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Old 05-22-2013, 02:51 PM   #176
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If you had bothered to watch the videos linked by I Have a Light this discussion would be over. Until you do it is over for me.
Narrow it down to one which actually contains what I'm asking for an I'll gladly look in full detail. But I won't slog though hours and hours of bull**** to find it. That's what I call a "denial of service" argument.

Do I need to help you understand what those terms I posted twice now mean? Are the wiki links not sufficient for your understanding?
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:54 PM   #177
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I am so glad I do not think like you.

Prove electricity - you can't
LMAO yes you can.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:58 PM   #178
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LMAO yes you can.

do it
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:07 PM   #179
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do it
The only evidence you need is: Go stick your finger in a live light socket.

It's objective: Doesn't matter if you believe it or not, you'll get shocked.
It's repeatable: No matter how many times you do it, you'll get shocked.
It's falsifiable: If I disconnect the circuit, you won't get shocked.
It's empirical: You're directly experiencing the sensation of getting shocked.
It's statistically relevant: everyone that sticks their finger in that socket gets shocked.

And all that adds up to a decent scientific bit of evidence.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:11 PM   #180
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The only evidence you need is: Go stick your finger in a live light socket.

It's objective: Doesn't matter if you believe it or not, you'll get shocked.
It's repeatable: No matter how many times you do it, you'll get shocked.
It's falsifiable: If I disconnect the circuit, you won't get shocked.
It's empirical: You're directly experiencing the sensation of getting shocked.
It's statistically relevant: everyone that sticks their finger in that socket gets shocked.

And all that adds up to a decent scientific bit of evidence.

but what is it?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:15 PM   #181
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but what is it?
Whether you know what it is or not doesn't prevent you from proving its existence. That's not to say we don't know what it is mind you, only that your question is irrelevant.

The only reason I'm humoring you at the moment is to see if it will help you understand what it is I'm asking for -- as you clearly have no concept.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:18 PM   #182
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Whether you know what it is or not doesn't prevent you from proving its existence. That's not to say we don't know what it is mind you, only that your question is irrelevant.

The only reason I'm humoring you at the moment is to see if it will help you understand what it is I'm asking for -- as you clearly have no concept.
So you can't tell me what electricity is?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:21 PM   #183
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So you can't tell me what electricity is?
Oh look, more attempts to deflect. I've humored you, as I said, to help you understand what it is I'm asking for.

Can you provide it or not?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:27 PM   #184
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You asked me to "prove" electricity, not explain it. I showed you how that's done (in a grossly simplified way).

Similarly I'm not asking you to explain anything, I'm asking you to provide evidence of results (i.e. "prove" it). Until that occurs, whatever "explanation" there is is irrelevant.

More or less, we're talking about the difference between Scientific Theory and Law.

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Old 05-22-2013, 03:37 PM   #185
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The only evidence you need is: Go stick your finger in a live light socket.

It's objective: Doesn't matter if you believe it or not, you'll get shocked.

Doesn't matter if you believe it or not your health will improve vastly over time

It's repeatable: No matter how many times you do it, you'll get shocked.

The more you do it the better you will look and feel many test markers will improve (covered in the videos you refuse to watch)

It's falsifiable: If I disconnect the circuit, you won't get shocked.

If you return to your old ways of eating your apperaence will revert to what it was and your test markes will return to the levels before you started the green smoothie regime


It's empirical: You're directly experiencing the sensation of getting shocked.

You will feel the difference the very first day you start a juice / green smoothie cleanse


It's statistically relevant: everyone that sticks their finger in that socket gets shocked.

Everyone will improve to some degree (there are determining factors in this such as attitude and level of exercise that must be factored in .

And all that adds up to a decent scientific bit of evidence.

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Old 05-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #186
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Once again, I have no beef with the claim that better diet = better health. We're talking about curing cancer here.

Jesus you're daft aren't you?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:45 PM   #187
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Yes, please. Please point us to the minute mark in any of the videos where there is any evidence that what you're claiming cures cancer. Please quote for us any evidence of same.

Thanks in advance.
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Once again, I have no beef with the claim that better diet = better health. We're talking about curing cancer here.

Jesus you're daft aren't you?

Watch food matters

Watch Sick and Tired

Watch what I have a Light linked videos


Watch Run from the cure


Google Dr. Mercola & cancer

Google David Wolfe & cancer

Google Dr Stephen Sinatra

Read China Study

If you do that and come away with the same level of doubt you exhibit now I will buy you a double cheese super sized big mac.

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Old 05-22-2013, 03:48 PM   #189
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Yes, please. Please point us to the minute mark in any of the videos where there is any evidence that what you're claiming cures cancer. Please quote for us any evidence of same.

Thanks in advance.
Another completely subjective, personal story (or perhaps many) relayed in a not so subtly disguised commercial in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ...
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #190
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Another completely subjective, personal story (or perhaps many) relayed in a not so subtly disguised commercial in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ...
I watched this "film" a few years ago...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_t...Do_We_Know!%3F

Reminded me a lot of the videos people have posted on this thread. It was presented in a very interesting and engaging way, until I realized that there weren't any actual statistics or science...weird, right? Then you google the people in the videos who are passed off as experts, and you realize...someone is taking people's money for this.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:04 PM   #191
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I think if a few people told me the amazing health benefits they received by following a particular food regime I would be inclined to investigate but that's just me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2qd_foV-4
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:41 PM   #193
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That piece is a great example of bull**** science brought to light:
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Nowhere in this article does ABC News mention ways to suppress the BRCA1 gene by, for example, eating raw cruciferous vegetables containing Indole-3-Carbinol (I3C), a potent anti-cancer nutrient that halts breast cancer in its tracks. Nowhere does ABC News mention vitamin D which prevents nearly 4 out of 5 cancers of all types, including breast cancer.
Neither vitamin D nor I3C have ever been shown to have any properties that combat cancer. I3C has been shown to decrease tumorgenesis in the presence of aflatoxin in some cell lines (but critically has been shown to have the opposite effect, promotion of cancer growth of liver tumors which is where aflatoxin is the biggest player). Conversely I3C has been shown to disrupt the estrogen pathway leading to hormone inbalance. Estrogen is a key player in promoting breast tumor growth and fluctuations in estrogen levels could cause breast tumors.

Vitamin D deficiency is associated with some forms of cancer, however since the middle ages vitamin D deficiency has been entirely eradicated in the western world except in the elderly. There is no clinical evidence that vitamin D supplements have any benefit in preventing or fighting cancer.

Several clinical studies reviewing 1000's of patients have found that having a BRCA1 mutation increases the risk of breast cancer about 5 times and the risk of ovarian cancer by about 10 times.
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So you can't tell me what electricity is?
Electricity is energy carried by charged particles (often electrons) accelerated by a potential difference caused by buildup of electrostatic charge.
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Evidence is in the countless people that have cured themselves of disease by natural methods.
No.

Evidence is results of reproducible methods with an effect that can be distinguished from a matched control population above random natural variation.
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Holy cow when Jolie done prepping her body to avoid cancer Brad Pitt will have nothing left to play with.
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Holy cow when Jolie done prepping her body to avoid cancer Brad Pitt will have nothing left to play with.
I assume she will have some nice implants when she is done.
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Another element of Jobs’ decision-making process was, according to Isaacson, his trust of his own instinct. Jobs had spent time studying Buddhism in India, and he felt it served him in his work. “The main thing I’ve learned is intuition, that the people in India are not just pure rational thinkers, that the great spiritual ones also have an intuition.”

But however well his intuition and “magical thinking” may have worked for him at work, Jobs’ postponement of surgery in favor of alternative means was a bizarre executive decision. “We talked about this a lot.” says the biographer. “He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it. … I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwa...tment-regrets/
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The documentary movies I posted contain the type of science you all are looking for scattered throughout them, gathered from clinical professionals. As none of you would scour through information to find data that I personally require, neither will I for you. I will however leave you with this one bit, as I knew it would be easy to find. And while these studies merely reference the effects of eliminating one type of toxicity (animal products), there is still far more toxicity in our lives in addition to what has been demonstrated here.



10:10 -23:15 is the part where it specifically references cancer.

This however will most likely be my final post in this thread. That is unless someone actually comes up with an intelligent statement, counter argument or other information that is actually worthy of discussion. As of yet all I have seen is a bunch textbook molded minds (purely driven by faith in the system they were fed). Blatantly denying everything put in front of them without doing any research on the matter. And claiming scientific method above all else, which it is very evident that none of you even truly understand the process of scientific method at all nor implement it in your lives.

I encourage and await intelligence...

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Old 05-30-2013, 12:03 PM   #200
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I assume she will have some nice implants when she is done.
You don't have to assume. It says in the article she wrote that she already has them.

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