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Old 07-30-2013, 04:31 PM   #26
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Yeah in hindsight, I should have kept Webster and Phillips in place of Dysert and Beal.

Gonna be very interesting to see how it shakes out.

Also, can anyone confirm that a PUP player does not require a roster spot?
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:35 PM   #27
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Confirmed. You are welcome.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:35 PM   #28
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Yeah in hindsight, I should have kept Webster and Phillips in place of Dysert and Beal.

Gonna be very interesting to see how it shakes out.

Also, can anyone confirm that a PUP player does not require a roster spot?
If they go on the regular season PUP they won't count as a roster spot but won't be available to come off until week 6. From there, it used to be roster or IR, but I think that changed with the most recent CBA.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:41 PM   #29
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to me the DE spot depends on Jackson and Beal whether or not we keep an extra DB oe 2 (Duke, Jammer, Adams, Carter all fighting it out for 2 spots)

If Bruton ends up wining the spot it really does make Jammer expendable IMO. I really doubt Carter makes the team

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Old 07-30-2013, 04:45 PM   #30
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I had a little bit of down time today so I figured I'd take a stab at what I think the roster will look like come Week 1.

Depth Chart Prediction

QB: Peyton Manning | Brock Osweiler | – 2
RB:| Ronnie Hillman | Knowshon Moreno | Montee Ball | Jacob Hester | Lance Ball– 5
OT: Ryan Clady | Orlando Franklin | Chris Clark – 3
OG: Louis Vasquez | Zane Beadles | Chris Kuper – 3
C: Manny Ramirez | | CJ Davis – 2
TE: Julius Thomas | Joel Dreesen | Jacob Tamme | Virgil Green – 4
WR: Demaryius Thomas | Eric Decker | Wes Welker | Greg Orton | Trindon Holiday | Tavarres King – 6

Offensive Total: 25

LB: Von Miller | Nate Irving | Wesley Woodyard | Danny Trevathan | Stewart Bradley | Shaun Phillips - 6
CB: Champ Bailey | Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie | Chris Harris | Tony Carter | Keyvon Webster | Omar Bolden – 6
SS/FS: Rahim Moore | Mike Adams | David Bruton | Duke Ihenacho | Quenton Jammer – 5
DE: Derek Wolfe | Robert Ayers | Malik Jackson | Quanterus Smith | – 4
DT: Kevin Vickerson | Terrance Knighton | Sylvester Williams | Mitch Unrien – 4

Defensive Total: 25

K: Matt Prater
P: Britton Colquitt
LS: Aaron Brewer

Special Teams Total: 3
Grand Total: 53

Practice Squad: Lerentee McCray (LB) / CJ Anderson (RB) / Aaron Hester (CB) / Lanston Tanyi (DE) / Romney Fuga (DT) / Manase Foketi (G) / Uona Kaveinga (LB) / Quincy McDuffie (WR) / Vinston Painter (OT)

Beal goes on PS again with Walton going on PUP
Other changes in bold

Based on camp reports thus far:
Dysert is not ready yet
Hillman is the best RB on the team and Montee has not adjusted to the speed of the NFL
Julius Thomas is the best receiver of the TEs

Kayvon Webster wont be cut and has made some good plays at TC
Phillips has been in with the first team nickel at RDE and has provided some nice pressure

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Old 07-30-2013, 04:47 PM   #31
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Phillips will make the team before Q. Smith, just saying. Q. Smith is going on IR.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #32
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Phillips will make the team before Q. Smith, just saying. Q. Smith is going on IR.
if they both play well, there's room for both.
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:05 PM   #33
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Phillips will make the team before Q. Smith, just saying. Q. Smith is going on IR.
Smith has been fully participating in TC, they aren't going to stash him on the IR. He will be part of the DE rotation like Jackson was last season.
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Smith has been fully participating in TC, they aren't going to stash him on the IR. He will be part of the DE rotation like Jackson was last season.
see post #7. It's way too early to say this and I'll put the vet up against a rook who appears to be good but is a complete unknown right now. Unless Phillips gets hurt, he makes the team.
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:27 PM   #35
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if they both play well, there's room for both.
then who gets cut?
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then who gets cut?
Green or Mitch Unrien.
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Green or Mitch Unrien.
so 5 DEs and only 3 DTs? maybe, if Wolfe or Jackson move inside. TE will definitely be interesting to watch...
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so 5 DEs and only 3 DTs? maybe, if Wolfe or Jackson move inside. TE will definitely be interesting to watch...
We only had three last year with Bannan, Vick, and Unrien. Warren was hurt early. Sealver Siliga was active for 2 games. Wolfe, Jackson, and Ayers all can play inside as well.
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QB: Peyton Manning, Brock Osweiler
RB: Ronnie Hillman, Knowshon Moreno, Montee Ball, Jacob Hester [FB]
WR: Demaryius Thomas, Greg Orton
WR: Eric Decker
WR: Wes Welker, Tavarres King
TE: Julius Thomas, Joel Dreessen, Jacob Tamme, Virgil Green
LT: Ryan Clady, Chris Clark
LG: Zane Beadles
C: Manny Ramirez, Philip Blake
RG: Lou Vasquez
RT: Orlando Franklin, Vinston Painter

DE: Derek Wolfe, Malik Jackson
DT: Kevin Vickerson, Mitch Unrein
DT: Terrance Knighton, Sylvester Williams
DE: Robert Ayers, Quanterus Smith
WLB: Wesley Woodyard, Danny Trevathan
MLB: Nate Irving, Stewart Bradley, Stevie Johnson
SLB: Shaun Phillips, Lerentee McCray
CB: Champ Bailey, Tony Carter, Kayvon Webster
FS: Rahim Moore, Duke Ihenacho
SS: Mike Adams, David Bruton, Quinton Carter
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Chris Harris, Omar Bolden

K: Matt Prater
P: Britton Colquitt
KR/PR: Trindon Holiday
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QB: Peyton Manning, Brock Osweiler
RB: Ronnie Hillman, Knowshon Moreno, Montee Ball, Jacob Hester [FB]
WR: Demaryius Thomas, Greg Orton
WR: Eric Decker
WR: Wes Welker, Tavarres King
TE: Julius Thomas, Joel Dreessen, Jacob Tamme, Virgil Green
LT: Ryan Clady, Chris Clark
LG: Zane Beadles
C: Manny Ramirez, Philip Blake
RG: Lou Vasquez
RT: Orlando Franklin, Vinston Painter

DE: Derek Wolfe, Malik Jackson
DT: Kevin Vickerson, Mitch Unrein
DT: Terrance Knighton, Sylvester Williams
DE: Robert Ayers, Quanterus Smith
WLB: Wesley Woodyard, Danny Trevathan
MLB: Nate Irving, Stewart Bradley, Stevie Johnson
SLB: Shaun Phillips, Lerentee McCray
CB: Champ Bailey, Tony Carter, Kayvon Webster
FS: Rahim Moore, Duke Ihenacho
SS: Mike Adams, David Bruton, Quinton Carter
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Chris Harris, Omar Bolden

K: Matt Prater
P: Britton Colquitt
KR/PR: Trindon Holiday
DS: Aaron Brewer

PuP: JD Walton, Chris Kuper
Reserved/Suspended: Von Miller


McCray goes to the practice squad when Miller comes back? Also, I don't think Blake makes the team but you know more than I do...
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:09 PM   #41
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I don't see the team keeping Beal over Philips.
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can you put one or two players on IR? I thought you could put at least one on IR and then bring him back before the end of the season.
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can you put one or two players on IR? I thought you could put at least one on IR and then bring him back before the end of the season.
You can put as many players as you want to pay and that will clear waivers on IR. You can only bring one back but he has to be on the final post preseason roster and he can't play until week 8.
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You can put as many players as you want to pay and that will clear waivers on IR. You can only bring one back but he has to be on the final post preseason roster and he can't play until week 8.
I thought IR protect the team from another team swooping in and taking that player away.
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Montrose has my exact thoughts on the 53. The only one I could mybe see differently is Philip Blake, it sounds like he's been getting toasted but I also haven't been there every day like he has
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I thought IR protect the team from another team swooping in and taking that player away.
Yeah sorry. You are right, I misspoke. You can put any players you want on IR with a major injury but you can only make one exempt. He has to be on the final preseason roster and can't play until week 8. You also have to mark him as exempt immediately.
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For what it's worth, I spoke to Miami (OH) quarterback coach (Mike Bath) on Sunday and talked a little bit about Dysert and the Broncos. Supposedly Philly almost took him in the fourth round over Barkley. Also, the Broncos quarterback coach, Gregg Knapp called Bath to talk about Dysert and he told me that Denver wants to keep Dysert as a project. Also, Denver is worried that Oz may party too much and may not work out in the long run.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #48
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I got a feeling that Mike Adams will be cut. I think either Q. Carter or Bruton will take the SS spot.
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What's the new-ish rule about the #3 QB? Something like he doesn't count against the 53 man roster? I think it came into play within the past year or two?

So then we could keep Dysert and he wouldn't take up a spot? Someone fix my understanding of the rule and explain it better!
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The NFL just added a new active roster spot on game day. It's now 46 players instead of 45. It use to be 45 with an emergency quarterback if he was inactive.
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