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Old 04-13-2013, 09:30 AM   #51
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If you go by the platform of the Libertarian Party, they're open border prostitutes. I wouldn't call that conservative.
Libertarian,fascist,reactionary,nationalist,Republ ican, neo-con,all are right-wing ideologies.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:56 AM   #52
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“I want to apologize. I think that should have been handled better.”
– Fox News’ Greg Gutfeld, after the Fox control room pulled the plug on the president’s angry Rose Garden speech about gun control after a few seconds, in order to talk about liberal media bias.

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Old 04-19-2013, 07:40 AM   #53
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Libertarian,fascist,reactionary,nationalist,Republ ican, neo-con,all are right-wing ideologies.
Wow that's daft. There are no left-wing nationalists? What is reactionary other than a Marxist slur against their enemies?

Get this: Add all those "right wing ideologies" together and compare them to Marxism. Which has the bigger body count?

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Old 04-19-2013, 07:41 AM   #54
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Who needs "Teapublicans" when you have good Democrats to kill bad bills?

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America will be a minority-majority nation within the next fifty years. The old, angry, white conservatives who cling to guns and god and fear anything they don't know are a dying breed. The GOP is going to be an afterthought if they cannot change their archaic ways and belief systems. That is pretty self-evident.
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Wow that's daft. There are no left-wing nationalists? What is reactionary other than a Marxist slur against their enemies?

Get this: Add all those "right wing ideologies" together and compare them to Marxism. Which has the bigger body count?

Ouch!
Didn't realize right-wing white supremacy groups were liberal.
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Wow that's daft. There are no left-wing nationalists? What is reactionary other than a Marxist slur against their enemies?

Get this: Add all those "right wing ideologies" together and compare them to Marxism. Which has the bigger body count?

Ouch!
Right-wing has the bigger count,adolf hitler,a right-winger, may alone have a bigger body count.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

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Nazism (in full, National Socialism; German: Nationalsozialismus) is the ideology of the Nazi Party in Germany and related movements elsewhere. [1][2][3][4][5] It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism. [6] Nazism developed from the influence of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany. [7] The party and its affiliates in Germanic states supported pan-Germanicism. [8] It was designed to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. [9] Major elements of Nazism have been described as far-right, such as allowing domination of society by people deemed racially superior, while purging society of people declared inferior, who were said to be a threat to national survival.
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At best, George W. Bush was a well-meaning man who gave the occasional nice speech and was thoroughly overmatched by events. At worst, he was the most disastrous foreign policy president of the post-1945 era. Am I missing anything?
http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/pos..._george_w_bush
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Libertarian,fascist,reactionary,nationalist,Republ ican, neo-con,all are right-wing ideologies.
http://www.lp.org/platform

I don't see how Libertarian ideals are ultra right wing and more conservative that the GOP stands today.

Giving citizens morefreedom from the power and coercive nature of the Federal Government is a bad thing? Reducing the scope of Federal Government and demanding the reamain fiscally sane is a bad thing?

Libertarians are gaining traction because people are tired of Federal Waste of our income tax dollars, tired of the favoritismn of the Federal Tax Code, tired of decades of wars with little to nothing to show in the end, and more wars to come.... people are tired of the corruption of the Democratic and Repuiblcian parties, and their like goal of more power over your life.
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http://www.lp.org/platform

I don't see how Libertarian ideals are ultra right wing and more conservative that the GOP stands today.

Giving citizens morefreedom from the power and coercive nature of the Federal Government is a bad thing? Reducing the scope of Federal Government and demanding the reamain fiscally sane is a bad thing?

Libertarians are gaining traction because people are tired of Federal Waste of our income tax dollars, tired of the favoritismn of the Federal Tax Code, tired of decades of wars with little to nothing to show in the end, and more wars to come.... people are tired of the corruption of the Democratic and Repuiblcian parties, and their like goal of more power over your life.
That's a nice PR site on behalf of libertarians. It's load of ****,but nice PR nonetheless.

Libertarians aren't gaining ****,all that's happening is the base of the republican party is becoming more libertarian.
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That's a nice PR site on behalf of libertarians. It's load of ****,but nice PR nonetheless.

Libertarians aren't gaining ****,all that's happening is the base of the republican party is becoming more libertarian.
Ist that what most independents, former R's want? A GOP that is leaving the social issues to the individuals, staying out of other's countries business, and roping in a growing government?
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Ist that what most independents, former R's want? A GOP that is leaving the social issues to the individuals, staying out of other's countries business, and roping in a growing government?
Former Rs' want it that way cause they don't believe the Rs' are conservative enough. Libertarianism sounds nice until you start reading the fine print.
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The GOP's demographic time bomb:

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America will be a minority-majority nation within the next fifty years. The old, angry, white conservatives who cling to guns and god and fear anything they don't know are a dying breed. The GOP is going to be an afterthought if they cannot change their archaic ways and belief systems. That is pretty self-evident.
Basically what you're doing is rote-parroting DNC propaganda mill slurs and appealing to novelty.

Is this what a college education buys nowadays?
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Now we know why the Democrats want the border open like a whore's legs, and what it does to the wages of Americans isn't even a blip on the radar.
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Hilarious, pathetic people. I'm never sure whether I should laugh uncontrollably or projectile vomit every time I look at the LP platform.
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Didn't realize right-wing white supremacy groups were liberal.
I've yet to figure out what a "white supremacy group" is. Perhaps you can help us.

We have plenty of left-wing nationalist groups and parties, you're just ignoring them. North Korea is a national-level version of it. So is China and countless others. We also have the National Bolsheviks.
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Hilarious, pathetic people. I'm never sure whether I should laugh uncontrollably or projectile vomit every time I look at the LP platform.
What do you find humorus, or vomit worthy exactly?
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Conservartives hate Nate Silver because he is typically spot on. I find that ironic since they attest to being the party of metrics, facts and outcomes.

I guess when the news isn't good, Nate is just another liberally biased hack?
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That's a nice PR site on behalf of libertarians. It's load of ****,but nice PR nonetheless.

Libertarians aren't gaining ****,all that's happening is the base of the republican party is becoming more libertarian.
So more people are beginning to identify as Libertarian, but they are not gaining anything?

That doesn't make any sense.
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What do you find humorus, or vomit worthy exactly?
The idea of open borders actually being beneficial. Haven't we already seen enough to show this is just the opposite? Garbage like that will/is undermining domestic wages and destroy(ing) the country

You have to wonder if they're living with their head in the clouds or they're just that loaded up on crack.

Then you have the isolationist horse ****. Then you have the political correctness and excessive "non-discriminatory" garbage - excessive because it goes to the point of suicidal.

It's amusing they're now lifting their immigration philosophy from the CATO Institute. That alone is a huge red flag. CATO is flipping nuts.

The "personal relationships" section would mean that marriage involving incest, children, and harems would now be legal.
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Right-wing has the bigger count,adolf hitler,a right-winger, may alone have a bigger body count.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Hitler didn't even try to kill as many people as the USSR alone did. You're out of your mind, lefty.
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So more people are beginning to identify as Libertarian, but they are not gaining anything?

That doesn't make any sense.
A party in the minority moving to the right,is still a minority party. Nothing changes.
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The idea of open borders actually being beneficial. Haven't we already seen enough to show this is just the opposite? Garbage like that will/is undermining domestic wages and destroy(ing) the country

You have to wonder if they're living with their head in the clouds or they're just that loaded up on crack.

Then you have the isolationist horse ****. Then you have the political correctness and excessive "non-discriminatory" garbage - excessive because it goes to the point of suicidal.

It's amusing they're now lifting their immigration philosophy from the CATO Institute. That alone is a huge red flag. CATO is flipping nuts.

The "personal relationships" section would mean that marriage involving incest, children, and harems would now be legal.

How is it undermining wages, American want cheap, in turn you need cheap, cheap labor- who is going to do that other than people who really have no other choice, or people who see working migrant fields in California much more lucrative than have no job in Mexico? I am not into open borders, I am into a border/ immigration strategy that allows people who want to work, and where there is demand for their work, to be able to do so.

The Constitution doesn't lay out that we are the world police, does it? It doesn't say were Nation Builders, does it? It is really that obscure a thought that instead of spending 10 years and trillions in the Desert, that maybe we should revamp domestic security to identify attacks here against our people, and defend the domestic mainland? The Middle East is a Sewer, it always will be, we can protect our interests and support out allies wihtout being involved in enfless and ongoing nation and regime building operations.

Incest is still against the law, having sex with a child is still against the law. The platform is that legal aged conscenting adults should not have their relationships defined and restricted by Government- 13 States have already shown this is the wave of the future, expanding right rather than limiting under the scope of Xtian values.. this is a land of free peoples who can do what they wish as long as consenting and legal... Libertarians are on board, as is most of the Nation.
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Basically what you're doing is rote-parroting DNC propaganda mill slurs and appealing to novelty.

Is this what a college education buys nowadays?
No. The Census Bureau projects that in the 2040s America will be a minority majority nation.

Considering that, plus how unpopular the GOP is with minorities. . . they will fight a lot of tough battles in areas that are traditionally strongholds of theirs that have very rapidly rising immigrant/ethnic populations. States like Arizona, Texas, etc. will come in play. Texas would be a huge loss for the R's because it has been a stronghold for them for ages. However, with the rising Hispanic demographic there (and what it accounts for in voting % -- which will only increase as population increases) they are going to have trouble.

It really is just common sense. They will do their best (probably this next election) to put a guy like Rubio or Jindal on the ticket to try and shake away the old, angry white man stigma -- but the stigma will continue to exist, and it won't help them because their reasons for doing it will be self-evident. It is hard (and going to be almost impossible) to wipe away decades of social/domestic policy and rhetoric which demonized different people.

Just my thoughts.
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