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Old 04-19-2013, 06:06 PM   #101
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At what point did MSNBC say it was a right-winger/teabagger.
they implied it.....

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:10 PM   #102
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It turns out that all day, he was on a MF-in' boat!

I wonder what he was thinking the end game was going to be.

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Nice try,but pointing out flaws in our gun laws doesn't imply anything in this situation.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:18 PM   #104
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Report: 3 arrested in New Bedford in connection to bombing suspect
Posted: Apr 19, 2013 4:57 PM PDT
Updated: Apr 19, 2013 5:14 PM PDT
By Dee DeQuattro - bio | email

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Neighbors say three have been arrested in New Bedford in connection with the Boston Bombing suspect.

Police apprehended suspects from the Hidden Brook Apartments on Carriage Drive in New Bedford. Neighbors say they think that the girlfriend of 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev may have lived in the complex and they have seen him in the area as recently as yesterday.

Dzhokhar is a student at the nearby University of Massachusetts Dartmouth. Earlier on Friday his brother, also a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing, was killed in a gun fight with police.





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Old 04-19-2013, 06:25 PM   #105
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Tamerlan Tsarnaev

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:26 PM   #106
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Nice try,but pointing out flaws in our gun laws doesn't imply anything in this situation.
then why mention them at all when reporting on this incident?
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:28 PM   #107
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Now he's a good terrorist......
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:37 PM   #108
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:37 PM   #109
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Looks like he had a thoracotomy. It's a little low for a resuscitation attempt but it looks almost like an intentional incision.
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Here ya go peacepipe....


CNN's PETER BERGEN on who he thinks might be responsible - Sure. Although I'm reminded of Oklahoma City which was a bombing, which was initially treated as a gas explosion. So first reports are often erroneous. But the fact that there were two explosions – two bombings – one of the things I'd be looking at is once the device, if it is a device, is found, what kind of explosives were used? For instance, if it was hydrogen peroxide, this is a signature of al-Qaeda. If it was more conventional explosives, which are much harder to get a hold of now, that might be some other kind of right-wing extremists. We've seen a number of failed bombing attempts by al-Qaeda using bombs, (Unintelligible) and for instance, the Manhattan subway in 2009, Faisal Shahzad in 2010, the attempt to bring down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit in 2009. But we've also seen other extremist groups, right-wing groups, for instance, trying to attack the Martin Luther King parade in Oregon in 2010.


amazingly he doesn't say **** about how it could have been some left-wing radicals who did this ala like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn who bombed police stations and the Pentagon.
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CNN's PETER BERGEN on who he thinks might be responsible - Sure. Although I'm reminded of Oklahoma City which was a bombing, which was initially treated as a gas explosion. So first reports are often erroneous. But the fact that there were two explosions two bombings one of the things I'd be looking at is once the device, if it is a device, is found, what kind of explosives were used? For instance, if it was hydrogen peroxide, this is a signature of al-Qaeda. If it was more conventional explosives, which are much harder to get a hold of now, that might be some other kind of right-wing extremists. We've seen a number of failed bombing attempts by al-Qaeda using bombs, (Unintelligible) and for instance, the Manhattan subway in 2009, Faisal Shahzad in 2010, the attempt to bring down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit in 2009. But we've also seen other extremist groups, right-wing groups, for instance, trying to attack the Martin Luther King parade in Oregon in 2010.


amazingly he doesn't say **** about how it could have been some left-wing radicals who did this ala like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn who bombed police stations and the Pentagon.
You're desperate,really desperate if you have to go back 4 decades for a "lib" terrorist.

Secondly,I never defended CNN. Don't even watch it. I haven't watched CNN since they had that show crossfire.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:09 PM   #112
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Brb ducking into McDonalds to avoid prison.
They should have gone into a church and asked for sanctuary!

I would gladly open my door and allow the police to search my property if some nut job was a threat to my community.

Not sure what people are so worried about or trying to defend.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:42 PM   #113
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That kid isn't going to cooperate and give them shyt
After they shove fiber glass up his dick hole, he'll sing like baja at the Mexican border.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:48 PM   #114
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Despite being a US citizen, authorities are refusing to read the suspect his Miranda right in fear he will demand a lawyer.

Hmmm

This is obviously an extreme situation, and an attack derived from what could be a home terrorist orginization, so in all a matter of national security. However, denying this kid his rights as a US citizen is sketchy territory. He deliberately attacked innocent people, but that doesn't make him any less American according to the law, so it poses a very dense question 'is this the right thing to do?'.
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Despite being a US citizen, authorities are refusing to read the suspect his Miranda right in fear he will demand a lawyer.

Hmmm

This is obviously an extreme situation, and an attack derived from what could be a home terrorist orginization, so in all a matter of national security. However, denying this kid his rights as a US citizen is sketchy territory. He deliberately attacked innocent people, but that doesn't make him any less American according to the law, so it poses a very dense question 'is this the right thing to do?'.
He'll get read his rights,this going through a civilian court. They are not going to risk losing on Miranda .
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He'll get read his rights,this going through a civilian court. They are not going to risk losing on Miranda .
Yes, but don't they have to read you your rights before you are taken into custody?

It seems from the article that I read, that he is being held as an enemy combatant, and is therefore subject to unempeded interrogation.

What worrys me is, what defines an enemy combatant? If you are a precived threat as inclined by the the state, are they free to detain you without due process?

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Yes, but don't they have to read you your rights before you are taken into custody?
Irks the hell out of me that they aren't.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:13 PM   #118
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Yes, but don't they have to read you your rights before you are taken into custody?

It seems from the article that I read, that he is being held as an enemy combatant, and is therefore subject to unempeded interrogation.

What worrys me is, what defines an enemy combatant? If you are a precived threat as inclined by the the state, are they free to detain you without due process?
It should worry everyone.
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Despite being a US citizen, authorities are refusing to read the suspect his Miranda right in fear he will demand a lawyer.

Hmmm

This is obviously an extreme situation, and an attack derived from what could be a home terrorist orginization, so in all a matter of national security. However, denying this kid his rights as a US citizen is sketchy territory. He deliberately attacked innocent people, but that doesn't make him any less American according to the law, so it poses a very dense question 'is this the right thing to do?'.
He's also supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. This is very disturbing.
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Yes, but don't they have to read you your rights before you are taken into custody?

It seems from the article that I read, that he is being held as an enemy combatant, and is therefore subject to unempeded interrogation.

What worrys me is, what defines an enemy combatant? If you are a precived threat as inclined by the the state, are they free to detain you without due process?
You don't get read your rights before taken into custody. You're in custody as soon as the cuffs go on. They read you the rights so you know anything they prompt out of you (if you spew it willingly, Miranda doesn't necessarily come into play) can be used against you in court.

As I understand it, they're holding off on the Miranda reading for the time being so they can try to force him to talk about any more explosives or existing threats. Those aren't things that would necessarily be part of the prosecution so they risk nothing by not reading him beforehand. Once they deem him no longer a threat, though, they'd have to read before they could start asking him questions and trying to get a confession about the actual bombings and whatnot.

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He's also supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. This is very disturbing.
But if they ask him questions and anything is said that incriminates him, they risk it being thrown out in court. Many cases have been thrown out for such procedural issues. It's not like they're walking the guy straight to the gallows, here. Reading the Miranda rights have no bearing on anything until his court date when they consider the admissibility of evidence and statements.
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But if they ask him questions and anything is said that incriminates him, they risk it being thrown out in court. Many cases have been thrown out for such procedural issues. It's not like they're walking the guy straight to the gallows, here. Reading the Miranda rights have no bearing on anything until his court date when they consider the admissibility of evidence and statements.
They risk it being thrown out in court if they don't read him his rights. Which is why this makes no sense. They should read him his rights and provide him a lawyer if he asks for one just like any other suspected criminal. The nature of the crime shouldn't change that.
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gonna be great when they torture a USA citizen for information and no one complains about it
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They ask permission. This is a non issue.
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