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Old 06-18-2013, 06:02 PM   #51
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It's our turn, we were healthy last year so the injury bug will bite hard this year.
We had our share of injuries last year. Our starting center and our #1 and #2 running backs for instance.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:04 PM   #52
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I personally think people predicting it makes it less likely to happen.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:05 PM   #53
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It is hard to predict what the Chiefs will do with completely new coaching. Alex Smith is an upgrade from Cassel, but he's not head and shoulders better. It will take a couple years for the Chiefs to pick up a few pieces and fully implement Reid's designs. I would say the best guess is that this year is a growing pains year and they're likely to get 6-8 wins, based on schedule.
I think Cassell is the better overall QB between him and Smith, Both have had turnover issues, though Cassell has had them recently whereas Smith had his early in his career.

Athletically it is a push

Cassell has the better arm, Smith the better accuracy but Smith had better WR's in San Fran, he is not going to have the same thing in kFc. Cassell was let down a lot by poor route running and WR's who could not catch. Cassell's fumbling issues are all on him though.

There was no way Cassell should have been benched for Quinn. kFc might have won 4 games and got 5 more guys in the Pro Bowl if they stuck with Cassell.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #54
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I personally think people predicting it makes it less likely to happen.

No No No That's the way it used to work but then people started doing it because it worked and that changed the mojo now it does come true. Did you not get the memo?
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:07 PM   #55
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I remember the Chiefs being a very sexy pick last preseason. A lot of talking heads picked them for reasons I cannot fathom. That said, I think Denver will have the division wrapped by week nine.
Well that's because there were alot of unknowns in Denver. Nobody knew what kinda of PM we would end up with.

You won't see anybody picking KC this year.

EDIT - whoa. Strike that. Apparently the morons at bleacher report are that stupid. They're picking KC as the favorite at 70%, lol

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Old 06-18-2013, 06:09 PM   #56
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I think Cassell is the better overall QB between him and Smith, Both have had turnover issues, though Cassell has had them recently whereas Smith had his early in his career.

Athletically it is a push

Cassell has the better arm, Smith the better accuracy but Smith had better WR's in San Fran, he is not going to have the same thing in kFc. Cassell was let down a lot by poor route running and WR's who could not catch. Cassell's fumbling issues are all on him though.

There was no way Cassell should have been benched for Quinn. kFc might have won 4 games and got 5 more guys in the Pro Bowl if they stuck with Cassell.
Cassell might be the better QB using your variables but the last two years he has been a friggin turnover machine. One thing Smith does pretty well is take care of the ball.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:16 PM   #57
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One thing Smith does pretty well is take care of the ball.
We shall see if that continues now that he is with a team that is going to need a lot more from its QB to win games.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #58
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We shall see if that continues now that he is with a team that is going to need a lot more from its QB to win games.
They have a talented defense an improving offensive line and maybe the best RB in the NFL. For most of their games I think they can play conservative and be in the game. Against Denver if they want to win they are going to have to open it up though.
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Cassell might be the better QB using your variables but the last two years he has been a friggin turnover machine. One thing Smith does pretty well is take care of the ball.
He's called captain check-down for a reason...
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #60
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I think Cassell is the better overall QB between him and Smith, Both have had turnover issues, though Cassell has had them recently whereas Smith had his early in his career.

Athletically it is a push

Cassell has the better arm, Smith the better accuracy but Smith had better WR's in San Fran, he is not going to have the same thing in kFc. Cassell was let down a lot by poor route running and WR's who could not catch. Cassell's fumbling issues are all on him though.

There was no way Cassell should have been benched for Quinn. kFc might have won 4 games and got 5 more guys in the Pro Bowl if they stuck with Cassell.


How about you take a look at Cassel and Smith the last 2 years and say that with a straight face.

Man you are one stupid uneducated football fan. Cassel threw the ball 10 feet over Bowe's head all the time. He was terrible at placing the ball anywhere on the field.
He even got McCluster hurt with his terrible passes.

Alex Smith is an average QB, but my God Cassel isn't even a top 32 QB in the league anymore. Hell I would take a few backups over him.

It's also hilarious that you rag on Bowe. Bowe has been a good WR every year with terrible QB's his entire career. I'd take him over Crabtree any day.

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Old 06-18-2013, 06:31 PM   #61
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They have a talented defense an improving offensive line and maybe the best RB in the NFL. For most of their games I think they can play conservative and be in the game. Against Denver if they want to win they are going to have to open it up though.
The Chiefs defense gave up almost ten more points per game last year than the 49ers.

Just saying...
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The Chiefs defense gave up almost ten more points per game last year than the 49ers.

Just saying...
I'm sure the Chiefs turning the ball over and doing nothing on offense had nothing to do with that.

We were 12th in points given up in 2011.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:33 PM   #63
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I don't think there will be any question that the Chiefs will be better than the Raiders and Chargers.

the Chargers have major holes in a ton of places. They can't protect the QB or get pressure on the opposing teams QB.
You're assuming this is going to be the same team as last year.

If you haven't noticed, there's been a lot of change in San Diego.
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If you have to argue who is the better QB for your team Matt Cassel or Alex Smith your team blows ass.
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How about you take a look at Cassel and Smith the last 2 years and say that with a straight face.

Man you are one stupid uneducated football fan. Cassel threw the ball 10 feet over Bowe's head all the time. He was terrible at placing the ball anywhere on the field.
He even got McCluster hurt with his terrible passes.

Alex Smith is an average QB, but my God Cassel isn't even a top 32 QB in the league anymore. Hell I would take a few backups over him.

It's also hilarious that you rag on Bowe. Bowe has been a good WR every year with terrible QB's his entire career. I'd take him over Crabtree any day.
IDK, I watched just about every kFc game and I saw a lot of gator arm action, bad routes, guys quitting on routes, WR's being destroyed on the LOS and no TE to throw to underneath.

Smith had above avg WR's and TE's who ran great routes and were not afraid to get hit.

Not saying I would want Cassell on my team but he was not the only one responsible for losing, it got much worse when Quinn went in.
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Look at this article. Guy who wrote it is a clown. Says KC will win and his reason.................the Broncos are 1 neck injury from sucking, his exact words. Really? We're going that route again? He picked KC last year as well. What I find stupid is that his reason KC wins is based on "what if's". Well, what if Charles goes down? What if Alex Smith goes down? For that matter, what if anybody's #1 QB goes down. Don't you think that's going to hurt any team, sure it is.

I predict the Broncos will win the Superbowl. Not because we're a great team, but because what if every other team in the NFL lost several key players to injury this year. Yeah, that sounds right. I should write an article like that and send it to FootballNation and it probably could get published. Just like this POS article. Haha.

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IDK, I watched just about every kFc game and I saw a lot of gator arm action, bad routes, guys quitting on routes, WR's being destroyed on the LOS and no TE to throw to underneath.

Smith had above avg WR's and TE's who ran great routes and were not afraid to get hit.

Not saying I would want Cassell on my team but he was not the only one responsible for losing, it got much worse when Quinn went in.
Yeah no. Charles and Bowe are great weapons. Cassel just sucks ass and couldn't utilize them like he did before.

Bowe ran the same solid routes he did in 2010 when he got 15 TD's. The difference was Cassel making terrible decisions.

Cassel has been making these horrible decisions ever since the Ravens playoff game in 2010. Anyone who watches the Chiefs play could easily see that.

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The Chiefs defense gave up almost ten more points per game last year than the 49ers.

Just saying...
The Chiefs' offense was one of the worst in the NFL and put a tremendous amount of pressure on the defense. If they can run a ball control offense their defense will play much better. Remember they held the Broncos to 17 points at Arrowhead.
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The Chiefs have some half-ass quick fix every offseason that fans get all pumped up about. Good to see the trend continue.
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The Chiefs have some half-ass quick fix every offseason that fans get all pumped up about. Good to see the trend continue.
This is so true.
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The Chiefs have some half-ass quick fix every offseason that fans get all pumped up about. Good to see the trend continue.
Take their secondary for starters.. Nobody is afraid of Shaun Smith or Duanta Robinson. Both were on CB needy teams, and both teams let them walk and opted to draft two rookie CBs early!
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If you are a team in the AFC West not named Broncos than you better have some good corners.
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Take their secondary for starters.. Nobody is afraid of Shaun Smith or Duanta Robinson. Both were on CB needy teams, and both teams let them walk and opted to draft two rookie CBs early!
I can't wait to see Robinson trying to cover Welker lol.
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The Chiefs have some half-ass quick fix every offseason that fans get all pumped up about. Good to see the trend continue.
Chiefs have had a talented team capable of making a playoff run the last 3 years.
Coaching and QB play have ruined it.
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The Chiefs have some half-ass quick fix every offseason that fans get all pumped up about. Good to see the trend continue.
This pretty much sums up my thinking. Every year they are supposed to be decent or even good, and most years they disappoint. I'll believe this team is significantly improved when I actually see it.
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