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Old 04-01-2013, 09:26 PM   #1601
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The Chiefs have made their last selection of the draft:

1.1.1 Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M - Solid tackle for a decade
1.19.19 Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri - Top Talent Tackle with great versatility
3.12.74 Darius Slay, CB Mississippi State - Tall physically talented corner
3.34.96 Vance McDonald, TE Rice - Tall Red Zone Threat with Great hands
5.3.136 Landy Jones, QB Oklahoma - Solid backup with the ability to win games if needed
6.36.204 Corey Fuller, WR Virginia Tech - Fast, athletic Receiver with good upside
I really like how you selected stud daddies on the offensive and defensive lines -- that alone makes this draft an A. I also like the McDonald and Landry Jones picks, but Slay and Fuller are just meh for me. Not terrible, just meh.

You're not done yet, though -- we've got the UDFA round coming up, and you've got a chance to bump your draft grade to an A+ if you steal a few of my deep sleepers....
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:35 PM   #1602
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I really like how you selected stud daddies on the offensive and defensive lines -- that alone makes this draft an A. I also like the McDonald and Landry Jones picks, but Slay and Fuller are just meh for me. Not terrible, just meh.

You're not done yet, though -- we've got the UDFA round coming up, and you've got a chance to bump your draft grade to an A+ if you steal a few of my deep sleepers....
diss all you want. the chiefs needed ot, dt/de, cb, wr, & te playmakers. wr and backup qb are the only guys that I drafted that won't see good playing time if the chiefs really drafted this way. my only regret is not picking up an ilb
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Zac Stacy is a brilliant selection this late. He was my highest rated player. I could see him going as early as the 4th Round, but more likely the 5th. I like him a lot more than BenJarvis Green-Ellis on my team, and Jonathan Dwyer on Pittsburgh, as well as a great many of the RBs already drafted.
Hey thanks -- I had to choose between he and Ty Powell in the middle of the 6th, and then pray that he'd drop to the end of the 6th for me.

Here's an interesting comparison for you:

Doug Martin / Zac Stacy
3,431 yards on 617 carries (5.56 ypc), 43 touchdowns / 3,143 yards on 581 carries (5.41 ypc), 30 touchdowns
Height: 5' 9" / 5' 8"
Weight: 223 lbs. / 216 lbs.
40-yard dash: 4.55 / 4.55
Short shuttle: 4.16 / 4.17
3-cone drill: 6.79 / 6.70
Vertical jump: 36" / 33"
Broad jump: 10' 00" / 10' 02"
225 lb. Bench press: 28 reps / 27 reps

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diss all you want. the chiefs needed ot, dt/de, cb, wr, & te playmakers. wr and backup qb are the only guys that I drafted that won't see good playing time if the chiefs really drafted this way. my only regret is not picking up an ilb
Diss? I gave you an A grade!

As for the ILB -- there are none in this draft worth reaching for, IMO. Kudos to you for NOT reaching for need and sticking to your board.
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I have finished New Orleans' draft and have to say I'm pretty pleased with it despite the loss of a key 2nd rounder.

1-17 (17): New Orleans - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
3-13 (75): New Orleans - Sio Moore, OLB, UConn
4-12 (109): New Orleans - John Simon, OLB/DE, Ohio State University
5-11 (144): New Orleans - Lavar Edward, DE, LSU
6-15 (183): New Orleans - Hugh Thornton, OG/OT, Illinois
6-24 (192): New Orleans - Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon
6-29 (197): New Orleans - Josh Boyd, DT, Mississippi State

Overall feel like I hit good value and mostly petty good system fits. Lavar Edward might be a stretch into a 5-tech role but I think he's got the potential to gain the weight and fill that role. Simon is probably a better fit for someone willing to let him play full time 4-3 weakside end, but he'd still serve as a nice pass rusher. I think Sio Moore in the 3rd is real good value, like his overall game a lot. Trufant could wind up being a good value where I got him come the draft, or as a back of the first type depending on if he's the 3rd or 4th CB off the board, but I like his fit with the Saints regardless.

Where I really like what I got was in the sixth where I parlayed some earlier picks into a trio of selections to fill out the lack of depth in my draft pool. Feel like I got three guys who could all go a good bit earlier than this. Thornton and Boyd both seem like mid-rounders to me, not sixth round types, while Mellette is a safe bet for the sixth with a real chance to climb if teams buy into what they see in his workouts.

Of the guys I drafted I'd particularly like to see the Broncos land Simon and Boyd, I think both could find very productive roles in short order in Denver.
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Diss? I gave you an A grade!

As for the ILB -- there are none in this draft worth reaching for, IMO. Kudos to you for NOT reaching for need and sticking to your board.
Sorry, was surfing on my phone, definitely didn't see the A.
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Sorry, was surfing on my phone, definitely didn't see the A.
Draft may be an A, but your handling of a compliment fails to the "enth"
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Draft may be an A, but your handling of a compliment fails to the "enth"
Hey -- congrats on stealing the Steelers' 7th round target, CBF1. I don't think he's gonna be real happy going to the Raiders, though....

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Old 04-02-2013, 12:11 PM   #1612
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I have finished New Orleans' draft and have to say I'm pretty pleased with it despite the loss of a key 2nd rounder.

1-17 (17): New Orleans - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
3-13 (75): New Orleans - Sio Moore, OLB, UConn
4-12 (109): New Orleans - John Simon, OLB/DE, Ohio State University
5-11 (144): New Orleans - Lavar Edward, DE, LSU
6-15 (183): New Orleans - Hugh Thornton, OG/OT, Illinois
6-24 (192): New Orleans - Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon
6-29 (197): New Orleans - Josh Boyd, DT, Mississippi State

Overall feel like I hit good value and mostly petty good system fits. Lavar Edward might be a stretch into a 5-tech role but I think he's got the potential to gain the weight and fill that role. Simon is probably a better fit for someone willing to let him play full time 4-3 weakside end, but he'd still serve as a nice pass rusher. I think Sio Moore in the 3rd is real good value, like his overall game a lot. Trufant could wind up being a good value where I got him come the draft, or as a back of the first type depending on if he's the 3rd or 4th CB off the board, but I like his fit with the Saints regardless.

Where I really like what I got was in the sixth where I parlayed some earlier picks into a trio of selections to fill out the lack of depth in my draft pool. Feel like I got three guys who could all go a good bit earlier than this. Thornton and Boyd both seem like mid-rounders to me, not sixth round types, while Mellette is a safe bet for the sixth with a real chance to climb if teams buy into what they see in his workouts.

Of the guys I drafted I'd particularly like to see the Broncos land Simon and Boyd, I think both could find very productive roles in short order in Denver.

It's a solid draft. Would have liked to have seen a Left Tackle and Safety in that mix. Those appear to be massive holes right now for the Saints. You went heavy with the OLBs in the mid rounds, but I'm not certain Moore and Simon are great fits for a 34. Not sure about Edwards as a 5 tech either. I do like all of your 6th round selections though. Trufant in the 1st was decent, if not overly exciting.
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Arkie... Really like the Josh Johnson pick, It came down to him and Mills my last pick and took the safety since I already picked 2 CB's.
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Chris Jones, Bowling Green. I'm not sure he gets drafted. There have been some really productive guys in the MAC on the D-line that don't get drafted. Drew Nowak last season for Western Michigan had 91 Tackles, 21 Stuffs, 9 Sacks, 1 Forced Fumble, and 2 Blocked Kicks. Not drafted. He was more productive than Jones and had better size. It's the 7th, so draft value is always fine at this point, but I thought there were more intriguing guys to take a flier on.


Rontez Miles, California (PA). Small school safety with a ton of accolades. He's not my favorite safety at this point, but he's a solid flier. Teams know about him and he'll likely be drafted, possibly even higher than this. For an Oakland team with hardly any Safeties on the roster, it makes sense to gamble.


Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech. I remember when he was going to be the next big thing, and then he got hurt and pretty much went MIA. I think this is a very solid draft selection. Just have to hope his foot heals completely and he returns to form. My issue is that the Jags took him. I have no idea where he will play since he's far too slow to play OLB. Gus Bradly loves speed at LB, speed at LB, and more speed at LB. With Poz entrenched at MIKE, I like the draft value but feel this is a poor team schematic fit.


Dalton Freeman, Clemson. He's not my favorite OC remaining, but he's probably draftable. He would fit in Kelly's uptempo scheme, so this is a nice schematic fit and he'll provide solid depth for Kelce. Might have been able to get him as a Free Agent though.


Ryan Allen, Louisiana Tech. My 3rd favorite punter. But the difference between them is very small, so who cares. Always nice to get a starting caliber specialist in the 7th.


Josh Johnson, Purdue. Second on my remaining CB list. Good solid player. Can play in most schemes, but likely only a subpackage type. I like the value in the 7th round. I do think while he is a safer selection, there were definitely some higher upside guys out there with only a little more risk.
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All last night I was set to select Jeff Locke from UCLA. The more I thought about it the more just went with the guy that is a two time Ray Guy winner and did out punt Locke at the Senior Bowl. 52.4 average vs 45.4. Lions ranked dead last in the NFL in net punting. Getting a starter at a need position is more important to me then trying to get a sleeper.
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Arkie... Really like the Josh Johnson pick, It came down to him and Mills my last pick and took the safety since I already picked 2 CB's.
No way! I wanted Miles at 210 and Johnson at 212. I picked up Freeman at 210 because you took my guy. I guessed that Detroit at 211 wouldn't pick another CB because they already picked two CBs.
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Final NY Jets Draft

1-09 (09): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

2-08 (39): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A &M

3-10 (72): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse

4-09 (106): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

5-08 (141): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama

6-10 (178): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Zac Dysert QB, Miami of Ohio

7-09 (215): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Jake Stoneburner TE, Ohio St

I did not trade, I anticipate they will trade down as they have a lot of holes to fill.
Specific needs for the team. Pass Rush, LB, Safety, QB, RB, OT, TE...

Overall, I think I got good value and athleticism. I think this is a hungry draft. Moore was on sale in the 2nd, Stoneburner in the 7th.
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Oakland Raiders final draft class:

Round 1: Sharrif Floyd, DT Florida
Round 3: Terron Armstead, OT Ark Pine Bluff
Round 4: Cornelius Washington, DE Georgia
Round 5: DJ Hayden, CB Houston
Round 6: Marc Anthony, CB California
Round 6: Vinster Painter, OG Va Tech
Round 7: Rontez Mills, FS California U (PA)
Round 7: Mike Edwards, CB/KO return Hawaii

Oakland has so many needs, it was like throwing a piece of raw meat in a cage of hungry tigers. With needs everywhere, but most glaring in the trenches and the defensive backfield, We were able to get quality players to fill some serious holes on the roster.

Hopefully a number of undrafted free agents will still be available when the draft ends.
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Final NY Jets Draft

1-09 (09): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

2-08 (39): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A &M

3-10 (72): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse

4-09 (106): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M

5-08 (141): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama

6-10 (178): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Zac Dysert QB, Miami of Ohio

7-09 (215): NY Jets (MrPeepers)- Jake Stoneburner TE, Ohio St

I did not trade, I anticipate they will trade down as they have a lot of holes to fill.
Specific needs for the team. Pass Rush, LB, Safety, QB, RB, OT, TE...

Overall, I think I got good value and athleticism. I think this is a hungry draft. Moore was on sale in the 2nd, Stoneburner in the 7th.

This a great draft for the Jets. I'm lukewarm on the draft values for Shamarko Thomas, Nico Johnson, and Cordarelle Patterson.

I still like Keenan Allen more than Patterson, he's far more polished and explosive in his own right. But with Allen's injury holding him back from working out, I'm not sure any WR is worth a top 20 selection. It's only 11 selections off from where you took him, but that's a lot in the early first round. So, I'm a little sketchy on that selection, but if he hits, at least according to Mayock, you've got a superstud.

Shamarko Thomas is really just being hyped because of the Combine. He was ok at Syracuse but never great. In a deep Safety class with more proven playmakers at the position, I'm leery of workout warriors. It's a boom or bust pick.

Nico Johnson just does nothing to impress me whatsoever. He has a name due to playing at Alabama, but I have him as a 7th round talent.

On the flipside, I thought you got great value on all your other selections. You did a nice job for the most part of balancing need and draft value. I thought it was a pretty strong draft for what the Jets needed.
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Oakland Raiders final draft class:

Round 1: Sharrif Floyd, DT Florida
Round 3: Terron Armstead, OT Ark Pine Bluff
Round 4: Cornelius Washington, DE Georgia
Round 5: DJ Hayden, CB Houston
Round 6: Marc Anthony, CB California
Round 6: Vinster Painter, OG Va Tech
Round 7: Rontez Mills, FS California U (PA)
Round 7: Mike Edwards, CB/KO return Hawaii

Oakland has so many needs, it was like throwing a piece of raw meat in a cage of hungry tigers. With needs everywhere, but most glaring in the trenches and the defensive backfield, We were able to get quality players to fill some serious holes on the roster.

Hopefully a number of undrafted free agents will still be available when the draft ends.

This is probably going to turn out to be one of the better drafts.

Floyd appears to be a rock solid selection at a position of need. Armstead is a steal in the 3rd and should be a huge upgrade at one OT spot. Might take a year or two though. Washington is a boom or bust selection, but I like him with Oakland because he can either play DE, or he could be used at SAM where Allen likes to blitz early and often.

Hayden in the 5th is fine if his medical checks out. I remain sketchy because we haven't seen it before in the NFL, but Mediator is adament it will be fine. If so, this looks like a strong selection based on all the early round hype he has gotten as of late. I like Anthony fine in the 6th. That gives you two outside CBs to develop, a massive need area. Vinston Painter is solid enough in the 6th and should give you a good swing lineman that can play possibly every position. He might be able to start at OG. Miles is a solid flier in the 7th at a huge position of need. And I really like Mike Edwards as a slot CB, something you didn't have. Not to mention his return value since Ford can't stay healthy.

Very strong draft. Guaranteed the Raiders won't do this well in actuality.
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Lerentee McCray, Florida. Not a huge fan of this pick. He didn't really play at Florida very much the five years he was there. I guess the Vikings saw something they liked at his Pro Day. I think you could have got him in the Undrafted round.


Tourek Williams, FIU. The best DE remaining for me. Had a strong Pro Day to cover up a disappointing Combine. He was a fringe draftable prospect for me, but if I needed a DE, I would have no problem taking him in the 7th. He's depth.


Jake Stoneburner, Ohio State. Good value selection. He should go in the 6th round range. A move TE that wasn't used often enough at Ohio State. Has some athletic traits that suggest he can be a more productive pro.


Mike Mauti, Penn State. It's all about the injuries with Mauti. If he's healed up and stays healthy, this is a great selection. If not, he'll be out of the league. He's an interesting fit with Tennessee because they already have one massively injury prone MLB starting now. Maybe the two together can get through a season.


Steve Beauharnais, Rutgers. Very strong selection. Not my favorite ILB prospect left, but he's one of the better ones, and likely will be drafted a round before this. His lack of speed will be nicely hidden inside in the Chargers 34 defense. He should be a very productive thumper.


Luke Marquardt, Azusa Pacific. Got nothing on him. A true deep sleeper from the boonies.


Mike Edwards, Hawaii. My top remaining CB. I really like Edwards. I think he can play, and projects to a very solid slot CB with further technique work. I think he's the best kick returner in college from last year, absolutely electric. So, that's multiple value. Had off field concerns early at Tennessee, seems to have turned that around at Hawaii. Team captain. Also coming out early as a Junior after two stellar seasons. I think he goes in the 5th round. My favorite selection so far in the 7th Round, I would have drafted him if he had fell to me on principle alone.



Lots of solid selections as of late. The Undrafted Free Agent round is going to be lacking talent if this keeps up.
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OK. Looking over what happened in the last 24 hours and yikes. Lots of good picks. I'll pick in half hour or so.
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St. Louis Rams OM draft:

1. DJ Fluker, RT, Alabama
2. Jamar Taylor, FS, Boise State
2. Robert Woods, Slot WR, USC
3. Dallas Thomas, LG, Tennessee
4. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
4. Sean Porter, WLB, Texas A&M
5. AJ Klein, ILB, Iowa State
6. Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State
7. Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska

I have no doubt that this draft would be a huge improvement for that team. Especially now that they've brought in Jake Long.

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