Shaun Phillips - Page 6 - The Orange Mane

cutthemdown · 04-28-2013, 07:34 PM

Hard to judge SD players over the last 2-3 yrs as the team just had no leadership worth a damn. Norv Turner lets players slack off IMO. Happened with Oakland, happened with SD. He will never be a HC in the NFL again. It's not a great sign a player stopped working hard but IMO impossible to not work hard and make it in Denver right now. If Phillips shows up out of shape he might just find himself cut.

cutthemdown · 04-28-2013, 07:36 PM

Elway tried to sign Doom it wasn't the Broncos fault other then they decided he wasn't going to be paid 12 mil a yr.

Besides now we get to watch Clady stone him opening week while our offense chews the Ravens to pieces. They simply do not have enough to guard Decker, DT, Welker, Manning.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-28-2013, 07:37 PM

The 3-4 look Broncos would look like this?
L.DE: Wolfe
Nose: Vickerson
R.DE: S. Williams

L.OLB: Von Miller
L.ILB: Irving
R.ILB: Phillips
R.OLB: Woodyard

?

peacepipe · 04-28-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

The 3-4 look Broncos would look like this?
L.DE: Wolfe
Nose: Vickerson
R.DE: S. Williams

L.OLB: Von Miller
L.ILB: Irving
R.ILB: Phillips
R.OLB: Woodyard

?

Woodward would be ILB,Phillips OLB . OLBs in a 3-4 are the pass rushers which is why Phillips was signed.

S. Williams would be NT. Vickerson/unrien would be R.DE.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-28-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

Woodward would be ILB,Phillips OLB . OLBs in a 3-4 are the pass rushers which is why Phillips was signed.

S. Williams would be NT. Vickerson/unrien would be R.DE.

You trust Woodyard with the inside rush defense?

If the Broncos blitz Phillips, the LBs look like last year with Irving taking over the mike LB. If you blitz Von, Irving takes the sam LB roll which he backed up last year and Phillips takes the mike LB roll and he has better size and experience to take on the rush. Well that my thought.

Edit:

Why Sly as Nose? He's not the biggest at 315, Vickerson is bugger at 330+. And you would waste Sly's quick 1st step against double teams instead of maybe getting single match against tackles.

P.S. Of course we are asumming we're playing in a 3-4 even set.

peacepipe · 04-28-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

You trust Woodyard with the inside rush defense?

If the Broncos blitz Phillips, the LBs look like last year with Irving taking over the mike LB. If you blitz Von, Irving takes the sam LB roll which he backed up last year and Phillips takes the mike LB roll and he has better size and experience to take on the rush. Well that my thought.

Edit:

Why Sly as Nose? He's not the biggest at 315, Vickerson is bugger at 330+. And you would waste Sly's quick 1st step against double teams instead of maybe getting single match against tackles.

P.S. Of course we are asumming we're playing in a 3-4 even set.

,vickerson weights only 9 lbs heavier the Williams.
You can have vickerson,knight & Williams rotating at NT or DE.
Wood yard is a good player but he doesn't have the pass rushing skills to play OLB in a 3-4. I hate to say it but woodyard at best is a ILB in a 3-4,outside of that he doesn't fit into a 3-4.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-28-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

,vickerson weights only 9 lbs heavier the Williams.
You can have vickerson,knight & Williams rotating at NT or DE.
Wood yard is a good player but he doesn't have the pass rushing skills to play OLB in a 3-4. I hate to say it but woodyard at best is a ILB in a 3-4,outside of that he doesn't fit into a 3-4.

The problem is when you blitz Von. It makes Woodyard the mike LB. You trust Woodyard as the mike in your scheme?

Edit: PS OLB is just the title. I'm talking about responsibility that the LBs would have. And I'm trying to keep Woodyard out of the middle of the defense.

theAPAOps5 · 04-29-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

That's basically what we did last season. We were probably lined up in a 3-4 more than we were a 4-3 last season.

I should have said, "they are looking to build more flexibility in the flex position." I fully recognize they lined up in a 3-4 equally or more but maybe they think Phillips can be closer to Millers style rather than Dumervil and his pure leverage, and speed rush.

Again I only heard and read comments that makes me think they a regions to try and create more opportunities with. Von Miller light version in Phillips

DBroncos4life · 04-29-2013, 12:13 AM

Phillips already tweeted that he is excited to be playing for the "good guys". He claims he likes to trash talk to trash talk. Hopefully he is motivated and becomes a Romo like figure for our D.

pricejj · 04-29-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

The problem is when you blitz Von. It makes Woodyard the mike LB. You trust Woodyard as the mike in your scheme?

Edit: PS OLB is just the title. I'm talking about responsibility that the LBs would have. And I'm trying to keep Woodyard out of the middle of the defense.

Broncos run a 4-3 Under in base, and a 4-2 in Nickel.

DBroncos4life · 05-01-2013, 03:08 PM

Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 7m

Phillips on the fact that it's been snowing all day: "Snow's nothing new to me. But snowing in May is new to me."
Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 10m

Phillips: "I'm not here to replace Elvis, I'm just here to go out and do what I can do and help us win ball games."

Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m

Phillips on what position he'll play: "If it's going to help us win, I'm playing center."
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Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m

Phillips: "They want me to come in there and get after the quarterback, get some sacks and make some plays."
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Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 12m

Phillips: "It's not about me. It's about the team. They're already a great team without me."
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Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 13m

Shaun Phillips now on @850KOA radio. "They really wanted me to be here because they think I can help them win."

Phillips is saying the right things so far!

peacepipe · 05-01-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 7m

Phillips on the fact that it's been snowing all day: "Snow's nothing new to me. But snowing in May is new to me."
Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 10m

Phillips: "I'm not here to replace Elvis, I'm just here to go out and do what I can do and help us win ball games."

Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m

Phillips on what position he'll play: "If it's going to help us win, I'm playing center."
Expand
Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m

Phillips: "They want me to come in there and get after the quarterback, get some sacks and make some plays."
Expand
Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 12m

Phillips: "It's not about me. It's about the team. They're already a great team without me."
Expand
Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 13m

Shaun Phillips now on @850KOA radio. "They really wanted me to be here because they think I can help them win."

Phillips is saying the right things so far!

That's the best comment of them all.

Swedish Extrovert · 05-01-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

So, they are still $7m under......$3.5m to the draft....that leaves $3.5m for late signings. And that's not even considering...guys like magahee, and Mays who could be cut for additional savings.

So, who else will we sign? Urlacher?

Not at the salary he wants.

Swedish Extrovert · 05-01-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

The problem is when you blitz Von. It makes Woodyard the mike LB. You trust Woodyard as the mike in your scheme?

Edit: PS OLB is just the title. I'm talking about responsibility that the LBs would have. And I'm trying to keep Woodyard out of the middle of the defense.

As a nickel mike... yes I do.

TheReverend · 05-01-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Phillips is saying the right things so far!

He is, but I hated him SO much as a Charger that it's going to take a lot more of the right things. Like some 3rd down stops in September.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 05-01-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swedish Extrovert

As a nickel mike... yes I do.

Emmmmm. Trav plays Mike in the Nickel package.

Lestat · 05-01-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

He is, but I hated him SO much as a Charger that it's going to take a lot more of the right things. Like some 3rd down stops in September.

once i see him crushing that fool Phyllis all is forgiven.

ZONA · 05-01-2013, 05:16 PM

Well we don't know yet how all the new pieces will fit. Sounds though as if the packages will be varied and the looks will be plenty. I suspect early in the season and early in games we could really see more Ayers and a more conventional base package. As the game goes on, and our offense assaults the other teams D, I think that's when you could see more packages with Phillips in there. Though, if Ayers steps it up early in games and gets some pressure and sacks, you will see him staying in those rush packages later in games more often. He's in a contract year so I think we could see some extra effort and stats to match.

delany · 05-01-2013, 05:29 PM

Its getting Neil Smith after that devestating Jags game all over again.

gyldenlove · 05-01-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

He is, but I hated him SO much as a Charger that it's going to take a lot more of the right things. Like some 3rd down stops in September.

I will love him when he wipes that stupid expression and the ridiculous contract from Joe Flacco's face when we kick the snot out of the ratbirds on national TV.

DBroncos4life · 05-01-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

He is, but I hated him SO much as a Charger that it's going to take a lot more of the right things. Like some 3rd down stops in September.

Didn't he about get in a fight with McDaniels? I think I like him for that

Lestat · 05-01-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Didn't he about get in a fight with McDaniels? I think I like him for that

i believe he told McDaniels he was gonna kick our ass and his too just for fun.

DBroncos4life · 05-01-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i believe he told McDaniels he was gonna kick our ass and his too just for fun.

When is the last time we had a real trash talker?

cutthemdown · 05-01-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

When is the last time we had a real trash talker?

Romo. Maybe he can be our Romo and get under players skin. Do a few cheap shots and maybe spit on someone. You know go Romo on them.

cutthemdown · 05-01-2013, 07:55 PM

The obviously Sharpe out best trash talker of all time.

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04-28-2013, 07:34 PM	#126
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 35,591	Hard to judge SD players over the last 2-3 yrs as the team just had no leadership worth a damn. Norv Turner lets players slack off IMO. Happened with Oakland, happened with SD. He will never be a HC in the NFL again. It's not a great sign a player stopped working hard but IMO impossible to not work hard and make it in Denver right now. If Phillips shows up out of shape he might just find himself cut.

04-28-2013, 07:36 PM	#127
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 35,591	Elway tried to sign Doom it wasn't the Broncos fault other then they decided he wasn't going to be paid 12 mil a yr. Besides now we get to watch Clady stone him opening week while our offense chews the Ravens to pieces. They simply do not have enough to guard Decker, DT, Welker, Manning.

04-28-2013, 07:37 PM	#128
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun Lets go Broncos! Time to believe! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gensis Planet Posts: 5,598 Adopt-a-Bronco: C.J. Anderson	The 3-4 look Broncos would look like this? L.DE: Wolfe Nose: Vickerson R.DE: S. Williams L.OLB: Von Miller L.ILB: Irving R.ILB: Phillips R.OLB: Woodyard ?

04-29-2013, 12:13 AM	#134
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Bacon bits Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 28,229 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	Phillips already tweeted that he is excited to be playing for the "good guys". He claims he likes to trash talk to trash talk. Hopefully he is motivated and becomes a Romo like figure for our D.

05-01-2013, 03:08 PM	#136
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Bacon bits Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 28,229 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 7m Phillips on the fact that it's been snowing all day: "Snow's nothing new to me. But snowing in May is new to me." Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 10m Phillips: "I'm not here to replace Elvis, I'm just here to go out and do what I can do and help us win ball games." Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m Phillips on what position he'll play: "If it's going to help us win, I'm playing center." Expand Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 11m Phillips: "They want me to come in there and get after the quarterback, get some sacks and make some plays." Expand Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 12m Phillips: "It's not about me. It's about the team. They're already a great team without me." Expand Gray Caldwell Gray Caldwell ‏@GrayCaldwell 13m Shaun Phillips now on @850KOA radio. "They really wanted me to be here because they think I can help them win." Phillips is saying the right things so far!

05-01-2013, 05:16 PM	#143
ZONA Ring of Famer Fun at the range MAR 2014 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,250 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Well we don't know yet how all the new pieces will fit. Sounds though as if the packages will be varied and the looks will be plenty. I suspect early in the season and early in games we could really see more Ayers and a more conventional base package. As the game goes on, and our offense assaults the other teams D, I think that's when you could see more packages with Phillips in there. Though, if Ayers steps it up early in games and gets some pressure and sacks, you will see him staying in those rush packages later in games more often. He's in a contract year so I think we could see some extra effort and stats to match.

05-01-2013, 05:29 PM	#144
delany Uber Bronco Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 933	Its getting Neil Smith after that devestating Jags game all over again.

05-01-2013, 07:55 PM	#150
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 35,591	The obviously Sharpe out best trash talker of all time.