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Old 04-03-2013, 01:46 PM   #101
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The thought is molded by the individuals beliefs of reality.
And the final arbiter is what? One's beliefs, or reality?
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:58 PM   #102
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The thought is molded by the individuals beliefs of reality.
I don't think our existence has much of an effect on the real world, regardless of what we think. It is what it is, whether we are here or not. When a man dies does the world change? Only his perception of it. And for those who knew him. So reality remains as it is. I once heard an old mahatma say, "People like to say that time changes. Time says that's it's the people who come and go. Not him. He's always here." The universe has been here for billions of years and will be here billions of years after we're gone.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:02 PM   #103
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The beliefs are molded by the external influence.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:44 PM   #104
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This thread is the perfect example of why nothing ever gets fixed until people are forced to address the problem.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:52 PM   #105
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This thread is the perfect example of why nothing ever gets fixed until people are forced to address the problem.
errand thinks it's all a Marxist plot.

cutthemdown wants to let the Chinese run the planet.

Obushma is a turd.

baja thinks it's all the fault of the reptilians.

IHaveALight is off in new-agey la-la land.

Meanwhile, the planet is cooking.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:06 PM   #106
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errand thinks it's all a Marxist plot.

cutthemdown wants to let the Chinese run the planet.

Obushma is a turd.

baja thinks it's all the fault of the reptilians.

IHaveALight is off in new-agey la-la land.

Meanwhile, the planet is cooking.
I want everybody in the first world countries to work hard at educating the third world (especially the women) so that we can seriously begin to lower global population. I think that's the best long-term fix.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:21 PM   #107
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errand thinks it's all a Marxist plot.
Really? where did I say it was a Marxist plot?

I said those who are claiming it don't know a damn thing and only want our government to fund their ****ed up research.......but feel free to spout lies like you always do.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:27 PM   #108
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Global warming does not mean it's hot everywhere all the time and every year is warmer than the previous year.

Obviously you've learned all you know about the science from Faux News and Rush.
Then that means it's not "global" now doesn't it?

your claiming this means you don't know what the **** you're talking about....you're like the scientist who said "This is the male seahorse....." and then when his assistant points out that the seahorse is having a baby seahorse, he claims "Oh, well the male seahorse has the babies...." just to make himself seem like he's smarter than everyone else, when the truth is he's too stupid to know he's just a stubborn jackass
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:09 PM   #109
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I want everybody in the first world countries to work hard at educating the third world (especially the women) so that we can seriously begin to lower global population. I think that's the best long-term fix.
You could start by removing the CIA boot from their neck.

Then you could shut down most of the 700+ US military bases worldwide and bring the troops home.

Then you could effect regime change here at home -- though it might take a revolution.

These would be the best moves you could make. BTW it also wouldn't hurt to drop your elitist attitudes.

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Gaff calling someone elitist.....lol.
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Then that means it's not "global" now doesn't it?


Wow, lovely display of your complete ignorance of the basic science of climate and weather nutjob.

Why do you types think that ignorance is equivalent to actual knowledge? Why do you think your complete lack of understanding of even the basics of climatology empowers you to 'refute it'?

For ****'s sake, try the intellectually honest route of at least attempting to learn about the topic before wading in.

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your claiming this means you don't know what the **** you're talking about....you're like the scientist who said "This is the male seahorse....." and then when his assistant points out that the seahorse is having a baby seahorse, he claims "Oh, well the male seahorse has the babies...." just to make himself seem like he's smarter than everyone else, when the truth is he's too stupid to know he's just a stubborn jackass
Nice projection there nutter.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:56 AM   #112
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You could start by removing the CIA boot from their neck.

Then you could shut down most of the 700+ US military bases worldwide and bring the troops home.

Then you could effect regime change here at home -- though it might take a revolution.

These would be the best moves you could make. BTW it also wouldn't hurt to drop your elitist attitudes.

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It's "elitist" to want to bring education to the world and equality to women?

Back in the bunker, der Gaffo.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:04 AM   #113
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Then that means it's not "global" now doesn't it?
Do you know the difference between "warming" and "warm"?

Find me a reference in a peer-reviewed journal, with evidence that backs it, that says that global warming means "everywhere is hot and temperatures are always increasing". Just one.

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your claiming this means you don't know what the **** you're talking about....
That's your problem, not mine.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:07 AM   #114
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IHaveALight is off in new-agey la-la land.

Meanwhile, the planet is cooking.
You can call it whatever you like, but remove the conditioning and you will see it plane as day.

Again, if global warming is strictly caused by mans green house gas production and the elites of the world know all about it and how dire of a situation we are in then why aren't they acting right now? These people have the power. They tell us that global warming is coming, that it is a dire issue and that it is caused by our green house gas production. Yet they have the power, resources, technology and anything else they need to put the action into place to start converting the world to clean energy. But they are not doing a damn thing about it. It's right in front of you. My speculation is that climate change is real, man most definitely plays a role, there is a lot more information about the full spectrom of what is happening to the climate on this planet that they are keeping from us and they are going to use global warming and drought to their advantage to further control the human consciousness.

The evidence is everywhere, everything is backwards from progress. Why do you think it's called congress?

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Old 04-04-2013, 07:20 AM   #115
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You can call it whatever you like, but remove the conditioning and you will see it plane as day.

Again, if global warming is strictly caused by mans green house gas production
Not true, but moving on...

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and the elites of the world know all about it and how dire of a situation we are in then why aren't they acting right now? These people have the power. They tell us that global warming is coming, that it is a dire issue and that it is caused by our green house gas production. Yet they have the power, resources, technology and anything else they need to put the action into place to start converting the world to clean energy. But they are not doing a damn thing about it. It's right in front of you. My speculation is that climate change is real, man most definitely plays a role, there is a lot more information about the full spectrom of what is happening to the climate on this planet that they are keeping from us and they are going to use global warming and drought as a weapon to further control the human consciousness.
Yep, new-age-y la la land with a dose of conspiracism, paranoia, passivism, fatalism...
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:07 AM   #116
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I hope some of you all realize how anthropogenic global warming has a lot more to do with things just getting "warmer." For Christ sakes. . . ever think about its impacts on sustainability and resources?
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I hope some of you all realize how anthropogenic global warming has a lot more to do with things just getting "warmer." For Christ sakes. . . ever think about its impacts on sustainability and resources?
Yep. There's lots more going on than just land surface warming.

They won't accept even that small part.
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What about Nukes Wags? Do you worry about those for your children?

I'd say a battle for the holy land will result in some nukes getting tossed around. Much greater threat then needing some sun block, a flood, or turning your AC down a couple degrees.
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What about Nukes Wags? Do you worry about those for your children?

I'd say a battle for the holy land will result in some nukes getting tossed around. Much greater threat then needing some sun block, a flood, or turning your AC down a couple degrees.
Deflection isn't your strong point.

Do you have kids?
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Deflection isn't your strong point.

Do you have kids?
Says the guy who won't comment on nuclear weapons and the capability of crazy nations to destroy the world several times over.

No kids. 38 years old. I don't feel the need to breed for the sake of breeding. That's another issue greater than global warming. Got married last year to a younger gal who is no rush either.
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Says the guy who won't comment on nuclear weapons and the capability of crazy nations to destroy the world several times over.
You tried to change the subject, and failed.

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No kids. 38 years old. I don't feel the need to breed for the sake of breeding. That's another issue greater than global warming. Got married last year to a younger gal who is no rush either.
Since you have no kids, and no apparent intention to have any, you're willing to **** the future for the present. Right?
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You tried to change the subject, and failed.



Since you have no kids, and no apparent intention to have any, you're willing to **** the future for the present. Right?
I said I'm in no rush. I traded in my older girlfriend for a much nicer, better running, younger model. The old one was starting to make clunking sounds.


I think CHOOSING to not have kids is actually more responsible then people just having kids because they can. Sticking one's pecker in a female and getting her pregnant does not make someone more responsible to Mother Earth.

Besides the world is pressed for resources as it is. You breeders are part of the problem.

Come W*gs. Welfare/food stamps is at an all time high. It's the government that is taking care of more and more of them now. You know that.

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It's "elitist" to want to bring education to the world and equality to women?

Back in the bunker, der Gaffo.
The West has been raping the Third World for centuries --

You should start educating right here at home. A nation run by psychopaths in no position to lift up others.
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Since we are running out of resources people who don't have kids are doing more for the future and global warming then people with kids.

Hell what is the carbon footprint of a kid? Since we have plenty of people the best thing you can do for the future of the Earth is stop having little brats who will just spew co2 and suck up water, food, and resources.
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The West has been raping the Third World for centuries --

You should start educating right here at home. A nation run by psychopaths in no position to lift up others.
I'm sure you would prefer a world filled with ignorance and superstition. Then you could sell more books.
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