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Old 06-26-2013, 09:16 AM   #51
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IMO you are not considering all the potential outcomes nor are you learning from history with your opinion. A Militia is not a professional army. A militia is made up by non-professional citizens. Aka the civilian population. If called up it's BYOG.
I understand your opinion, i just disagree with it.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #52
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And this is why we'll fundamentally disagree on just about everything. Actually, pending on how you want to define "equal," we aren't all of equal intelligence, strength, etc. But as far as basic rights are concerned, which I include something as stupid as marriage, we should all be able to marry anyone we want.

There is no argument that this harms society in any way.
And Gay Americans have those basic rights. The Bill of Rights applies to them. Marriage is NOT a right. However equal protection under tax laws is.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #53
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You are free to pray to any space god you want. You're not free to take your beliefs and oppress other people with them.

If you believe gays cant marry, then youre a ****ing bigot. Plain and simple.

And an arrogant a-hole too.

And conservatives, like all humans, are constantly asking for it both ways. So get off your stupid high horse and go **** yourself.
, name calling, the liberal agenda.
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This ruling strikes down section 3 of DOMA. The states can still decide to recognize or not recognize gay marriage, but the Federal Government must recognize these marriages. This is the proper ruling from a states rights perspective. Kennedy seems to think gay americans should be a protected class, which is complete nonsense IMO.
No. They ruled that american citizens can not be denied rights granted to other citizens.
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Conservatives need to get back to good principles. Believing that people, not government, make America go. There's a lot of Black and Hispanic groups that have very conservative values but the left has done such a good job of painting Republicans as racists that they turn to the only thing left.

Many Black communities hate the welfare state - the way it encourages Husbandless - even "partner-less" welfare mothers who have more children to get bigger checks. Hispanic communities favor family values and hard work. They really aren't looking for a handout. My gay friend is fiscally very conservative and only votes Democrat because of he and his partner's personal issues.

If Republicans would get onto the fiscal responsibility angle, worked on keeping government off our phone calls and fighting for family values - that's families with parents, preferably two or more, raising children in good homes - they could get a lot of votes and retake power.

I think a majority of Americans don't want a large police state that tries to do everything.
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I understand your opinion, i just disagree with it.
Right on.

If the **** every hits the fan to the point that the citizens need to protect themselves from whatever, stand behind me bro.
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No. They ruled that american citizens can not be denied rights granted to other citizens.
Yeah...anyway...I read the decision. DOMA section 2 was not struck down.

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its semantics, but the word marriage should be given soley to the man/woman version of being married.

but benefits of being "married" should be equal in this country
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Relgious nuts, GTFO. ---->
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, what about Prop 8? CA citizens voted to recognize traditional marriage and the federal court in San Fan said 'no' and this was a homosexual judge who struck down Prop 8. Now the SC is saying "that's ok."
That's because you can not have a majority deciding what right a minority can have. It's unconstitutional.
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That's because you can not have a majority deciding what right a minority can have. It's unconstitutional.
Marriage is not a right under the constitution.
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People are not bigots for having different opinions. Unless it is the westboro baptist church. Those ****ers are just crazy and should be thrown into a pit.

The reality is, the definition of marriage is changing. In the west, that now includes same sex marriages. It is not even the same country to country. You realize for most of human history marriages were arranged? Your spouse was selected for you. In parts of the world today (India, China, SE Asia, the ME and North Africa) that still happens.

Supreme Court did the correct thing. They have affirmed that under federal law, a marriage is a marriage, regardless of the genders of the two involved in it. It is not an affront or assault on traditional marriage (as we see it). Just an expansion of what marriage is under federal law.

Surprisingly, life will go on.

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My arrogance, what about yours? All I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy of the liberal agenda.

When a pastor of a church gets arrested because he refuses to marry a homosexual couple, then this whole idea of "gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone" will go down the tube. The homosexual agenda will force the religious community to recognize gay marriage and when the religious community refuses to do so (even though this hypothetical gay couple can go to the local court house or any other place and have a marriage ceremony) it will be persecuted.
So is Fox News the only channel your TV can tune into or is it just the only one you watch?
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:30 AM   #65
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I think a majority of Americans don't want a large police state that tries to do everything.
I don't believe that anymore.....
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So is Fox News the only channel your TV can tune into or is it just the only one you watch?
I don't even have a TV...
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Great. Gay marriage is legalized and I get a bride price. I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted.


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Marriage is not a right under the constitution.
Marriage isn't but everyone getting treated equal is.
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I thought we weren't supposed to cater to the 1%?



J/K - I don't care one way or the other about the issue (my only complaint is that people should work to over turn laws instead of running to the courts to do so, because of those who claim it's a majority position and how they're on the right side of history, if you are then you don't need the courts).
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Thanks sirchris for enforcing the right for people to have an opinion.
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Hell. I'll give him to you for one cow.
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Hell. I'll give him to you for one cow.
Take the 3 chickens.
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Take the 3 chickens.
Layers or meat birds?
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Well now that that's over, we'll just wait until the polygamists start their clamoring for equal rights too......not to mention the NAMBLA and beastiality clowns who will soon want equal protection under the law.

.....if a homosexual has the right to **** his buddy in the ass, or munch on her BFF's carpet then how can we as a society argue against a guy or woman who wants to **** a cow or horse? Oh, but wait...that stuff is not natural human behavior you say?

Well, neither is homosexuality, and look where we are today.
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Thanks sirchris for enforcing the right for people to have an opinion.

Sarcasm?


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