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Old 04-26-2013, 09:14 AM   #26
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Bob McGinn from Milwaukee Journal.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/top-d...204028711.html

5. SYLVESTER WILLIAMS, North Carolina (6-2½, 311, 5.01, 1-2) - Grew up in a tough section of St. Louis, then played his one and only year of high school ball in Jefferson City, Mo. Worked for a year before sustaining his career in junior college. Started all 25 games at weak-side DT for Tar Heels. "The most solid D-lineman that has no chance of busting, solid as a rock, is Sylvester Williams," one scout said. Goes by "Sly." Registered 96 tackles (20½ for loss) and 8½ sacks. "I wouldn't take him in the first round," another scout said. "He is a pretty solid player. I got him in the third (round). He might be a nose. He can be (stout). He was probably 330 last year but lost a bunch of weight because they changed schemes." Led D-tackles in Wonderlic score (25) and hand size (10¾). "I just don't think he's very good," a third scout said. "I'm shocked at all this (attention) he's getting. Absolutely shocked. He's non-instinctive. Just doesn't make any plays. Doesn't play strong. Hopefully, he will go ahead of us. His off-the-field is great. They love him. Works hard. Worked out good. All that."
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:18 AM   #27
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Here's the deal people, sorry I have to be the one to point this out but oh well: If the Broncos would have traded down and the Pats would have taken Williams, everyone one and their grandmother would be singing the praises of the Pats and pointing out how they got the steal of the first round yadda, yadda, yadda. But the Broncos get Williams and don't trade down and everyone is like "well, that is a lot of picks, think I'll cry now."
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:23 AM   #28
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What's this with everyone saying he swims too much? I didn't think black people knew how to swim.
i shouldn't find this hilarious but i do
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:26 AM   #29
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I'm good with this move. I just remember the fits that Jax used to cause with their front 7 and figure JDR sees something in the kid. Sly is strong, quick, competitive, and somewhat raw. Let's do this thing.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:27 AM   #30
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Let me be clear, I'm not criticizing this pick. I'm just saying that when you know nothing about a player you hate seeing multiple scouts, who know considerably more than I do, with these negative opinions. I'm going to trust Elway/Fox/JDR know what they're doing.
Its the 28th pick in a a draft where the 1st overall was a tackle from Central Michigan and the top three pass rushers selected had like a combined 14 sacks between them.

What do you expect exactly? Also, should i pull up those reports about Von Miller being compared to Gholston? Cause those existed too. Watch tape on him. He def. has ability.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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Doesn't make any plays? he has almost as many career sacks as Sheldon Richardson and Shariff Floyd put together, he had more tackles for loss last year than Floyd or Richardson
Does this include his JC numbers?
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Does this include his JC numbers?
FWIW, Sylvester had 6 sacks last season (and played some of the season on a bum ankle), Richardson had i think 4 and Floyd had 3.5
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:27 AM   #33
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You forgot Alfred Williams:

"Worst player ever. A magnet to offensive linemen. Whaah-whaaah, b****, moan, cry".



I like the selection in terms of draft value. I had him going 18 to Dallas. I'm a big fan of this new regime, they like D-linemen. I think we'll fatten Williams back up to 330, and it will be interesting to see whom starts at DT for us.
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You forgot Alfred Williams:

"Worst player ever. A magnet to offensive linemen. Whaah-whaaah, b****, moan, cry".



I like the selection in terms of draft value. I had him going 18 to Dallas. I'm a big fan of this new regime, they like D-linemen. I think we'll fatten Williams back up to 330, and it will be interesting to see whom starts at DT for us.
that dude is the worst draft evaluator i've ever seen. every time he speaks about the draft i get a headache.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:14 PM   #35
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So, he is pretty unanimously in the 15-25 range by almost everyone. A couple random scouts say they don't love him, and it is disheartening? I bet you could find a negative comment about every single player drafted.
how much of that is predraft disinformation, who knows? why people take that scout talk at face value right before the draft is kind of For all we know it was a Denver scout floating that out there hoping he'd fall to 28.

I haven't seen 1 bad thing written or said about the pick by people who are paid to analyze this stuff. I'm stoked about the pick.
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Does this include his JC numbers?
Nopes, those are only the 2 years he was UNC. JC numbers are irrelevant and worthless and I would never bother to even look them up.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:45 PM   #37
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Well, he didn't drop out of high school. NC beat writer is on the radio saying he had family troubles, went to work after HS, wanted to improve himself, so took the bull by the horns and did just that.

Interesting note, his UNC Head Coach was on the radio, said Coffeyville JC didn't even WANT him but he went there anyway, and you see the results. The beat writer is saying he was 360 when he got to Coffeyville in the spring, got down to 299 to make the team.

So he's a determined, confident guy with a drive to improve himself, gotta love it. High IQ guy, good character, impressed the heck out of everybody at Dove Valley.
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how much of that is predraft disinformation, who knows? why people take that scout talk at face value right before the draft is kind of For all we know it was a Denver scout floating that out there hoping he'd fall to 28.

I haven't seen 1 bad thing written or said about the pick by people who are paid to analyze this stuff. I'm stoked about the pick.
The scout's quotes from the McGinn need to be taken with a grain of salt -- it's pretty clear that he lets scout mis-information at times (which is fine, because he always gets the scoop on the Wonderlic scores in return).
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No Alfred Williams break down?
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:05 AM   #40
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yeah that sucked!
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:18 AM   #41
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I listened to about 5 minutes of Alfred today and it didn't take him long to say he played DT for the broncos and his last name is Williams so he knew more than everyone and the broncos whiffed on the pick.. Then I turned the station, give it a year then call him a bust it's not like they reached on a unproductive player.
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