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Old 11-29-2012, 07:18 PM   #1
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Are you suggesting we discard the political strategies of failed governments, and adopt the political strategies of successful governments?

I applaud your pragmatic philosophy! Too many people stick to ideals (i.e. taxes are bad, helping the poor is good) without ever questioning them. Let's look at some data,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ates_by_income

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Rank     State     Politics     2009     2008     2007     2004-2006
1     Maryland     Blue     $69,272     $70,545     $68,080     $62,372
2     New Jersey     Blue     $68,342     $70,378     $67,035     $64,169
3     Connecticut     Blue     $67,034     $68,595     $65,967     $59,972
4     Alaska     Red     $66,953     $68,460     $64,333     $57,639
5     Hawaii     Blue     $64,098     $67,214     $63,746     $60,681
6     Massachusetts     Blue     $64,081     $65,401     $62,365     $56,236
7     New Hampshire     Blue     $60,567     $63,731     $62,369     $60,489
8     Virginia     Blue    $59,330     $61,233     $59,562     $55,108
    District of Columbia     Blue     $59,290     $57,936     $54,317     $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9     California     Blue     $58,931     $61,021     $59,948     $53,770
10     Delaware     Blue     $56,860     $57,989     $54,610     $52,214
11     Washington     Blue     $56,548     $58,078     $55,591     $53,439
12     Minnesota     Blue     $55,616     $57,288     $55,082     $57,363
13     Colorado     Blue     $55,430     $56,993     $55,212     $54,039
14     Utah     Red     $55,117     $56,633     $55,109     $55,179
15     New York     Blue     $54,659     $56,033     $53,514     $48,201
16     Rhode Island     Blue     $54,119     $55,701     $53,568     $52,003
17     Illinois     Blue     $53,966     $56,235     $54,124     $49,280
18     Nevada     Purple     $53,341     $56,361     $55,062     $50,819
19     Wyoming     Red     $52,664     $53,207     $51,731     $47,227
20     Vermont     Blue     $51,618     $52,104     $49,907     $51,622
    United States         $50,221     $52,029     $50,740     $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21     Wisconsin     Blue     $49,993     $52,094     $50,578     $48,874
22     Pennsylvania     Blue     $49,520     $50,713     $48,576     $47,791
23     Arizona     Red     $48,745     $50,958     $49,889     $46,729
24     Oregon     Blue     $48,457     $50,169     $48,730     $45,485
25     Texas     Red     $48,259     $50,043     $47,548     $43,425
26     Iowa     Blue     $48,044     $48,980     $47,292     $47,489
27     North Dakota     Red     $47,827     $45,685     $43,753     $43,753
28     Kansas     Red     $47,817     $50,177     $47,451     $44,264
29     Georgia     Red     $47,590     $50,861     $49,136     $46,841
30     Nebraska     Red     $47,357     $49,693     $47,085     $48,126
31     Maine     Blue     $45,734     $46,581     $45,888     $45,040
32     Indiana     Red     $45,424     $47,966     $47,448     $44,806
33     Ohio     Purple     $45,395     $47,988     $46,597     $45,837
34     Michigan     Blue     $45,255     $48,591     $47,950     $47,064
35     Missouri     Red     $45,229     $46,867     $45,114     $44,651
36     South Dakota     Red     $45,043     $46,032     $43,424     $44,624
37     Idaho     Red     $44,926     $47,576     $46,253     $46,395
38     Florida     Purple     $44,736     $47,778     $47,804     $44,448
39     North Carolina     Red     $43,674     $46,549     $44,670     $42,061
40     New Mexico     Blue     $43,028     $43,508     $41,452     $40,827
41     Louisiana     Red     $42,492     $43,733     $40,926     $37,943
42     South Carolina     Red     $42,442     $44,625     $43,329     $40,822
43     Montana     Red     $42,322     $43,654     $43,531     $38,629
44     Tennessee     Red     $41,725     $43,614     $42,367     $40,676
45     Oklahoma     Red     $41,664     $42,822     $41,567     $40,001
46     Alabama     Red     $40,489     $42,666     $40,554     $38,473
47     Kentucky     Red     $40,072     $41,538     $40,267     $38,466
48     Arkansas     Red     $37,823     $38,815     $38,134     $37,420
49     West Virginia     Red     $37,435     $37,989     $37,060     $37,227
50     Mississippi     Red     $36,646     $37,790     $36,338     $35,261

I put the 2011 numbers through excel, here are my findings:

Blue State Median Income: $55,020
US Median Income: $50,502
Red State Median Income: $45,325



Note that "median income" is much more forgiving for Red States than per-capita income, which you can view here. In red states it appears wealth is not only more rare, it's also concentrated in fewer hands.

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my thoughts exactly ...I haven been in Detroit regularly since the mid 80's ...never been the Paris of the west ..the op is a blooming idiot
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archite...is_of_the_West

"In the late nineteenth century, Detroit was called the Paris of the West for its architecture and open public spaces......"

next time try something called a "search engine"...I'd recommend the one they call G-O-O-G-L-E.
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my thoughts exactly ...I haven been in Detroit regularly since the mid 80's ...never been the Paris of the west ..the op is a blooming idiot
Of course you didn't see Detroit as being the "Paris of the West"......by the 1980's the destructive effects of leftist policies had already eroded the city into the slum that it remains today....
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Are you suggesting we discard the political strategies of failed governments, and adopt the political strategies of successful governments?

I applaud your pragmatic philosophy! Too many people stick to ideals (i.e. taxes are bad, helping the poor is good) without ever questioning them. Let's look at some data,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ates_by_income

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Rank     State     Politics     2009     2008     2007     2004-2006
1     Maryland     Blue     $69,272     $70,545     $68,080     $62,372
2     New Jersey     Blue     $68,342     $70,378     $67,035     $64,169
3     Connecticut     Blue     $67,034     $68,595     $65,967     $59,972
4     Alaska     Red     $66,953     $68,460     $64,333     $57,639
5     Hawaii     Blue     $64,098     $67,214     $63,746     $60,681
6     Massachusetts     Blue     $64,081     $65,401     $62,365     $56,236
7     New Hampshire     Blue     $60,567     $63,731     $62,369     $60,489
8     Virginia     Blue    $59,330     $61,233     $59,562     $55,108
    District of Columbia     Blue     $59,290     $57,936     $54,317     $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9     California     Blue     $58,931     $61,021     $59,948     $53,770
10     Delaware     Blue     $56,860     $57,989     $54,610     $52,214
11     Washington     Blue     $56,548     $58,078     $55,591     $53,439
12     Minnesota     Blue     $55,616     $57,288     $55,082     $57,363
13     Colorado     Blue     $55,430     $56,993     $55,212     $54,039
14     Utah     Red     $55,117     $56,633     $55,109     $55,179
15     New York     Blue     $54,659     $56,033     $53,514     $48,201
16     Rhode Island     Blue     $54,119     $55,701     $53,568     $52,003
17     Illinois     Blue     $53,966     $56,235     $54,124     $49,280
18     Nevada     Purple     $53,341     $56,361     $55,062     $50,819
19     Wyoming     Red     $52,664     $53,207     $51,731     $47,227
20     Vermont     Blue     $51,618     $52,104     $49,907     $51,622
    United States         $50,221     $52,029     $50,740     $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21     Wisconsin     Blue     $49,993     $52,094     $50,578     $48,874
22     Pennsylvania     Blue     $49,520     $50,713     $48,576     $47,791
23     Arizona     Red     $48,745     $50,958     $49,889     $46,729
24     Oregon     Blue     $48,457     $50,169     $48,730     $45,485
25     Texas     Red     $48,259     $50,043     $47,548     $43,425
26     Iowa     Blue     $48,044     $48,980     $47,292     $47,489
27     North Dakota     Red     $47,827     $45,685     $43,753     $43,753
28     Kansas     Red     $47,817     $50,177     $47,451     $44,264
29     Georgia     Red     $47,590     $50,861     $49,136     $46,841
30     Nebraska     Red     $47,357     $49,693     $47,085     $48,126
31     Maine     Blue     $45,734     $46,581     $45,888     $45,040
32     Indiana     Red     $45,424     $47,966     $47,448     $44,806
33     Ohio     Purple     $45,395     $47,988     $46,597     $45,837
34     Michigan     Blue     $45,255     $48,591     $47,950     $47,064
35     Missouri     Red     $45,229     $46,867     $45,114     $44,651
36     South Dakota     Red     $45,043     $46,032     $43,424     $44,624
37     Idaho     Red     $44,926     $47,576     $46,253     $46,395
38     Florida     Purple     $44,736     $47,778     $47,804     $44,448
39     North Carolina     Red     $43,674     $46,549     $44,670     $42,061
40     New Mexico     Blue     $43,028     $43,508     $41,452     $40,827
41     Louisiana     Red     $42,492     $43,733     $40,926     $37,943
42     South Carolina     Red     $42,442     $44,625     $43,329     $40,822
43     Montana     Red     $42,322     $43,654     $43,531     $38,629
44     Tennessee     Red     $41,725     $43,614     $42,367     $40,676
45     Oklahoma     Red     $41,664     $42,822     $41,567     $40,001
46     Alabama     Red     $40,489     $42,666     $40,554     $38,473
47     Kentucky     Red     $40,072     $41,538     $40,267     $38,466
48     Arkansas     Red     $37,823     $38,815     $38,134     $37,420
49     West Virginia     Red     $37,435     $37,989     $37,060     $37,227
50     Mississippi     Red     $36,646     $37,790     $36,338     $35,261

I put the 2011 numbers through excel, here are my findings:

Blue State Median Income: $55,020
US Median Income: $50,502
Red State Median Income: $45,325



Note that "median income" is much more forgiving for Red States than per-capita income, which you can view here. In red states it appears wealth is not only more rare, it's also concentrated in fewer hands.
And this entire post is done under the fallacy THAT THOSE WHO HAPPEN TO RESIDE IN A STATE THAT IS MAJORITY BLUE, ALL TEND TO FAVOR DEMOCRATIC POLICIES. Those who have earned their own wealth tend to be fiscally conservative.....states such as CA and NY are full of "takers" hence HIGH TAXES, HIGH COSTS of LIVING and a steady influx of immigrants (illegal and legal) that tend to vote for handouts..it's NOT the wealthy in those BLUE STATES voting for higher taxes and more government programs........AND WHEN YOU TOO GREAT OF A PERCENTAGE OF TAKERS YOU GETS THE RESULTS THAT WE SEE IN TOWNS LIKE DETROIT.

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"In the late nineteenth century, Detroit was called the Paris of the West for its architecture and open public spaces......"

next time try something called a "search engine"...I'd recommend the one they call G-O-O-G-L-E.
Yeah, late 19th century early 1900's, but it's still funny.

So what was your point? A lot of US cities were in better financial shape during that period.

Are you trying to lay the blame for the decline of every US city at the feet of Democrats? Because that's also funny!
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Of course you didn't see Detroit as being the "Paris of the West"......by the 1980's the destructive effects of leftist policies had already eroded the city into the slum that it remains today....
lol ...nice try .. Maybe for Canadians ...new york will always be the main go to city in this country followed by San Fransico
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Are you suggesting we discard the political strategies of failed governments, and adopt the political strategies of successful governments?

I applaud your pragmatic philosophy! Too many people stick to ideals (i.e. taxes are bad, helping the poor is good) without ever questioning them. Let's look at some data,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ates_by_income

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Rank     State     Politics     2009     2008     2007     2004-2006
1     Maryland     Blue     $69,272     $70,545     $68,080     $62,372
2     New Jersey     Blue     $68,342     $70,378     $67,035     $64,169
3     Connecticut     Blue     $67,034     $68,595     $65,967     $59,972
4     Alaska     Red     $66,953     $68,460     $64,333     $57,639
5     Hawaii     Blue     $64,098     $67,214     $63,746     $60,681
6     Massachusetts     Blue     $64,081     $65,401     $62,365     $56,236
7     New Hampshire     Blue     $60,567     $63,731     $62,369     $60,489
8     Virginia     Blue    $59,330     $61,233     $59,562     $55,108
    District of Columbia     Blue     $59,290     $57,936     $54,317     $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9     California     Blue     $58,931     $61,021     $59,948     $53,770
10     Delaware     Blue     $56,860     $57,989     $54,610     $52,214
11     Washington     Blue     $56,548     $58,078     $55,591     $53,439
12     Minnesota     Blue     $55,616     $57,288     $55,082     $57,363
13     Colorado     Blue     $55,430     $56,993     $55,212     $54,039
14     Utah     Red     $55,117     $56,633     $55,109     $55,179
15     New York     Blue     $54,659     $56,033     $53,514     $48,201
16     Rhode Island     Blue     $54,119     $55,701     $53,568     $52,003
17     Illinois     Blue     $53,966     $56,235     $54,124     $49,280
18     Nevada     Purple     $53,341     $56,361     $55,062     $50,819
19     Wyoming     Red     $52,664     $53,207     $51,731     $47,227
20     Vermont     Blue     $51,618     $52,104     $49,907     $51,622
    United States         $50,221     $52,029     $50,740     $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21     Wisconsin     Blue     $49,993     $52,094     $50,578     $48,874
22     Pennsylvania     Blue     $49,520     $50,713     $48,576     $47,791
23     Arizona     Red     $48,745     $50,958     $49,889     $46,729
24     Oregon     Blue     $48,457     $50,169     $48,730     $45,485
25     Texas     Red     $48,259     $50,043     $47,548     $43,425
26     Iowa     Blue     $48,044     $48,980     $47,292     $47,489
27     North Dakota     Red     $47,827     $45,685     $43,753     $43,753
28     Kansas     Red     $47,817     $50,177     $47,451     $44,264
29     Georgia     Red     $47,590     $50,861     $49,136     $46,841
30     Nebraska     Red     $47,357     $49,693     $47,085     $48,126
31     Maine     Blue     $45,734     $46,581     $45,888     $45,040
32     Indiana     Red     $45,424     $47,966     $47,448     $44,806
33     Ohio     Purple     $45,395     $47,988     $46,597     $45,837
34     Michigan     Blue     $45,255     $48,591     $47,950     $47,064
35     Missouri     Red     $45,229     $46,867     $45,114     $44,651
36     South Dakota     Red     $45,043     $46,032     $43,424     $44,624
37     Idaho     Red     $44,926     $47,576     $46,253     $46,395
38     Florida     Purple     $44,736     $47,778     $47,804     $44,448
39     North Carolina     Red     $43,674     $46,549     $44,670     $42,061
40     New Mexico     Blue     $43,028     $43,508     $41,452     $40,827
41     Louisiana     Red     $42,492     $43,733     $40,926     $37,943
42     South Carolina     Red     $42,442     $44,625     $43,329     $40,822
43     Montana     Red     $42,322     $43,654     $43,531     $38,629
44     Tennessee     Red     $41,725     $43,614     $42,367     $40,676
45     Oklahoma     Red     $41,664     $42,822     $41,567     $40,001
46     Alabama     Red     $40,489     $42,666     $40,554     $38,473
47     Kentucky     Red     $40,072     $41,538     $40,267     $38,466
48     Arkansas     Red     $37,823     $38,815     $38,134     $37,420
49     West Virginia     Red     $37,435     $37,989     $37,060     $37,227
50     Mississippi     Red     $36,646     $37,790     $36,338     $35,261

I put the 2011 numbers through excel, here are my findings:

Blue State Median Income: $55,020
US Median Income: $50,502
Red State Median Income: $45,325



Note that "median income" is much more forgiving for Red States than per-capita income, which you can view here. In red states it appears wealth is not only more rare, it's also concentrated in fewer hands.
It's not all red & blue. Every state is a shade of purple. Federal handouts to the more red states make poverty worse, and makes the voters more red. It's getting really divisive in the south because the dependents to workers ratio is much higher. We see the problems growing worse every day. Welfare dependency is contagious in poor communities and it becomes addictive.
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Are you suggesting we discard the political strategies of failed governments, and adopt the political strategies of successful governments?

I applaud your pragmatic philosophy! Too many people stick to ideals (i.e. taxes are bad, helping the poor is good) without ever questioning them. Let's look at some data,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ates_by_income

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Rank     State     Politics     2009     2008     2007     2004-2006
1     Maryland     Blue     $69,272     $70,545     $68,080     $62,372
2     New Jersey     Blue     $68,342     $70,378     $67,035     $64,169
3     Connecticut     Blue     $67,034     $68,595     $65,967     $59,972
4     Alaska     Red     $66,953     $68,460     $64,333     $57,639
5     Hawaii     Blue     $64,098     $67,214     $63,746     $60,681
6     Massachusetts     Blue     $64,081     $65,401     $62,365     $56,236
7     New Hampshire     Blue     $60,567     $63,731     $62,369     $60,489
8     Virginia     Blue    $59,330     $61,233     $59,562     $55,108
    District of Columbia     Blue     $59,290     $57,936     $54,317     $47,221 (2005)[3]PDF
9     California     Blue     $58,931     $61,021     $59,948     $53,770
10     Delaware     Blue     $56,860     $57,989     $54,610     $52,214
11     Washington     Blue     $56,548     $58,078     $55,591     $53,439
12     Minnesota     Blue     $55,616     $57,288     $55,082     $57,363
13     Colorado     Blue     $55,430     $56,993     $55,212     $54,039
14     Utah     Red     $55,117     $56,633     $55,109     $55,179
15     New York     Blue     $54,659     $56,033     $53,514     $48,201
16     Rhode Island     Blue     $54,119     $55,701     $53,568     $52,003
17     Illinois     Blue     $53,966     $56,235     $54,124     $49,280
18     Nevada     Purple     $53,341     $56,361     $55,062     $50,819
19     Wyoming     Red     $52,664     $53,207     $51,731     $47,227
20     Vermont     Blue     $51,618     $52,104     $49,907     $51,622
    United States         $50,221     $52,029     $50,740     $46,242 (2005) [4]PDF
21     Wisconsin     Blue     $49,993     $52,094     $50,578     $48,874
22     Pennsylvania     Blue     $49,520     $50,713     $48,576     $47,791
23     Arizona     Red     $48,745     $50,958     $49,889     $46,729
24     Oregon     Blue     $48,457     $50,169     $48,730     $45,485
25     Texas     Red     $48,259     $50,043     $47,548     $43,425
26     Iowa     Blue     $48,044     $48,980     $47,292     $47,489
27     North Dakota     Red     $47,827     $45,685     $43,753     $43,753
28     Kansas     Red     $47,817     $50,177     $47,451     $44,264
29     Georgia     Red     $47,590     $50,861     $49,136     $46,841
30     Nebraska     Red     $47,357     $49,693     $47,085     $48,126
31     Maine     Blue     $45,734     $46,581     $45,888     $45,040
32     Indiana     Red     $45,424     $47,966     $47,448     $44,806
33     Ohio     Purple     $45,395     $47,988     $46,597     $45,837
34     Michigan     Blue     $45,255     $48,591     $47,950     $47,064
35     Missouri     Red     $45,229     $46,867     $45,114     $44,651
36     South Dakota     Red     $45,043     $46,032     $43,424     $44,624
37     Idaho     Red     $44,926     $47,576     $46,253     $46,395
38     Florida     Purple     $44,736     $47,778     $47,804     $44,448
39     North Carolina     Red     $43,674     $46,549     $44,670     $42,061
40     New Mexico     Blue     $43,028     $43,508     $41,452     $40,827
41     Louisiana     Red     $42,492     $43,733     $40,926     $37,943
42     South Carolina     Red     $42,442     $44,625     $43,329     $40,822
43     Montana     Red     $42,322     $43,654     $43,531     $38,629
44     Tennessee     Red     $41,725     $43,614     $42,367     $40,676
45     Oklahoma     Red     $41,664     $42,822     $41,567     $40,001
46     Alabama     Red     $40,489     $42,666     $40,554     $38,473
47     Kentucky     Red     $40,072     $41,538     $40,267     $38,466
48     Arkansas     Red     $37,823     $38,815     $38,134     $37,420
49     West Virginia     Red     $37,435     $37,989     $37,060     $37,227
50     Mississippi     Red     $36,646     $37,790     $36,338     $35,261

I put the 2011 numbers through excel, here are my findings:

Blue State Median Income: $55,020
US Median Income: $50,502
Red State Median Income: $45,325



Note that "median income" is much more forgiving for Red States than per-capita income, which you can view here. In red states it appears wealth is not only more rare, it's also concentrated in fewer hands.
lets just skip to Detroit city ummk its a mes compared to of course other cities like it, in case you was going to go pull up stats for some 2 bit town thats barley a city
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dunno what to do with Detroit perhaps we can sell the city to china or korea or japan they could use the space to make a new giant size golf course
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Detroit tries to file bankruptcy...meanwhile, the suburbs are trying to erect walls to keep the "diversity" out of their 'burbs.............http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/07/...ut-detroiters/

"Prosperous suburbs surrounding Detroit — and even the struggling enclaves within — are working to distance themselves from a city in financial ruin.
In Hamtramck, one City Council candidate is taking that idea to the extreme.
Richard Fabiszak has proposed that Hamtramck build a 12 or 14-foot wall around the city, keeping out Detroiters, and requiring state-issued identification to get in."
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The finger-pointing for Detroit’s decades of decline usually starts with the 1967 race riots. High pensions for unionized workers get its share of the blame, as does the global economic trends that upended the auto industry. Meanwhile, racial politics and white flight to the suburbs rightly earn a place as a driver of the city’s blight.

But so much focus on what happened can leave behind the “who.” Yes, a confluence of economic and cultural forces unquestionably led to Detroit‘s decline and its filing, on Thursday, for the largest municipal bankruptcy in the history of the United States. But Detroit also failed as a city because of the leaders who failed Detroit.

Some names are obvious. There is former mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, who could face 20 years in prison after being convicted for crimes such as extortion, bribery and racketeering. Obviously, decades of decline preceded the “hip-hop mayor,” but the corruption of his tenure certainly didn’t help. While Kilpatrick was in office, Detroit’s credit ratings returned to junk status.

There is Coleman Young, the combative five-term mayor who led the city for what Daniel Okrent has called, in Time, a “corrosive two-decade rule of a black politician who cared more about retribution than about resurrection.” Though Young’s tenure is caught up in racial divisiveness that some believe make him misunderstood, it’s clear he stayed in office for far too long, did little to try and mend fences broken down along racial lines, and led the city when its debt rating first reached junk status



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Detroit tries to file bankruptcy...meanwhile, the suburbs are trying to erect walls to keep the "diversity" out of their 'burbs.............http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/07/...ut-detroiters/

"Prosperous suburbs surrounding Detroit — and even the struggling enclaves within — are working to distance themselves from a city in financial ruin.
In Hamtramck, one City Council candidate is taking that idea to the extreme.
Richard Fabiszak has proposed that Hamtramck build a 12 or 14-foot wall around the city, keeping out Detroiters, and requiring state-issued identification to get in."
And here we go again with outsiders making claims they know nothing about. This has nothing to do with being against "diversity", as Hamtramck is about as diverse as it gets. HUGE middle eastern population there and a broad, diverse ethnic base that is embraced in that city.

Learn what you're talking about first. Maybe visit the city a time or two.

Then talk.

Otherwise you look like the idiot you are.
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I doubt that Detroit is much different than many other cities in the NE that were built around an industry and then, when that industry failed (or left) the people began to move out and the city began to collapse. Having grown up on the West Coast I was amazed to live in Buffalo and drive down along Lake Erie, to Lackawanna, and see mile after mile of the deserted Bethlehem Steel mills. Detroit had a corrupt government but they also had a disappearing tax base.
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I doubt that Detroit is much different than many other cities in the NE that were built around an industry and then, when that industry failed (or left) the people began to move out and the city began to collapse. Having grown up on the West Coast I was amazed to live in Buffalo and drive down along Lake Erie, to Lackawanna, and see mile after mile of the deserted Bethlehem Steel mills. Detroit had a corrupt government but they also had a disappearing tax base.
oh, you lived in B-Lo at one point.

Yeah, manufactuing rusting into toxic heaps on some of the best waterfront in the Northeast... its sad because Buffalo used to be a very wealthy city many moons ago, but times change, the lakes became less important and steel left... it happens, times change, Detroit is no different.
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oh, you lived in B-Lo at one point.

Yeah, manufactuing rusting into toxic heaps on some of the best waterfront in the Northeast... its sad because Buffalo used to be a very wealthy city many moons ago, but times change, the lakes became less important and steel left... it happens, times change, Detroit is no different.
Coming from the West Coast, where real estate is very expensive, it was amazing to me to see these vast expanses of material just left to rust. On the WC, a business fails and is replaced by a new business in days.

My dad grew up working in the steel mills of Pittsburgh. He joined the Marines in order to find an easier life.

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No one wants to admit what the collapse of an almost entirely black city means. Detroit is nearly 90 percent black, though in virtually none of the articles (or opinion pieces) on the city's historic bankruptcy is this highly pertinent fact mentioned.

Save this piece by Paul Kersey at VDare.com [“Detroit Is A Microcosm Of Black America”–Black Studies Professor’s 2010 Op-Ed Says What, Vdare.com, July 22, 2013]:

Both President Obama and Attorney General Eric “My People” Holder have called for a dialogue on race relations among Americans in the wake of acquittal of George Zimmerman. But the bankruptcy of Detroit is a more fitting starting point for this dialogue.

Only yesterday, Detroit was a city where an intensely color-conscious people bragged about exercising more “black political power” than anywhere else in America. Today, the result is undeniable disaster.
Detroit still has a population of more than 700,000 people, where Front Page Magazine jokes that 91 percent of murders go unsolved each year. Hilariously, the writer asks: "Honk if you like Democrats living next to you," never capable of admitting that it's black people who are nearly 90 percent of the population of Detroit and who as individuals create the collective conditions of misery, murder, and mayhem in the city.
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To ensure that "every American is able to choose to live in a community they feel proud of," HUD has published a new fair-housing regulation intended to give people access to better neighborhoods than the ones they currently live in.

The goal is to help communities understand "fair housing barriers" and "establish clear goals" for "improving integrated living patterns and overcoming historic patterns of segregation."

“This proposed rule represents a 21st century approach to fair housing, a step forward to ensuring that every American is able to choose to live in a community they feel proud of – where they have a fair shot at reaching their full potential in life,” said HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan.

“For the first time ever," Donovan added, "HUD will provide data for every neighborhood in the country, detailing the access African American, Latino, Asian, and other communities have to local assets, including schools, jobs, transportation, and other important neighborhood resources that can play a role in helping people move into the middle class."

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According to HUD, long-term solutions include "helping people gain access to different neighborhoods and channeling investments into under-served areas." The mapping tool may guide development and zoning decisions, for example.

In a July 16 speech to the NAACP, Donovan said the American Dream still isn't within equal reach of all communities. He lamented the lack of diversity in America's boardrooms, schools, and the nation's "strongest neighborhoods."

"We have got to shape a future where ladders of opportunity are available for all Americans," Donovan said. "For African Americans, this is critically important. Historically, for this community, the rungs on these ladders have been too far apart -– making it harder to reach the middle class."

Donovan said HUD's new neighborhood mapping tool, which uses Census data, will "expand access to high opportunity neighborhoods and draw attention to investment possibilities in under-served communities."

"Make no mistake, this is a big deal," Donovan said. "With the HUD budget alone, we are talking about billions of dollars. And as you know, decades ago, these funds were used to support discrimination. Now, they will be used to expand opportunity and bring communities closer to the American Dream."

Under the Fair Housing Act, HUD requires grantees, such as cities, that receive federal housing funds to "affirmatively further fair housing."

Under the proposed rule, the neighborhood data provided by HUD will be used to evaluate patterns of integration and segregation, racial and ethnic concentrations of poverty, and access to "valuable community assets." HUD wants to know if existing laws and policies -- such as zoning, financing, infrastructure planning and transportation -- create, perpetuate or alleviate segregation.

The proposed rule explicitly incorporates fair-housing decision-making into existing planning processes and "other decision-making that influences how communities and regions grow and develop
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