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Old 06-04-2013, 03:40 PM   #26
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I was just reading an article earlier where 75% off all potential political tax free "non-profits" were audited, on both sides. And really, that should be 100%. Seriously, why the fk should these groups get away without paying their taxes?

And it's hilarious what are almost all Bush appointees are in a big conspiracy with Obama. You guys wonder why you guys have no credibility and are mocked by this country, take a look at yourselves. America can recognize grown-ups and bitter children.
I've got news for you. It's going to be hard for you to take, so you might want to sit down.....

Most Government Employees are Democrats.

dun dun DUNNNNNNNNN.

And they don't all suddenly lose their jobs whenever a Republican gets elected. I guess maybe you're arguing that should change?

I'd say from the looks of this scandal, a large scale purge IS probably in order.

I'm still in shock that an internal auditor (the IG) can come in and ask employees "Hey, who ordered you to do this?" And they can just say "I don't want to tell you." And then just go on about their work as if nothing had happened. Where else in the world would that kind of explanation fly? (alongside your continued employment)

Exhibit 73297 - How you know your government is completely out of control.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:40 PM   #27
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Yep, "change" and "transparency" by this admin. It's just so overwhelming.
I guess none of the liberals on here find it odd that the former head of the IRS goes to the WH more than anyone else during the same time conservatives are targeted and harrassed by the IRS......
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I guess none of the liberals on here find it odd that the former head of the IRS goes to the WH more than anyone else during the same time conservatives are targeted and harrassed by the IRS......
Ah, he was just there for the Easter egg hunts. It's just all a coincidence. In their world, democrats are never involved in scandals.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:32 AM   #29
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Most Government Employees are Democrats.
Your evidence?
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:46 AM   #30
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Your evidence?
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000022300

oh, and common sense.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #31
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Doesn't look like a liberal website, so they won't believe those numbers. I'm surprised Romney even got that much. But democrats historically are the ones campaigning for larger government, so makes sense as you stated.
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And one wonders why the Fox News crowd is so stirred up...

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...-bob-woodward/
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:05 PM   #33
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Congressional investigators have not produced evidence to link the harassment of conservative groups to the White House or to higher-ups in the Obama administration. But the lack of evidence that any political appointee was involved hasnít stopped the lawmakers from assuming that it simply must be true. And so, they are going to hold hearings until they confirm their conclusions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...497_story.html

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Old 06-06-2013, 02:22 PM   #34
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This thing's only a couple weeks old Chief. I suppose you're gonna tell me that every investigation that ever happened had everything wrapped up in a week or two. The Abu Ghraib stuff went on for years. Sit back and relax... more trickles in every day.

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Two officials in the Internal Revenue Service's Cincinnati office said that officials in Washington helped direct the targeting of conservative and tea party groups that started in 2010, the Wall Street Journal reported late Wednesday.

The pair of Cincinnati officials made the comments to Congressional investigators, according to transcripts that were reviewed by the Journal.

One such official, Elizabeth Hofacre, told investigators that she "had no autonomy or no authority to act on" applications from conservative or tea party groups without input from one of the agency's lawyers in Washington. The other, Gary Muthert, said that he was told by a local manager in Cincinnati that "Washington, D.C. wanted some cases."
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I guess none of the liberals on here find it odd that the former head of the IRS goes to the WH more than anyone else during the same time conservatives are targeted and harrassed by the IRS......
I find it odd you believe stories even after they've been debunked....then again, it is you we are talking about here.
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I find it odd you believe stories even after they've been debunked....then again, it is you we are talking about here.
And by "debunked" you mean "there are no photos or recordings of him talking to the President about jerking the Tea Party Around"
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And by "debunked" you mean "there are no photos or recordings of him talking to the President about jerking the Tea Party Around"
Reading comprehension not your cup of tea?
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Reading comprehension not your cup of tea?
I read enough to see that Sully basically holds the same standard as the rest of all y'all.

If the President didn't personally sign the order, then nobody really did anything wrong.

Good luck with that precedent in the future.
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I read enough to see that Sully basically holds the same standard as the rest of all y'all.

If the President didn't personally sign the order, then nobody really did anything wrong.

Good luck with that precedent in the future.
What does sully have to do with my post in reply to errand?
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What does sully have to do with my post in reply to errand?
Where else was the Shulman visits story 'debunked'?
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Where else was the Shulman visits story 'debunked'?
Here's one example.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-house/276399/
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Where else was the Shulman visits story 'debunked'?
Does it matter who debunks it. Fact is the daily caller story is bogus.

Repeatedly pushing BS,doesn't make it true.
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Does it matter who debunks it. Fact is the daily caller story is bogus.

Repeatedly pushing BS,doesn't make it true.
Again, Shulman was asked under oath twice about visiting the WH more than a hundred times. He did not dispute the number either time.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:28 PM   #44
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Poor poor Obama, if he's re-elected, look at the mess he'll have inherited.
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Almost one third of the tax-exemption applications selected for additional scrutiny by the IRS were from groups that were not conservative.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...atives/276536/
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Almost one third of the tax-exemption applications selected for additional scrutiny by the IRS were from groups that were not conservative.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...atives/276536/
Funny, so as long as they do a little bit of actual work on the side of their harassing one particular group, you ok wit dat.
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Funny, so as long as they do a little bit of actual work on the side of their harassing one particular group, you ok wit dat.
Funny, the leaps of logic you make...

Who said I was okay with anything? I certainly didn't. Isn't/wasn't one of the major points that someone (Obama?!?) was targeting conservative groups? And doesn't this information bring that point into question? These are rhetorical questions, the answers to which you clearly want to avoid. Thus posts like one I'm responding to.
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Funny, the leaps of logic you make...

Who said I was okay with anything? I certainly didn't. Isn't/wasn't one of the major points that someone (Obama?!?) was targeting conservative groups? And doesn't this information bring that point into question? These are rhetorical questions, the answers to which you clearly want to avoid. Thus posts like one I'm responding to.
So if the Bush IRS tax audit division had selected 75% Democrats vs 25% Republican-or-Indie for latex-glove style audits, based on those criteria alone, you'd say that was evidence that there was nothing shady going on?

And that's not even getting into the nature of the full-fisting "Tell me your prayers and leave Planned Parenthood Alone!" treatment the IRS was dishing out.

"Hey yeah, but we asked a few other groups some questions too!" says the IRS

"See! Nothing really all that bad happened!" Says the ObamaTone.
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So...
I point out your leaps of logic, you dish up more of the same.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:56 AM   #50
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I point out your leaps of logic, you dish up more of the same.
Leaps of Logic? Textbook...

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Isn't/wasn't one of the major points that someone (Obama?!?) was targeting conservative groups? And doesn't this information bring that point into question?
I guess Cops can't be racially profiling so long as they pull a white dude over every now and again. Or sorry, in Tonyspeak it would "bring the concept of racial profiling into question"
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