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Old 06-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #2251
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I'm not saying the NFL needs more white fans, lol. I'm saying Hillis was popular because he was a white running back, and that brought more fans to the Browns. Perhaps it was a bad analogy.

But I have black friends from the Navy that would ridicule hockey as a sport. I know at least one of them is following the draft very closely now. Because of Jones.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:09 AM   #2252
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:28 AM   #2253
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Lol....gotta love Smurf injecting race into the NHL thread.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:58 AM   #2254
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I'm not saying the NFL needs more white fans, lol. I'm saying Hillis was popular because he was a white running back, and that brought more fans to the Browns. Perhaps it was a bad analogy.

But I have black friends from the Navy that would ridicule hockey as a sport. I know at least one of them is following the draft very closely now. Because of Jones.
I think Buff, Iggy, GF, Simmons, Doig, and many other black players would disagree.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:19 PM   #2255
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I think Buff, Iggy, GF, Simmons, Doig, and many other black players would disagree.
what he was saying in a bad analogy is that having a ethnic player as a top pick and potentially the #1 pick would drive fans of that shared background to root for the sport and tune in more.

which happens with any minority race. they tend to pile on and support that player heavily and it piques interest in the sport more.
because you can market it to that fan base.

and it's not just race, it's religion, lifestyle, culture & etc.
the more comfortable a fan is with a player's perceived image the more they're likely to follow him and the sport.

with that said, i don't flying **** if he's black, blue, yellow, Armenian, Scottish, Catholic, Aesthetic, Bi-Sexual, Gay or whatever.
is he the better player and can he help my team win?
the problem comes in when the issue or cause is greater than the value of the actual player's production(IE Tebow)
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:24 PM   #2256
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from today's Boston Globe:

Bruins center Patrice Bergeron remains at a local hospital for observation because of a punctured lung. He was admitted following the Bruins’ 3-2 loss to Chicago in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final Monday night.


As it was, Bergeron entered Game 6 with a broken rib and torn cartilage. He then sustained a separated shoulder during the first period. Bergeron had visited a Chicago hospital after Game 5 Saturday night because of the torn cartilage.

Unreal......what a warrior.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:58 PM   #2257
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Bruins center Patrice Bergeron remains at a local hospital for observation because of a punctured lung. He was admitted following the Bruins’ 3-2 loss to Chicago in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final Monday night.


As it was, Bergeron entered Game 6 with a broken rib and torn cartilage. He then sustained a separated shoulder during the first period. Bergeron had visited a Chicago hospital after Game 5 Saturday night because of the torn cartilage.

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You loved every second!
You forced me. . . :^(

I am going to the authorities. No more glam band jam band in the basement Dusseldorf Dogma Panic At the Disco.
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what he was saying in a bad analogy is that having a ethnic player as a top pick and potentially the #1 pick would drive fans of that shared background to root for the sport and tune in more.

which happens with any minority race. they tend to pile on and support that player heavily and it piques interest in the sport more.
because you can market it to that fan base.

and it's not just race, it's religion, lifestyle, culture & etc.
the more comfortable a fan is with a player's perceived image the more they're likely to follow him and the sport.

with that said, i don't flying **** if he's black, blue, yellow, Armenian, Scottish, Catholic, Aesthetic, Bi-Sexual, Gay or whatever.
is he the better player and can he help my team win?
the problem comes in when the issue or cause is greater than the value of the actual player's production(IE Tebow)

I know....Iggy was a high 1st too....his argument falls flat.
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Lol....gotta love Smurf injecting race into the NHL thread.
It's Jay-Z that is trying to inject race in hockey.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:41 PM   #2264
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what he was saying in a bad analogy is that having a ethnic player as a top pick and potentially the #1 pick would drive fans of that shared background to root for the sport and tune in more.

which happens with any minority race. they tend to pile on and support that player heavily and it piques interest in the sport more.
because you can market it to that fan base.

and it's not just race, it's religion, lifestyle, culture & etc.
the more comfortable a fan is with a player's perceived image the more they're likely to follow him and the sport.

with that said, i don't flying **** if he's black, blue, yellow, Armenian, Scottish, Catholic, Aesthetic, Bi-Sexual, Gay or whatever.
is he the better player and can he help my team win?
the problem comes in when the issue or cause is greater than the value of the actual player's production(IE Tebow)
... And the Avs can be one of those teams to attract a nationwide fan base.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:55 PM   #2265
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... And the Avs can be one of those teams to attract a nationwide fan base.
how did that work for Evander Kane and his team?
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:59 PM   #2266
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I know....Iggy was a high 1st too....his argument falls flat.
it's Calgary. they made the cup final and most people barely remember that.
heck, most people mentioned the top goalies in the NHL and passed over Kiprusoff in most cases.

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how did that work for Evander Kane and his team?
Atlanta was not a hockey town. more people know who Kane is now since moving to Winnipeg than when he was in Atlanta.
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Seth Jones is from the United States...

He is incredibly well-spoken for an athlete, regardless of race... (He's probably smarter, too, than 90 percent of athletes)...

His dad was a pro basketball player, so there's the intersport connection....

Him coming back to his hometown is a huge marketing selling point, and gives him an opportunity to connect with his fanbase...

He will be a franchise player, and this situation is just like Lebron in Cleveland, except I'd say he'd have a much better chance at sticking around, rather than jumping ship the way Lebron did (and why I think pro basketball is a joke).
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You better expand your fanbase by picking the best players. If that's MacKinnon, nevermind what Jones' race is. I really hope the Avs take the best player and I really think the best potential impact player is MacKinnon. And the past data supports taking forwards over defensemen. Duncan Keith, one of the best defensemen in the modern NHL was a 2nd round pick. Granted, anyone that resembles Keith in any way will likely go in the first based on Keith's impact as a smart, mobile puckmover.
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It'll be Nathan as long as we stay at 1. If we move down it'll be barkov and then jones depending on how far down we go. The fo still hasn't 100% made up their minds but it'll be Mack
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You better expand your fanbase by picking the best players. If that's MacKinnon, nevermind what Jones' race is. I really hope the Avs take the best player and I really think the best potential impact player is MacKinnon. And the past data supports taking forwards over defensemen. Duncan Keith, one of the best defensemen in the modern NHL was a 2nd round pick. Granted, anyone that resembles Keith in any way will likely go in the first based on Keith's impact as a smart, mobile puckmover.
Keith was also considered small when he was drafted. he needed time in college to develop and grow. **** even now he's 200 lbs and that's considered to be kind small for a top level D man.

if you're big and you can skate as a D man they're more likely to draft you higher unless you just have the total package even though you're smallish.

like a Jordan Subban. if he was 6-0 175 instead of 5-9 165 he'd be a first round pick. talent wise he's that good. but he's too small for a D man.
even Nic Petan as a forward he's 5-9 and about 180, he could sneak into the first but most likely is a 2nd round. if he was bigger he'd be a top 15 pick.
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Chris Kunitz has agreed to a 3 year extension...AAV 3.85.

Salary is reasonable...term is a bit too long, IMO.
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Lecavalier is being bought out in Tampa.
I'd be shocked if he isn't in Montreal a minute after the waiver period expires.
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I'd be shocked if he isn't in Montreal a minute after the waiver period expires.
Montreal definitely seems like the obvious choice, they do have the cap space barely to sign him if he goes for around 5 mill.
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Congrats Chicago fans.......just got back from the game. Be gentle. I'm going to need some time.
Three days long enough? This series aside, I absolutely love the Bruins, without a doubt my fave team in the East. They will always hold a special place in my heart for crushing Vancouver's dream in 2011.

What a great series, and what a great win. I now know what it feels like to be on the other side of the Flacco pass and certainly helps ease that pain.

Also, I realize I'm three days late but I literally got over my hangover from Monday this morning. I haven't been on a computer, or really moved from my couch in the past two days.
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