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Old 03-27-2013, 03:35 PM   #201
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I could live with that! But I also want Kiko Alonzo so bad in the 2nd.
I hate to break it too you but, we won't need him after T'eo is drafted in the first round

What I don't understand is how some one can pretty much Peterson return from this...

and people still question him. The guy is going to be ready to play and ready to prove to teams that passed him that he is a stud.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:40 PM   #202
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Barry Sanders could switch directions and be at full speed within a second or two.

There hasn't been or will be a back like him. Some may come close, but no one is sanders.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:20 PM   #203
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I understand what you are saying and you think Lacy will be a special RB which is fine, all I'm saying is I'm not so sure he will be but he looks to have some good skills. My point about Trufant is that it's just much harder to find a good CB than it is a good RB. I like Trufant because he's disiplined, he too has a proven record in college as I think he played 3 years, he's got speed, he has decent size too and yes, he may very well be sitting at there when the Broncos pick at 28, which is fantastic. In mock drafts I've seen Trufant go as high as in the teens and as low as 30 in the first round.
If Trufant is there at 28 he would be a very good selection. Florida State has 2 DEs that I think would be great in Denver Tank Carradine is a good replacement pass rusher for Doom. Bjoern Werner is probably more qualified to play for the Broncos as he is white, and a tough guy against the run. I wouldn't mind either.

If Kenny Vaccaro somehow fell that far Denver would have to take him.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:31 PM   #204
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Marcus Lattimore - RB - PlayerSouth Carolina RB Marcus Lattimore (knee surgeries) worked out for reps from all 32 teams on Wednesday, and the room "burst into applause when he was done."It would appear the reports of Lattimore's miraculous recovery have not been exaggerated. He's still in a race against time to be ready for Week 1, but has "no doubt" he'll be ready some time in the first half of the season. Lattimore will be one of the more vexing conundrums for teams in April's draft. He's far from a lock to go before day three.

Just get him in the 2nd.
Well if he's that far along it does change things. I didn't realize he was this close to being back to 100%. If that's the case, where at some point during the 1st half of the season you think he's going to be ready, then that would change my opinion on the draft. You could probably get him late 2nd early 3rd. If the Broncos could trade down in the 1st and pick up that late 2nd pick, which would give us 2 pics there, I would go with Lattimore with one of those 2nd rounders and get maybe a nice DT, DE or S with the other 2nd. BUT, that's if he really is that close and could contribute early to mid season. If he's not going to be fully ready to late in the year then I would not draft him sooner then mid to late 3rd round.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:28 PM   #205
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I hate to break it too you but, we won't need him after T'eo is drafted in the first round

What I don't understand is how some one can pretty much Peterson return from this...

and people still question him. The guy is going to be ready to play and ready to prove to teams that passed him that he is a stud.
He is the definition of beast!
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:22 AM   #206
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Does anyone have any thought on Brandon Jenkins? He looks like a much more athletic pass rusher than Carradine. I have been looking at Carradine's tape and he looks incredibly rigid, almost Lurch-like when he moves, quite a lot of the big plays he makes he gets on 2nd efforts rather than on his first move. Carradine is definitely a solid base end, but I am not sure his pass rush production will translate unless he develops some serious power moves. Jenkins is smaller and faster and comes off the snap really quickly, but he looks like he relies a ton of the outside speed rush and doesn't seem to have an effective counter move or a swim move or anything to go inside, I have seen a few spins, but that is a very dangerous move to go to since you lose sight of the ball.

Has anyone been scouting Jenkins?
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:31 AM   #207
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WHat about in the 5th round Denver selects Denard Robinson, KR, Michigan and then puts him in the slot behind Welker to learn everything thing Welker does. Robinson has all the tools to be an awesome slot, find the openings and then turn short passes into long gains.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:32 AM   #208
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If the Broncos select DJ Hayden with their first pick. . .

Not only will I flip out more than I did last year, I will probably end my life.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:36 AM   #209
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didn't the broncos just draft a "high ceiling, potential great but injured" corner last year in bolden?
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:44 AM   #210
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Same Kiper draft...


58. Denver Broncos
Damontre Moore *, DE, Texas A&M
He's fallen during the postseason evaluation process, but was extremly productive.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:01 AM   #211
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Same Kiper draft...


58. Denver Broncos
Damontre Moore *, DE, Texas A&M
He's fallen during the postseason evaluation process, but was extremly productive.
steal at 58...that'd be crazy if he fell that far. A month ago he was top 5
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:07 AM   #212
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Does anyone have any thought on Brandon Jenkins? He looks like a much more athletic pass rusher than Carradine. I have been looking at Carradine's tape and he looks incredibly rigid, almost Lurch-like when he moves, quite a lot of the big plays he makes he gets on 2nd efforts rather than on his first move. Carradine is definitely a solid base end, but I am not sure his pass rush production will translate unless he develops some serious power moves. Jenkins is smaller and faster and comes off the snap really quickly, but he looks like he relies a ton of the outside speed rush and doesn't seem to have an effective counter move or a swim move or anything to go inside, I have seen a few spins, but that is a very dangerous move to go to since you lose sight of the ball.

Has anyone been scouting Jenkins?
I posted (I think in another thread) that I liked Jenkins as well... After watching the tape, I agree with you that Carradine has some limitations. I guess Jenkins is still not healed from his foot injury so taking him is going to involve some risk that he won't come all the way back but if he's available in the 4th round, I'd pick him up no doubt.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:14 AM   #213
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steal at 58...that'd be crazy if he fell that far. A month ago he was top 5
Damontre Moore had the WORST offseason I have seen in awhile, not taking into account Tyrann Mathieu's ridiculous trip to wonderland. He proved to GM's his lack of taking football seriously and therefore NOT getting a huge contract.

That being said, a lot of the talk about him dropping down boards is true. However, it only takes one team to stop his free fall and he has a ton of talent. Talent does NOT make a good NFL player, it is just the price of admission. And, most of the uber talented guys struggle when they have to mentally prepare and work hard for the first time at this level.

I sincerely doubt he falls to 58, but I have seen weirder things in the draft and these guys have more details on his work ethic than I do.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:16 AM   #214
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steal at 58...that'd be crazy if he fell that far. A month ago he was top 5
Also has Werner, Tank and Datone Jones taken in the early second. Lots of uncertainty this year. How do the Broncos pass on Werner? Dude was top 15 going into the offseason.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:41 AM   #215
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Damontre Moore had the WORST offseason I have seen in awhile, not taking into account Tyrann Mathieu's ridiculous trip to wonderland. He proved to GM's his lack of taking football seriously and therefore NOT getting a huge contract.

That being said, a lot of the talk about him dropping down boards is true. However, it only takes one team to stop his free fall and he has a ton of talent. Talent does NOT make a good NFL player, it is just the price of admission. And, most of the uber talented guys struggle when they have to mentally prepare and work hard for the first time at this level.

I sincerely doubt he falls to 58, but I have seen weirder things in the draft and these guys have more details on his work ethic than I do.
Do you not remember Burficts off-season last year??
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:57 AM   #216
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Do you not remember Burficts off-season last year??
True, but he was never a top 10 kind of guy. I should have qualified that. There have been plenty of poor offseasons for lesser prospects, and Burfict sure played well this year for CIN. The question is for how long
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:13 AM   #217
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Do you not remember Burficts off-season last year??
Until when? Hes one step from pulling a Chris Henry.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:30 AM   #218
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I loved Jonathan Cyprien in the 2nd round, but Drunken was right he won't be there ... in fact he's blowing up so fast in mocks now, many have him going before #28 ... just two weeks ago he was a consensus late 2nd/early 3rd.

I'm not as high on Jonathan Hankins anymore now that we signed Knighton, who's just 26 I'll stick with Trufant ... or Datone Jones if he last that long, which he won't.

Desmond Trufant and Damontre Moore 1-2 would rock the house
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:02 AM   #219
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58. Denver Broncos
Damontre Moore *, DE, Texas A&M
He's fallen during the postseason evaluation process, but was extremly productive.
If we can get him in the second that would be awesome! But I doubt it though. I would rather get him in the 1st. I don't think we will get that CB from Houston because I think Denver wants bigger CB's if they do get one. However, I still want Cyrien or Eric Reid at safety and RB in the third.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:34 AM   #220
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Damontre Moore had the WORST offseason I have seen in awhile, not taking into account Tyrann Mathieu's ridiculous trip to wonderland. He proved to GM's his lack of taking football seriously and therefore NOT getting a huge contract.

That being said, a lot of the talk about him dropping down boards is true. However, it only takes one team to stop his free fall and he has a ton of talent. Talent does NOT make a good NFL player, it is just the price of admission. And, most of the uber talented guys struggle when they have to mentally prepare and work hard for the first time at this level.

I sincerely doubt he falls to 58, but I have seen weirder things in the draft and these guys have more details on his work ethic than I do.

I agree. My initial reaction after the Combine was early 2nd round. It was so catastrophic, but his tape is so good. Same with Jarvis Jones. I just can't drop these guys out of the 1st Round, hell, I can't even drop them out of the first 15-20 selections now. Once the handful of elite players go, these two just stare you in the face so hard. And that tape and production is so tasty.

Moore apparently is going to try and do another workout before the draft. We'll see how that goes. At least he's trying I guess.
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I loved Jonathan Cyprien in the 2nd round, but Drunken was right he won't be there ... in fact he's blowing up so fast in mocks now, many have him going before #28 ... just two weeks ago he was a consensus late 2nd/early 3rd.

I'm not as high on Jonathan Hankins anymore now that we signed Knighton, who's just 26 I'll stick with Trufant ... or Datone Jones if he last that long, which he won't.

Desmond Trufant and Damontre Moore 1-2 would rock the house
That would be a mike Tyson 1-2 punch. Would be incredible. It's getting that time where it gets interesting and people are rising and falling all over the place. I'm surprised Hayden is jumping so high
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If we can get him in the second that would be awesome! But I doubt it though. I would rather get him in the 1st. I don't think we will get that CB from Houston because I think Denver wants bigger CB's if they do get one. However, I still want Cyrien or Eric Reid at safety and RB in the third.
I think Cyprien and Reid are getting more and more likley as options in the 1st Round. I'm not sure Reid makes it anymore, but Cyprien should be there.

My only hangup is that Elway and Fox have the philosophy that they want their 1st Round selection to be an instant starter and contribute heavily. I'm not sure a Safety can do that. We did just pick up Mike Adams' roster bonus, and he was quite good for us last season.

The only guys I can see that can come in and start Day 1, would be a MLB or a RB. So, I highly expect us to go that route.

Safety is my wildcard though. I could see an elite talent moving Adams to the bench.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:46 AM   #223
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If the Broncos got Trufant in the first round you can bet no way Bailey would make 9-10 mil a yr next yr. Broncos would want relief or GASP! he could even be cut.
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My latest Broncos draft board. Follow plan "a" throughout, or follow plan "b" thoughout. If all else fails, pick the best player available from plan "x".

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1 a	Damontre Moore			DE
1 a	Cornelius Carradine		DE
1 b	Manti Te'o			ILB
1 x	DJ Hayden (courtesy of Kiper)	CB
				
2 a	Sio Moore			ILB
2 b	Jamie Collins			DE
2 b	John Simon			DE
2 x	Johnathan Franklin		RB
2 x	Jon Bostic			ILB
				
3 a, b	Le'Veon Bell			RB
3 a, b	Christine Michael		RB
3 a, b	TJ McDonald			SS
3 x	Ryan Swope			WR
				
4 a, b	Chris Harper			WR
				
5 a, b	Kwame Geathers			NT
5 x	Eric Martin (courtesy of MUG)	OLB
				
7 a, b	Brett Maher			K
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1. Damontre Moore DE (or Carradine DE)
2. Sio Moore LB (Broncos visit)
3. Christine Michael RB (reported Broncos interest, save $5M by cutting McGahee)
4. TJ McDonald SS (Broncos visit)
5. Kwame Geathers NT (Broncos visit)
7. Brett Maher K (save $5M by cutting Prater)

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Damontre Moore's Pro Day was good. I'm glad Kiper is low-balling him. Moore flat out produces and is only 20 years old.
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