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Old 03-24-2013, 09:32 AM   #101
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If we're wrong, we'll die in the first wave and won't be able to say I told you so, so I'm not sure where he is getting that this could possibly be our motivation.

I'm personally at a loss as to why alarmism isn't considered a bad thing at all times, and approached with the utmost skepticism, as it is usual based on shadowy, nebulous "truths" and "wait-and-sees" rather than hard evidence.
Fear and paranoia have become embedded in our society. School kids taught to hide under a desk during a nuclear attack was the image of the 50's.

From the 60's, it has been the collapse of the financial system and it's become a growth industry ever since.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:04 PM   #102
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“In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation,” he concluded. “There is no safe store of value” for the dollar. Alan Greenspan
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2001/04/9016/#dxGPTY0ZW9oJXVU0.99
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:08 PM   #103
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:28 PM   #104
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Deal done. Money will be stolen from the people.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cyp...-eu-2013-03-24
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:01 PM   #105
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And the elitist global banking cartel eugenists run up another trial ballon to see if the sheepal accept yet another attack on their freedom. "Oh it's just the rich they can afford it" they will say. What they fail to see is they are next. In the end nobody will escape the tyranny unless you wake the £uck up.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:15 AM   #106
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The Rothschilds just robbed anyone with over 100k in Cyprus banks for 40% of their total deposits.

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Man, the Dow is down over 60 points today. What a mess.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:41 PM   #109
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Just out of curiosity, since I'm not a banker, but if the banks collapsed and the Cyprus government collapsed, wouldn't the depositors lose all of their savings?
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W*gs hates Paul Craig Roberts because Roberts talks truth about Palestine. This drives W*gs insane.

He can't stand it when someone calls Israel for its violence, its crimes, its brutal persecution of the native people of Palestine.

For this reason he is driven to blindly ridicule PCR on the economics front.
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Banks In Europe May Now Seize Deposits To Cover Their Gambling Losses

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Just out of curiosity, since I'm not a banker, but if the banks collapsed and the Cyprus government collapsed, wouldn't the depositors lose all of their savings?
The only similar case study is Argentine banking crisis in 1999 to 2001. Their saving wouldn't just disappear but it's buying power for their currency would be worthless causing massive economic turmoil.
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Why gold is a great bargain today at 1605/ounce

Check out the chart below which shows the steady rise in the price of gold from 2001 to 2010 -- at which point the fed began manipulating the price to keep it from rising further.

Without that artificial cap - - you can extrapolate the slope to what gold would in all likelihood be at today -- somewhere conservatively above 2200/ounce.

The Fed's shorting of gold down to boost confidence in the dollar shows their desperation. Otherwise -- why thwart a bull market?

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Why gold is a great bargain today at 1605/ounce

Check out the chart below which shows the steady rise in the price of gold from 2001 to 2010 -- at which point the fed began manipulating the price to keep it from rising further.

Without that artificial cap - - you can extrapolate the slope to what gold would in all likelihood be at today -- somewhere conservatively above 2200/ounce.

The Fed's shorting of gold down to boost confidence in the dollar shows their desperation. Otherwise -- why thwart a bull market?

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That is exactly what is happening yet no one is questioning it.

There is only one reason the FED is shorting gold, it is as you say to prop up the failing dollar.
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Why gold is a great bargain today at 1605/ounce

Check out the chart below which shows the steady rise in the price of gold from 2001 to 2010 -- at which point the fed began manipulating the price to keep it from rising further.

Without that artificial cap - - you can extrapolate the slope to what gold would in all likelihood be at today -- somewhere conservatively above 2200/ounce.

The Fed's shorting of gold down to boost confidence in the dollar shows their desperation. Otherwise -- why thwart a bull market?

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Ok, Gaffney, how about a link to this story?
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:51 PM   #116
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Just out of curiosity, since I'm not a banker, but if the banks collapsed and the Cyprus government collapsed, wouldn't the depositors lose all of their savings?
You're hitting on the reality of this bailout. That is an 'offshore bank' and as anyone offshore understands, there is no insurance if a bank collapses.

This notion that depositors are being 'taxed' is absurd. If that were a US bank, no accounts above the FDIC insured amount would be covered and those depositors would likely lose all.

Because Cyprus is in the EuroZone, they are getting a bailout, and a damn generous one for the depositors. This might be the first time an offshore bank has been bailed out, the Russians should be on their knees gratefully accepting the 60% they will walk away with.
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Maybe I'm old school but I put my money in a bank for only one reason safe keeping, if they were to take 40% to pay off their bad investments I would not consider that safe keeping

Hey it's not like I'm investing with them and would see a return on my money
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Maybe I'm old school but I put my money in a bank for only one reason safe keeping, if they were to take 40% to pay off their bad investments I would not consider that safe keeping

Hey it's not like I'm investing with them and would see a return on my money
If you put your money in a European bank, your deposits are insured to 100k Euros (US, $250k).

If you put it in an 'offshore bank' looking for high returns (Cyprus) you have no insurance.....excepting that because Cyprus is in the EuroZone, they were able to get a bailout and bank deposits were insured to 100k.

If that were a Cayman or Bahamian bank, depositors would lose all.
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Ok, Gaffney, how about a link to this story?
Hahahaha!

That's my analysis.

(The numbers do not lie.)
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That's my analysis.
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Hahahaha!

That's my analysis.

(The numbers do not lie.)
Both you AND your numbers lie.
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Both you AND your numbers lie.
hahahaha...

The numbers can be confirmed by anyone with one Google search.

You really are a fool.

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If you put your money in a European bank, your deposits are insured to 100k Euros (US, $250k).

If you put it in an 'offshore bank' looking for high returns (Cyprus) you have no insurance.....excepting that because Cyprus is in the EuroZone, they were able to get a bailout and bank deposits were insured to 100k.

If that were a Cayman or Bahamian bank, depositors would lose all.
What you fail to address is why the banks are in trouble in the first place. They are doing nothing short of gambling in the derivative market which would be illegal if the banksters had not strong armed governments to remove controls such the Glass Steagall Act.
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What you fail to address is why the banks are in trouble in the first place. They are doing nothing short of gambling in the derivative market which would be illegal if the banksters had not strong armed governments to remove controls such the Glass Steagall Act.
Offshore banking has ALWAYS been risky.
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hahahaha...

The numbers can be confirmed by anyone with one Google search.

You really are a fool.

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You lie through your teeth, and admit it....."the fed is shorting gold".... and I'm the fool??

Get a grip.
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