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Old 04-30-2013, 04:45 PM   #26
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Malik is a real factor and wildcard this year and adds solid depth and possibly future starter potential as well... These guys know who to build a team for sure.

Next off season I imagine a big focus on a #1CB, possibly MLB and a top safety will be the main goal .. the rest will be for trimming the Xmas turkey and solidifying our depth in those few areas where that might be needed. This is how championship teams are built.

We just need the luck of the Irish to carry through these next few years to become something really special.
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Malik is a real factor and wildcard this year and adds solid depth and possibly future starter potential as well... These guys know who to build a team for sure.

Next off season I imagine a big focus on a #1CB, possibly MLB and a top safety will be the main goal .. the rest will be for trimming the Xmas turkey and solidifying our depth in those few areas where that might be needed. This is how championship teams are built.

We just need the luck of the Irish to carry through these next few years to become something really special.
i agree, i could also see us finding a C in the draft next year.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:11 PM   #28
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I don't think Phillips will replace Doom's production and really Smith may not even be ready at full strength till later in the season.

I think it's more likely that we'll get a lot more production from guys we already have like Wolfe getting a full offseason of strength and conditioning training, and Ayers being in his contract year.

Phillips will do his part and I especially look forward to seeing him get reaquainted with Rivers.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:25 PM   #29
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I actually expect Smith to be on the bubble for the final 53 and the front office stashing him on IR for the year. So with that said, I think Phillips is a solid signing to be our PRS with Ayers manning the base defense.
Yeah, that's a good call. Not a bad idea to stash that dude on IR this year and let him fully recover, meanwhile he gets to learn the Broncos defense, get used to the NFL and new city, get to weight train with an NFL staff. Come next year, he'll be fully healed, probably even stronger, good knowledge of playbook and sorta used to life in the NFL. I think he could be really productive in 2014. Phillips will suffice nicely this year. Between him and Ayers, I think that side is fine, especially now that you have a seriously lagit DT rotation.

I think we'll be top 3 in total defense. I think the other 2 will be SF and Seattle.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:28 PM   #30
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Malik is a real factor and wildcard this year and adds solid depth and possibly future starter potential as well... These guys know who to build a team for sure.

Next off season I imagine a big focus on a #1CB, possibly MLB and a top safety will be the main goal .. the rest will be for trimming the Xmas turkey and solidifying our depth in those few areas where that might be needed. This is how championship teams are built.

We just need the luck of the Irish to carry through these next few years to become something really special.

I don't know. I used to be sorta high on Malik but what he's not is a pure DE. He doesn't rush the passer good enough. He's not a DT either, not strong enough. What he is though, is a nice nickel DT or short yardage DE.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:28 PM   #31
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2. With the big increase in interior Dline pressure via SLy, Knighton and Big Vick as well as opposing teams not begin able to relax one bit with Phillips. Ayers and perhaps later in the year Quanterius bringing it from the right while Von and Wolfe set the left edge and blow through to the QB with regularity ... I fully expect Von to at least match, if not significantly exceed, his 18.5 sacks of last year and may well break the single season record if he makes a full 16 game season healthy and not slowed down.
The number of times a player has improved on 18+ sacks in the following season is nearly zero. Not saying it can't happen, especially with Von Miller of all people, but I still wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.
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I am still waiting for your poll
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:54 PM   #33
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if you're replacing one guy with multiple guys, you're not replacing him. but it's not like we had an alternative, here.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:00 PM   #34
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The number of times a player has improved on 18+ sacks in the following season is nearly zero. Not saying it can't happen, especially with Von Miller of all people, but I still wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

Because I'm bored, I decided to look this up. It's happened twice. Reggie White went from 18 in '86 to 21 in '87 (he then "regressed" back to 18 in 88) and Mark Gastineau went from 19 in '83 to 22 in '84. Von could, particularly considering his age, but there is not a single player in the sack-as-a-stat era who I would feel comfortable predicting 18+ sacks for on a consistent basis. It's also worth noting that only four players have had 18+ sacks twice in their entire careers, much less successively (White, Strahan, Ware, Gastineau).

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:09 PM   #35
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i think Jackson will do really well for us. he just needs seasoning. i think he'll be a flexible DE and DT for us. sometimes on the edge as a rusher and other times inside to help against the run and provide some inside rush.

now Sly being drafted takes away some of the need for Jackson to move inside as it adds a lot to the rotation.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:13 PM   #36
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I see Smith as a complete non-factor this year. He's still recuperating and he's a project, based on an educated gamble.

I think the bolstering of the DT positions will be the main thing to offset the loss of Doom. Phillips can contibute. Not sure how much he has left in the tank. I'm expecting a slight drop in pass pressure and sacks.

Hopefully, the improvements to the offense can make up for that.
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There's no way an injured rookie and an over the hill vet make up for one of the best pass rushers in the league. Not by a long shot, at least in the short term, which is the concern we have now with Manning.

In the long term, Phillips isn't part of the equation, and Smith will need time to develop & coming off injury will slow that. I also don't find it fair to place the majority of the expectation solely on a 5th round draft choice. Long term, others will have to be brought in to supplement, so overall, no, I cannot say that I am satisfied with what the FO has/hasn't done to replace Doom's production.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:19 PM   #38
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Yeah Im satisfied with the additions but I doubt they will have the impact this year that Doom would have had. But drafting a developmental guy with good production is nice. And Phillips seems to have a little in the gas tank. I like that hes a versatile player. And Ayers is a little better pass rusher than I remembered after re-watching all the games. The Broncos look to be in good shape on the edge imo.
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Yeah Im satisfied with the additions but I doubt they will have the impact this year that Doom would have had. But drafting a developmental guy with good production is nice. And Phillips seems to have a little in the gas tank. I like that hes a versatile player. And Ayers is a little better pass rusher than I remembered after re-watching all the games. The Broncos look to be in good shape on the edge imo.
This part always cracks me up when talking about Phillips. He is younger then both Freeney and Abraham. If he is an aging vet with little left in the tank then Doom isn't far behind him. He also was reported to be out of shape and unmotivated the last few years in SD and he still managed to get 9.5 sacks last year with a rookie on the other side of him that managed 1 sack.

Now he is on a winning team which should only motivate him to be in shape and he also has one best pass rushers in the NFL on the other side of him. If he shows up motivated stat wise we should at the very least match our totals from last year with Phillips and he should bridge the cap next year if Smith does go on IR for the year.

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i don't see Elvis as irreplaceable as other do.
i'm a big Doom fan but 54 tackles and 11 sacks is replaceable.
Phillips had 9.5 sacks last year and only 4 less tackles. he's two years older than Elvis.

we basically got Phillips for what Elvis was offered after he was cut.
and we still are not on the hook for the big cap number Doom would have had before faxgate.

take a DE in the top 2 rounds next year to replace Phillips(if he doesn't work out or come back) and boom, we're still on the better end of it.
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Yeah Im satisfied with the additions but I doubt they will have the impact this year that Doom would have had. But drafting a developmental guy with good production is nice. And Phillips seems to have a little in the gas tank. I like that hes a versatile player. And Ayers is a little better pass rusher than I remembered after re-watching all the games. The Broncos look to be in good shape on the edge imo.
Well Phillips had what, like 2 sacks less then Doom last year? So it's not like it's going from best in the NFL to a lost cause at RDE. I also agree that, it could be all a mute point anyway, in terns of Phillips and Smith. I just don't think you can overlook Ayers right now. He is a better pass rusher then most give him credit for. I don't see him get the sacks but whenever I watch the games and he's been in, he's just oh so close to sacks, he's getting pressure. I think the upgrade to the interior of our DL will really help things out. There will be a bigger push up the middle this year and QB's can't simply just step up inside the pocket to avoid Miller and who ever else. I also think we've upgraded our secondary with Rogers so I see the defense as a whole, improved. We might take a dip in sacks but we'll still be near the top.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #42
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Big Al and Dmac talked today about Freeney. Supposedly John gave him until Saturday to give him a call on whether he wanted to be a Bronco and then they signed Phillips. Supossedly Freeney now says his asking price is 2 years $8 mill and both DMac and Big Al thought he'd soon be a Bronco.
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Meh, doesn't look too bad on paper. The only thing is trying to sub too many guys in or out depending on down and distance. Trying to sub in/out too many guys can lead to some messed up plays.
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Don't forget Malik Jackson. I think he is a guy being extremely overlooked
Right! You see his so overlooked I forgot about him. He's a solid LDE. I really hope Beal steps up and acts like he did a OU and take the job from Ayers. I really think Ayers is a sitting duck at the starting RDE for either Smith or Beal to take the spot or if push comes to shove Phillips.
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Big Al and Dmac talked today about Freeney. Supposedly John gave him until Saturday to give him a call on whether he wanted to be a Bronco and then they signed Phillips. Supossedly Freeney now says his asking price is 2 years $8 mill and both DMac and Big Al thought he'd soon be a Bronco.
There isn't room for that turd burgler. He missed the boat.
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Big Al and Dmac talked today about Freeney. Supposedly John gave him until Saturday to give him a call on whether he wanted to be a Bronco and then they signed Phillips. Supossedly Freeney now says his asking price is 2 years $8 mill and both DMac and Big Al thought he'd soon be a Bronco.
**** him, we have our DE replacement now.
sucker tried to hold out for too much coin and assumed we'd bite.
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I think out of everyone on the team Woodyard gains the most from Doom leaving. We were always a bit small on the weakside because Doom small, Woodyard not super physical. Now Woodyard may be able to do a bit more. I really like Woodyard and think he can still get better and make more plays. I'd like to see Woodyard go after the QB a bit more this yr. We could make them think its Von coming, then bring Woodyard instead.
Along those same lines whoever the MLB will be will benefit from Knighton and Sly additions in the middle.
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i don't see Elvis as irreplaceable as other do.
i'm a big Doom fan but 54 tackles and 11 sacks is replaceable.
Phillips had 9.5 sacks last year and only 4 less tackles. he's two years older than Elvis.

we basically got Phillips for what Elvis was offered after he was cut.
and we still are not on the hook for the big cap number Doom would have had before faxgate.

take a DE in the top 2 rounds next year to replace Phillips(if he doesn't work out or come back) and boom, we're still on the better end of it.
He also had 7 forced fumbles and was among the league leaders in QB pressures.

I like Phillips much better than Freeney because Phillips can actually do something besides just rush the passer. He is pretty much a complete LBer.
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Along those same lines whoever the MLB will be will benefit from Knighton and Sly additions in the middle.
i keep thinking of this lineup Wolfe-Knighton-Sly-Phillips
that will be pure hell for a opposing OL and allow the MLB to get some serious one on one time with the RB and sometimes behind the line.
that will really help keep him clean of blockers.
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He also had 7 forced fumbles and was among the league leaders in QB pressures.

I like Phillips much better than Freeney because Phillips can actually do something besides just rush the passer. He is pretty much a complete LBer.
agreed. he's another flexible guy we can use to further tweak the D and confuse the O. we can use him as a LB,DE,pass rush specialist,drop him into coverage or play the run.
we might have the most flexible defense in the league.
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