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Old 07-09-2013, 05:38 PM   #26
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LMAO - Shanny the best QB in the league. We know what you meant but it was still funny as hell to read that.
Damn, I didn't even notice that. He was a damn good QB in his youth though....lol
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #27
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:47 PM   #28
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What do you mean WTF? You have the ball with over 2 minutes left in the game and all you need is a 1st down to run out the clock and you run it 3x in a row and then punt.

Why the **** would you run it all 3 times when you're top 5 in passing?

Fox went full-on Marty in that game and you know it.
weak as usual but pretty much par for you.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:29 PM   #29
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weak as usual but pretty much par for you.
Actually he's pretty much spot on.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:33 AM   #30
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weak as usual but pretty much par for you.
Yeah I'm clearly the only one who recognized this..

1. The Broncos got the ball back with 36 seconds in the first half and three timeouts. They took a knee and went to halftime.


2. Leading by seven points, the Broncos had a third-and-7 with 2 minutes remaining. A first down there wins the game. They ran the ball to set up a punt. It's a defensible move, but you have the chance to put the game in Peyton Manning's hands. One play and it's over. If the play isn't there, trust Manning to take a sack or check it down to keep the clock moving. That's a situation Manning lives for. There's no one better.

3. After the Broncos gave up a 70-yard touchdown to Jacoby Jones after a terrible breakdown in the secondary, the Broncos had 31 seconds left to try to set up a game-winning field goal. Manning took a knee again.

None of this comes a surprise to folks that have watched Fox coach a long time. But it's a shame to not even try to win with Manning on his side. The Broncos didn't go out swinging. They went out hoping not to lose.


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, Oakland, the ONLY team to have 0. Even the Rams were able to scrap up 1.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:59 AM   #32
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Actually he's pretty much spot on.
Yeah that's pretty much exactly what happened.
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Yeah I'm clearly the only one who recognized this..

1. The Broncos got the ball back with 36 seconds in the first half and three timeouts. They took a knee and went to halftime.


2. Leading by seven points, the Broncos had a third-and-7 with 2 minutes remaining. A first down there wins the game. They ran the ball to set up a punt. It's a defensible move, but you have the chance to put the game in Peyton Manning's hands. One play and it's over. If the play isn't there, trust Manning to take a sack or check it down to keep the clock moving. That's a situation Manning lives for. There's no one better.

3. After the Broncos gave up a 70-yard touchdown to Jacoby Jones after a terrible breakdown in the secondary, the Broncos had 31 seconds left to try to set up a game-winning field goal. Manning took a knee again.

None of this comes a surprise to folks that have watched Fox coach a long time. But it's a shame to not even try to win with Manning on his side. The Broncos didn't go out swinging. They went out hoping not to lose.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...t-to-lose-game
you're such a trog. The odds of the Ravens converting for a TD were almost insurmountable but **** happens. The Broncos had the game won and due to utter incompetence by the defensive secondary the ratbird threw up a friggen rainbow prayer and they scored a TD.

I can hardly wait for the Broncos to crush the chiefs. It's gonna be worse than this:

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Talking about playoff losses you have to mention Andy Reid. He has wrote a book on blowing conference championship games. KC pud has to admit old Fox was closer to winning a Superbowl than the fat man in KC.
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you're such a trog. The odds of the Ravens converting for a TD were almost insurmountable but **** happens. The Broncos had the game won and due to utter incompetence by the defensive secondary the ratbird threw up a friggen rainbow prayer and they scored a TD.

I can hardly wait for the Broncos to crush the chiefs. It's gonna be worse than this:

There would have been a 0% chance of the Ravens offense ever getting the ball back to tie the game if you threw the ball and got the first down.
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Talking about playoff losses you have to mention Andy Reid. He has wrote a book on blowing conference championship games. KC pud has to admit old Fox was closer to winning a Superbowl than the fat man in KC.
About the same really. Both lost close games in the SB.
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There would have been a 0% chance of the Ravens offense ever getting the ball back to tie the game if you threw the ball and got the first down.
ya think? Fantastic insight kcpud.
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About the same really. Both lost close games in the SB.
Eagles/Patriots superbowl wasn't close. Sure the score shows a 3 point game but the Eagles scored a garbage TD. Panthers led in the 4th and were tied until the last play of the game. Whatever makes you feel happy though just know Reid isn't as good as you guys think.
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Yeah I'm clearly the only one who recognized this..

1. The Broncos got the ball back with 36 seconds in the first half and three timeouts. They took a knee and went to halftime.


2. Leading by seven points, the Broncos had a third-and-7 with 2 minutes remaining. A first down there wins the game. They ran the ball to set up a punt. It's a defensible move, but you have the chance to put the game in Peyton Manning's hands. One play and it's over. If the play isn't there, trust Manning to take a sack or check it down to keep the clock moving. That's a situation Manning lives for. There's no one better.

3. After the Broncos gave up a 70-yard touchdown to Jacoby Jones after a terrible breakdown in the secondary, the Broncos had 31 seconds left to try to set up a game-winning field goal. Manning took a knee again.

None of this comes a surprise to folks that have watched Fox coach a long time. But it's a shame to not even try to win with Manning on his side. The Broncos didn't go out swinging. They went out hoping not to lose.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...t-to-lose-game
Some of this is true, some is monday morning QBing.

Once again, and probably not for the final time, when Flacco took the snap before the long TD to Jones, the Broncos win chance was 97.2. I'll take those chances any day.
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Eagles/Patriots superbowl wasn't close. Sure the score shows a 3 point game but the Eagles scored a garbage TD. Panthers led in the 4th and were tied until the last play of the game. Whatever makes you feel happy though just know Reid isn't as good as you guys think.
Bottomline is both lost the game.

Reid has only had 3 losing seasons as a HC. He deserves the benefit of the doubt here until proven otherwise. His bad season last year was based on more than just him. Kinda hurts your offense when you lose your LT, QB and best weapon to injury.

But then again, he doesn't have Peyton Manning leading his team to make him look good like Fox.
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Bottomline is both lost the game.

Reid has only had 3 losing seasons as a HC. He deserves the benefit of the doubt here until proven otherwise. His bad season last year was based on more than just him. Kinda hurts your offense when you lose your LT, QB and best weapon to injury.

But then again, he doesn't have Tim Tebow leading his team to make him look good like Fox.
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Bottomline is both lost the game.

Reid has only had 3 losing seasons as a HC. He deserves the benefit of the doubt here until proven otherwise. His bad season last year was based on more than just him. Kinda hurts your offense when you lose your LT, QB and best weapon to injury.

But then again, he doesn't have Peyton Manning leading his team to make him look good like Fox.
Back to what I said intially you say Fox is so bad and Reid is so great but the facts show Fox was much closer to winning a SB (With Jake F*&King Delhomme) than the fat guy in KC.
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Reid is a fine coach, why would anyone argue that. Fox is a fine coach as well. Fox is too conservative and Reid abandon's the run too early, which is funny because with Smith at QB they will need to pound the ball early and often.

The best coach inthe division might turnout to be McCoy. Of course we will not know about that for two years or so.
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Back to what I said intially you say Fox is so bad and Reid is so great but the facts show Fox was much closer to winning a SB (With Jake F*&King Delhomme) than the fat guy in KC.
I never said Fox was a bad coach, I just said he's the closest thing to Marty that we'll see in this day and age (also think Jeff Fisher is the same way).

I like Reid's aggressive philosophy more than Fox's conservative philosophy.

It's funny that people think Reid isn't that good. Just curious why you think that? Because of the last 2 years?
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Yeah Reid turned a run first, poor passing QB into something worth a crap and made the playoffs with him too.
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Yeah Reid turned a run first, poor passing QB into something worth a crap and made the playoffs with him too.
yes, Reid will save your pathetic team. No worries, it's all ok now.
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yes, Reid will save your pathetic team. No worries, it's all ok now.
That pathetic team has 8 players in the pro bowl. Just sayin...
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That pathetic team has 8 players in the pro bowl. Just sayin...
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I never said Fox was a bad coach, I just said he's the closest thing to Marty that we'll see in this day and age (also think Jeff Fisher is the same way).

I like Reid's aggressive philosophy more than Fox's conservative philosophy.

It's funny that people think Reid isn't that good. Just curious why you think that? Because of the last 2 years?
The problem with Reid is that:

1) He has terrible game management. Wasted time outs all the time, terrible decisions to challenge plays that he's not going to win (I know this falls on his assistants up in the booth but there comes a point in time where he either has to stop listening to them or fire them.)

2) He doesn't emphasize the run game and it always bites him in the ass when they struggle in the red zone. Ever watch his teams try to punch it in from one or two yards out? It's pretty pathetic.

3) For whatever reason he hitched his wagon to Vick and that was his downfall in Philly. He drafted Kolb but he turned out to be a bust. The only good thing that came out of that was that he fleeced the Cardinals in that trade but that left him without a quarterback to groom. Vick should have been a band aid for a real quarterback to step in. Now he's seemingly making the same mistake with Alex Smith. History repeats itself and that's why you see so many people who are ultra critical of Reid's short tenure in KC already.
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The problem with Reid is that:

1) He has terrible game management. Wasted time outs all the time, terrible decisions to challenge plays that he's not going to win (I know this falls on his assistants up in the booth but there comes a point in time where he either has to stop listening to them or fire them.)

2) He doesn't emphasize the run game and it always bites him in the ass when they struggle in the red zone. Ever watch his teams try to punch it in from one or two yards out? It's pretty pathetic.

3) For whatever reason he hitched his wagon to Vick and that was his downfall in Philly. He drafted Kolb but he turned out to be a bust. The only good thing that came out of that was that he fleeced the Cardinals in that trade but that left him without a quarterback to groom. Vick should have been a band aid for a real quarterback to step in. Now he's seemingly making the same mistake with Alex Smith. History repeats itself and that's why you see so many people who are ultra critical of Reid's short tenure in KC already.
I agree, he had Lashaun McCoy in Philly and he continually just ignored him. Instead having Vick throw the ball 30-40 times a game. If I remember correctly in one of Philly's close loses Vick threw the ball 57 times.

If he brings this philosophy to KC they won't win 5 games this year.
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