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Old 07-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #251
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Speaking of things other than PRISM:

Never, ever trust anything but your own encryption from an open source product:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...cryption-keys/

Think you're safe because you're using an encrypted (https) web page, like your bank? Think again.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:34 PM   #252
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So I can put you down as a supporter of the majority of dems who voted to reign in the NSA.
Absolutely, so long as that's any mark of distinction from the alternative.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:36 PM   #253
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Speaking of things other than PRISM:

Never, ever trust anything but your own encryption from an open source product:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...cryption-keys/

Think you're safe because you're using an encrypted (https) web page, like your bank? Think again.
Good to see they're still willing to carnivore it up on a company by company basis.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:14 AM   #254
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MANNING VERDICT: US Army Pfc Bradley Manning acquitted of aiding the enemy for giving secrets to WikiLeaks. - @AP
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BREAKING: Army Pfc. Bradley Manning convicted of 5 espionage counts in WikiLeaks case. - @AP
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:15 AM   #256
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NEW DETAILS: Pfc. Bradley Manning found guilty of 19 counts, 4 of which were his lesser included pleas - @nathanlfuller
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He'll be in jail for the rest of his life.
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:29 PM   #258
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Bradley Manning deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Manning Verdict Risks Freedom Of The
Press If The People Do Not Act


By Kevin B. Zeese

August 01, 2013 "Information Clearing House
- The verdict in the Bradley Manning trial has already begun to create reverberations as people start to understand its impact, beyond the impact on Manning. While the greatest threat to Manning, Aiding the Enemy, was defeated, another threat, The Espionage Act, was not. The crimes Manning was convicted of mean he is risking 136 years in prison. For a whistleblower who exposed war crimes and unethical behavior in U.S. foreign policy to be facing a lengthy prison term, while the people exposed by government documents are not even investigated, shows how confused the United States has become.

In fact, the crimes Manning exposed were much more serious than the crimes of which he has been convicted. The “Collateral Murder” video which showed U.S. soldiers slaughtering innocent Iraqis, and two Reuters journalists, with joy and glee is one example of many civilian killings that deserve prosecution. The documents which include the Iraq and Afghanistan War Logs and the diplomatic cables show:

· That U.S. troops kill civilians without cause or concern and then cover it up (more examples of hiding civilian killings here , here and here ), including killing reporters ;

· The CIA is fighting an undeclared and unauthorized war in Pakistan with Blackwater mercenaries ;

· The President of Afghanistan is not trustworthy, that Afghanistan is rife with corruption and drug dealing ;

· The Pakistan military and intelligence agencies aid Al Qaeda and the Taliban;

· The U.S. looks the other way when governments it puts in power torture ;

· The diplomatic cables also show that beyond the war fronts, Hillary Clinton has turned State Department Foreign Service officers into a nest of spies who violate laws to spy on diplomats all with marching orders drawn up by the CIA ;

· That Israel, with U.S. knowledge, is preparing for a widespread war in the Middle East, keeping the Gaza economy at the brink of collapse and show widespread corruption at border checkpoints.

These are some examples among many, and the documents have changed the world in many ways , including helping to spur the Arab Spring, which expanded a global revolt against neoliberal economic policies.

These examples show that Bradley Manning was a whistleblower, one of the most important whistleblowers in history. They also show the importance of whistleblowers to a free press and informed public. Shouldn't the American people and the people in countries affected by U.S. policy know these facts?

Manning's convictions for espionage are the first time a whistleblower has been convicted under the Espionage Act. This 1917 law passed during the propaganda effort to support World War I was designed to criminalize spying against the United States. For a whistleblower to be turned into a spy is a great risk to the First Amendment. Julian Assange described the verdict as “calling journalism 'espionage'” Reporters Without Borders sees the verdict as a threat to investigative journalists and their sources. The Center for Constitutional Rights writes in reaction to the verdict: “What is the future of journalism in this country? What is the future of the First Amendment?”

This question is even more frightening when the prosecutor's argument on behalf of the government is understood. The prosecutor's position was that merely publishing information that is critical of the United States would violate the law because it would provide enemies of the United States with a tool to build their movement. If that position is ever accepted by the courts, there will be no First Amendment remaining.

And, during the trial the treatment of the media by the military showed their utter disregard for press freedom. In many respects it seemed to be journalism itself that was facing court martial . Routine coverage was severely restricted by limiting access to court documents and records, frequent lack of any internet connection, and inadequate physical accommodation for reporters. During the closing argument we saw outright intimidation with intense security , including armed camouflaged troops walking up and down the aisle peering over journalists' shoulders. Reportedly this security was ordered by Judge Denise Lind .

It's a sad irony that the significance of this trial for the future of press freedom has largely been lost on the mainstream press, who've been missing in action in this trial - as in many other historic developments over the past decade and more.

The key legal basis for turning whistleblowers that expose crime, fraud and abuse; as well as journalists reporting on such information into traitors treated as spies under the Espionage Act, is the removal of a “bad faith” requirement. In United States v Truong , the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals commented on the notion of bad faith being a requirement for conviction writing that an “honest mistake” was not a violation. However, in the Manning case as well as the prosecution of former CIA agent John Kiriakou, the trial courts found no evidence of bad faith was needed. Academics, journalists, human rights lawyers and others concerned with the First Amendment need to build the case that bad faith is an essential requirement of prosecution under the Espionage Act in order to protect the First Amendment. The Manning appeals may become the vehicle for making this case and changing the law.

Judge Denise Lind now begins the sentencing phase of the Manning court martial. This is expected to last two to four weeks. Actual sentencing is expected at the end of August or beginning of September. Even the sentencing phase of this trial is controversial as the government will call 13 witnesses who will testify in executive session and rely on three “damage assessments” that will also not be publicly available (even Manning will not be able to see one, only his lawyer). During the sentencing phase, issues that were excluded in the guilt phase will be relevant, e.g. Manning's intent, the impact of the release of the documents.

People should take heart from history. Throughout U.S history, bad decisions have led to social movements that created transformative change. In 1857 the Supreme Court ruled in the Dred Scott decision that slaves were property without any human rights. The Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves occurred six years later in 1863. Paxton's Case, in the pre-revolutionary period, upheld the right of the British to search homes, businesses and the persons of American colonists based on meaningless general writs. At the end of that trial, a young court reporter, John Adams, wrote “Then and there the child Liberty was born.”

And, Bradley Manning should take heart from the experience of Daniel Ellsberg. Unlike Manning, Ellsberg released top secret documents, Mannings were low level secrets that hundreds of thousands had access to. Ellsberg was also called a traitor and threatened with over 100 years in prison; if not for Nixon administration prosecutorial abuses he may have been convicted. But today, most people recognize Ellsberg is a hero for exposing the fraudulent foundation and purposes of the Vietnam War. Manning is considered a hero by many today and no doubt will be considered a hero by most Americans in the future.

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Old 08-02-2013, 01:26 PM   #259
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And the American people couldn't care less.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:34 PM   #260
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And the American people couldn't care less.
So very sad to concur what you say is true. That is why a carnage is coming because of the apathy of the junk food sedated masses.

That is why I have been recommending to get off the grid in the remotest place you can manage and store up a year's worth of necessities. Many are doing just that and they are just the right ones that are best equipped to rebuild our world when the dust settles and the horror subsides.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:45 PM   #261
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That is why I have been recommending to get off the grid in the remotest place you can manage and store up a year's worth of necessities. Many are doing just that and they are just the right ones that are best equipped to rebuild our world when the dust settles and the horror subsides.
Of course you would recommend being a poosy.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:32 PM   #262
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And the American people couldn't care less.
Have less sympathy (so far) for Manning than Snowden. Manning leaked pretty indiscriminately. There's no room for outing intelligence sources by name in a whistleblowing capacity.

What both incidents should teach us though is how laughable the concept of information security is in our government. Basically if the Feds track it, it belongs to the world. All the more reason to shut it down.
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Of course you would recommend being a poosy.

Do you look both ways before you cross the street? You DO! You puzzy!!
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Do you look both ways before you cross the street? You DO! You puzzy!!
Lame comparison. I expected better.

Running off and hiding in a burrow, based on a belief in reptilian overlords and their minions in the secretive global conspiratorial elite, isn't the solution.

A straight jacket and some serious meds are advised.

You're a loony, baja.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:10 PM   #265
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Lame comparison. I expected better.

Running off and hiding in a burrow, based on a belief in reptilian overlords and their minions in the secretive global conspiratorial elite, isn't the solution.

A straight jacket and some serious meds are advised.

You're a loony, baja.
You're projecting again.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #266
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You're projecting again.
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That is why I have been recommending to get off the grid in the remotest place you can manage and store up a year's worth of necessities. Many are doing just that and they are just the right ones that are best equipped to rebuild our world when the dust settles and the horror subsides.
That would be you.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:51 AM   #267
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Just keeps getting better and better.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...30805?irpc=932
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Just keeps getting better and better.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...30805?irpc=932
The Ollie North Syndrome: Since I'm an uber-patriot, everything I do is for the good of the country.

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http://www.infowars.com/pat-caddell-...p-of-benghazi/


This just isn't going away much to the shagrim of the O Admin.
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This just isn't going away much to the shagrim of the O Admin.


That's on infowars. That means its already gone away.
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How does a pollster like Pat Caddell get this info if the CIA is conducting lie detector tests on all employees to control leaks? I see accusations here, but no meat on the bone.
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That's on infowars. That means its already gone away.
There you go again shooting the messenger instead of investigating the story.

You Smart!
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That's on infowars. That means its already gone away.
Linked within the article from the source you condem out of hand

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-attacked.html
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This just isn't going away much to the shagrim of the O Admin.
"chagrin"
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