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Old 05-31-2013, 06:58 AM   #1
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Default Over 75% want IRS invesigted by a special prosecutor.

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A new poll finds an overwhelming majority support appointing a special prosecutor to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s (IRS) targeting of political groups.

A Quinnipiac University poll released on Thursday shows 76 percent want a special counsel to 17 percent opposing.

The idea has strong support across all parties, with 88 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of Democrats and 78 percent of independents calling for a special prosecutor.

“There is overwhelming bipartisan support for a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS," said Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Assistant Director Peter Brown in a statement. "Voters apparently don't like the idea of Attorney General Eric Holder investigating the matter himself, perhaps because they don't exactly think highly of him.”




THE COUNTRY HAS LOST FAITH IN HOLDER!
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:28 AM   #2
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There should be an investigation, and it should go back prior to the obama term. But in the meantime congress should still get other things done as well.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:50 AM   #3
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IMO if Congress and the Senate are holding hearing on IRSGATE they can't do other things. It bogs them down in a huge fight. The best thing right now would be for Obama to ask for Holders resignation and appoint a new AG. Then that AG names a special prosecuter to investigate the IRS. I don't agree to any scope other then it goes where it goes. If that leads back to Bush, Clinton wherever they should follow the trail and dig out every bit.

But no one trusts Congress, and now the country doesn't respect Holder. His resignation should happen IMO. Obama IMO just wants to hope this all goes away and now its gotten out of hand for him. Hell his 2nd term turning into a friggin nightmare for him. Sometimes I wonder after Presidents win the election if they don't think Hmmmmm Al Gore, worth what 200 million now? Maybe losing and just enjoying money and life is better then being President. It must be pretty awesome though because they lie, cheat, and do whatever it takes to get the job.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:13 AM   #4
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People hate the IRS and those last 25% are stubborn. They are like the EPA where they set up their own rules and **** everyone else. At least in California that is how it is run.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:27 AM   #5
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IMO if Congress and the Senate are holding hearing on IRSGATE they can't do other things.
Yeah, I mean like what are we going to do if Congress can't focus on the truly important things.... like the name of DC's NFL franchise.
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Those who hate the EPA should go visit a country where corporations can do whatever they want and ask themselves why they wouldn't want to live there.
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Those who hate the EPA should go visit a country where corporations can do whatever they want and ask themselves why they wouldn't want to live there.
Maybe you should see how much of a Gustapo act they play and see if it fits into what the USA is about. California with their own EPA is way out of control.

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Another thing people can do is visit a country where the apparatchiks in power can do whatever they want and then ask themselves why they wouldn't want to live there.

Having an EPA is a good idea in general. How our EPA actually operates is another matter.
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Another thing people can do is visit a country where the apparatchiks in power can do whatever they want and then ask themselves why they wouldn't want to live there.

Having an EPA is a good idea in general. How our EPA actually operates is another matter.
Well said. What you really need is much clearer separation between those who set policy and those who enforce it. When those two functions get too close together, you start to see the kind of corruption we're seeing shipped in by the boatload today.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:31 AM   #10
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A new poll finds an overwhelming majority support appointing a special prosecutor to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s (IRS) targeting of political groups.

A Quinnipiac University poll released on Thursday shows 76 percent want a special counsel to 17 percent opposing.

The idea has strong support across all parties, with 88 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of Democrats and 78 percent of independents calling for a special prosecutor.

“There is overwhelming bipartisan support for a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS," said Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Assistant Director Peter Brown in a statement. "Voters apparently don't like the idea of Attorney General Eric Holder investigating the matter himself, perhaps because they don't exactly think highly of him.”




THE COUNTRY HAS LOST FAITH IN HOLDER!
90% were in favor of background checks too, majority sentiment means nothing to this crop of politicians.
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Yeah, I mean like what are we going to do if Congress can't focus on the truly important things.... like the name of DC's NFL franchise.
ya..gasp..or immigration reform
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90% were in favor of background checks too, majority sentiment means nothing to this crop of politicians.
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Another thing people can do is visit a country where the apparatchiks in power can do whatever they want and then ask themselves why they wouldn't want to live there.

Having an EPA is a good idea in general. How our EPA actually operates is another matter.
Yes where were those "apparatchiks" before the gulf oil spill, regulatory captured by blameless BP no less. But then again how can the EPA operate if it is constantly undermined or entirely left powerless (thank you Cheney). Then when the shît hits the fan, the retarded circle jerk of blaming the ineffectual and incompetent government, nay "apparatchiks", is renewed.

America is far removed from Communist bureaucracy, that you don't see the crony capitalism for the regulatory neutering is proven every crisis.
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Yes where were those "apparatchiks" before the gulf oil spill, regulatory captured by blameless BP no less. But then again how can the EPA operate if it is constantly undermined or entirely left powerless (thank you Cheney). Then when the shît hits the fan, the retarded circle jerk of blaming the ineffectual and incompetent government, nay "apparatchiks", is renewed.

America is far removed from Communist bureaucracy, that you don't see the crony capitalism for the regulatory neutering is proven every crisis.
That's not quite the whole story...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...T_N.htm?csp=34

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Before BP's disastrous oil spill, the last time the obscure federal Minerals Management Service made news was in 2008, when investigators uncovered old-fashioned sleaze at an MMS office in Denver. Workers there accepted football tickets, golf games and ski outings from energy companies. They partied with oil and gas representatives, drank their booze, took illegal drugs and even had sexual relations with some.

The scandal gave new meaning to the old expression about regulators being "in bed with the industry," but the juicy details obscured deeper problems within the agency, which, as part of the Interior Department, is supposed to regulate and oversee oil drilling. Instead, the agency ceded much of its role to the very companies it was supposed to watch. Now, the nation — the Gulf Coast in particular — is paying the price.
Those poor poor federal workers just didn't have any choice but to take those vacations, drink that booze, and freebase those drugs. They were just too overworked to do their jobs!

The fact of the matter is when the regulators are just as corrupt as the regulated, you're already doing things the Soviet way.
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Yes where were those "apparatchiks" before the gulf oil spill, regulatory captured by blameless BP no less. But then again how can the EPA operate if it is constantly undermined or entirely left powerless (thank you Cheney). Then when the shît hits the fan, the retarded circle jerk of blaming the ineffectual and incompetent government, nay "apparatchiks", is renewed.

America is far removed from Communist bureaucracy, that you don't see the crony capitalism for the regulatory neutering is proven every crisis.
Hard to reply, as your post is a non-sequitur.

By the way, although "apparatchik" is of Russian origin and did originally refer to Communist functionaries, the term has evolved and is well suited for describing our very own regulatory class.
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The IRS apparently are given free reign to do whatever and nobody oversees nor they have to answer for apparent and obvious misdeeds? And the top get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, with huge bonuses that would make bank CEO's blush? Where do I sign?
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