My waiter gets stiffed on tabs. My utility company gets stiffed on payments. My mortgage bank gets stiffed on loans. In all cases, ultimately we all pay the cost.

I've never heard anyone advocating that everything should be insured on everything so nobody assumes any risk. Life is a risk. This equality above all else mindset doesn't add up.

Regardless, no coherent argument can be made that Obamacare is really about unpaid hospital visit. Those are only a small part of the problem with health care (costing about $40 billion annually). The feds could simply cut hospitals a check for all those visits and save 75% over what Obamacare is going to cost.
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My mechanic gets stiffed on bills. My waiter gets stiffed on tabs. My utility company gets stiffed on payments. My mortgage bank gets stiffed on loans. In all cases, ultimately we all pay the cost.

I've never heard anyone advocating that everything should be insured on everything so nobody assumes any risk. Life is a risk. This equality above all else mindset doesn't add up.

Regardless, no coherent argument can be made that Obamacare is really about unpaid hospital visit. Those are only a small part of the problem with health care (costing about $40 billion annually). The feds could simply cut hospitals a check for all those visits and save 75% over what Obamacare is going to cost.
Yeah. Six figure hospital bills = a $20 tab at Denny's.
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Yeah. Six figure hospital bills = a $20 tab at Denny's.
Proportions matter little when your stated goal is nationalizing risk in a multi-trillion dollar industry.

Oh, and like I said, the Feds are spending $170 billion a year to 'solve' the problem that by most estimates costs the health care industry $40 billion.

Oh, and that's to reduce the number of uninsured from 45ish million to 30 million. Meaning there will still be tons and tons of uncompensated care.

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Proportions matter little when your stated goal is nationalizing risk in a multi-trillion dollar industry.
Especially when the system supports continued sickness by treating symptoms and ignoring the root causes.
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